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Police Chief In Trayvon Martin Case FIRED. Agree or Not?

ServantOfAllah 2012/06/21 10:54:56
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Sanford, Fla., has fired Bill Lee, the police chief who initially oversaw the controversial investigation into a neighborhood watch captain's fatal shooting of a 17-year-old, Trayvon Martin. The initial lack of an arrest drove widespread protests and propelled the case into national headlines.

"After much thoughtful discussion and deep consideration for the issues facing the city of Sanford, I have determined the police chief needs to have the trust and respect of the elected officials and the confidence of the entire community," Sanford City Manager Norton Bonaparte was quoted saying in the city's statement. "We need to move forward with a police chief that all the citizens of Sanford can support. I have come to this decision in light of the escalating divisiveness that has taken hold of the city." See full story at
http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-case-police-chief-bill-l...

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  • Jeremiah 2012/06/21 17:17:59
    I agree. Chief Bill Lee had to be fired!
    Jeremiah
    +12
    No surprise. His department did a disastrously poor job of investigating that case. It showed a complete lack of training and discipline.

    The DA will probably be next.

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  • john Kills 2012/06/21 13:24:49
    Undecided
    john Kills
    +5
    Not enough evidence of wrong doing. They want to prosecute zimmerman no matter what.
  • whitewu... john Kills 2012/06/21 14:14:55
  • Jeremiah whitewu... 2012/06/21 17:25:46
    Jeremiah
    +2
    I wondered how long it would take for the R word to come up.
  • john Kills whitewu... 2012/06/21 18:57:48
    john Kills
    +1
    I didn't say a thing that was racist. You are an idiot.
  • whitewu... john Kills 2012/06/22 13:27:19
  • john Kills whitewu... 2012/06/22 23:02:59
    john Kills
    +1
    idon't think race played any part in this but, even if it did where the hell ndo you get off calling me a racist? your comments prove that you are for a fact, a racist.
  • ProudProgressive 2012/06/21 12:54:10 (edited)
    I agree. Chief Bill Lee had to be fired!
    ProudProgressive
    +7
    Engaging in a coverup to protect an "alleged" murderer is hardly what anyone should expect from a law enforcement officer.
  • whitewu... ProudPr... 2012/06/21 14:15:28
  • ProudPr... whitewu... 2012/06/21 14:17:27
    ProudProgressive
    +1
    Sigh .... as you wish. See the edit.
  • Wild Dog ProudPr... 2012/06/21 16:48:20 (edited)
    Wild Dog
    +1
    it's good you used the term "alleged" the taking of a life is serious ,indeed ,but there was a trial ,and not a good one put on by "the court of public opinion" ,which isn't the law. no, they showed pics of Zimmermans wounds, and paramedics gave an asessment too, but too many railed against this ,before any trial was even talked about .The law was explicit about standing you're ground ,but to me self defense is #1 in nay case .It's Zimmerman's big mouth thayt could be his biggest problem now.
  • Jeremiah Wild Dog 2012/06/21 17:26:48
    Jeremiah
    +3
    There was a trial? When did that happen?
  • Wild Dog Jeremiah 2012/06/21 19:33:00
    Wild Dog
    +1
    Didn't you see the marchers, all over the country? I'm talking about the trial of public opinion like others that have happened. No ,that's what I meant ,and no one is guilty until he's tried before a jury of his peers .If he's aquitted ,which could possibly happen, just watch ,and see them go wild over that.
  • Jeremiah Wild Dog 2012/06/21 22:51:30
    Jeremiah
    +3
    Our judicial system does not operate on public opinion.
  • carri b... Jeremiah 2012/06/25 15:40:28
    carri byers
    WHAT!!! Gee, I wish that were true. Jeremiah, public opinion has always played a part in court outcomes - if you don't know that, you've got your head in the sand.
  • Jeremiah carri b... 2012/06/25 19:01:12
    Jeremiah
    If that were true, Citizens United would not have happened. Neither would Brown v Board in 1954, or the district court ruling that blocked Prop 8 in California.
  • carri b... Jeremiah 2012/06/25 21:29:57
    carri byers
    All political manifestations. Just because political pressure has played a part in some decisions does not mean it always does. It certainly did in this decision.
  • Jeremiah carri b... 2012/06/26 00:36:00 (edited)
    Jeremiah
    How do you know? Are you privy to the mind of the city manager?

    The clamor had died down by the time the chief was terminated. What pressure are you talking about?
  • carri b... Jeremiah 2012/06/26 15:56:31
    carri byers
    Since the clamor has yet to die down, your arguement is non-sequitor.
  • Jeremiah carri b... 2012/06/26 18:00:05
    Jeremiah
    Is it? What is going on in the streets of Sanford today?
  • carri b... Jeremiah 2012/06/26 20:36:18
    carri byers
    Well, let's see - Zimmerman passed a lie detector test about the nigh Treyvon was shot:

    Tester: "Did you confront the guy you shot?" Zimmerman: "No."
    Tester: "Were you in fear for your life, when you shot the guy?" Zimmerman: "Yes."
    Officials determined that the neighborhood watch volunteer "told substantially the complete truth in regards to this examination," the report said.

    The report was part of more audio and video recordings and police documents released by the prosecutor's office.

    Last week, Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara released some of the same audio and video recordings and written statements that his client gave police after the shooting.

    Zimmerman says Trayvon knocked him to the ground with a punch to the nose, then repeatedly banged his head into the pavement. He told police he shot Trayvon after the teen went for Zimmerman's gun that was holstered in his hip"

    Obviously the story has not died, nor have the protests across the nation.

    .
  • Jeremiah carri b... 2012/06/26 21:38:22
    Jeremiah
    So there are people demonstrating in the streets? That will come as a surprise to the Sanford police department.

    Yes, we have heard Zimmerman's version of the story. Unfortunately, we won't be hearing Trayvon's version, except for the tape of his conversation with his girlfriend on her cell phone while Zimmermann was accosting him.

    Polygraph tests are not admissible in court, for an obvious reason. They are unreliable. Someday they will come up with one that can be verified as accurate, but that day has not yet arrived.
  • carri b... Jeremiah 2012/06/27 17:41:41
    carri byers
    OK Jeremiah - you have a nice life.
  • Jeremiah carri b... 2012/06/27 17:49:22
    Jeremiah
    You too, friend.
  • Warren ... whitewu... 2012/06/21 15:24:00
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    +3
    There would never have been a trial if the police had succeeded in their criminal cover up. That's the whole point. This isn't about the guilt or innocence of Zimmerman, this is about due process.
  • jubil8 ... ProudPr... 2012/06/21 15:42:39 (edited)
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    It was the county prosecutor (State's Attorney?) who said not to arrest Zimm. I don't think the Chief of Police could go against that. As far as the actions of the PD after Zimm was released, do you have any info? I know nothing about what happened in Sanford after Trayvon was killed until his parents got the ball rolling a couple of weeks later.
  • mrdog 2012/06/21 12:07:50
    Undecided
    mrdog
    +4
    don't know the facts around his dismissal.... but I have seen a more current pic of Martin before the incident.... bad dude...bark
  • Jeremiah mrdog 2012/06/21 17:27:39
    Jeremiah
    +2
    Why, because he is black?
  • mrdog Jeremiah 2012/06/21 18:11:32
    mrdog
    Current pic....not childhood pic....what wrong with that request.... get a grip...bark
  • Singerar mrdog 2012/06/21 20:09:07
    Singerar
    +1
    I've seen current pics too. Looks like a typical teenager. Plus, the boy never did anything bad. The suspension he got from school was for being TARDY several times. God forbid..
  • Jeremiah Singerar 2012/06/21 22:53:24
    Jeremiah
    +2
    Not exactly a thug, was he?
  • carri b... Jeremiah 2012/06/25 15:50:01
    carri byers
    On his way to being one with a TEN DAY suspension (I don't care where you are or what school you attend, a 10 day suspension is serious stuff) and being caught with a backpack of jewelry that was not his and break-in tools and having been caught spray painting lockers with WTF...he may not have been a thug yet, but he was no innocent. The media is painting Zimmerman as the thug and Treyvon as a 12 year old child in an attempt to keep the black community stirred up and their rating and sales high - it's that simple.
  • Jeremiah carri b... 2012/06/25 19:04:19
    Jeremiah
    +1
    The fact remains that Zimmerman has an arrest record, while Trayvon did not. Zimmerman has a record of violent behavior, while Trayvon did not. Finally, Trayvon is dead while his killer is being portrayed as a hero of the right.

    Those are simple facts, and ratings and sales have nothing to do with it.
  • carri b... Jeremiah 2012/06/25 21:33:20
    carri byers
    Zimmerman is hardly being portrayed as a HERO. Give me a break. I am not defending him on this blog, I am simply offering other information that shows that from the beginning he was painted with a (excuse the pun) black brush while pictures of a 12 year Treyvon were used to paint him (again excuse the pun) lilly white. This has been spun by the spin-misters and all I've been saying is let the courts decide and stop put Zimmerman in front of the firing squad of public opinion before all the facts have been divulged.
  • Jeremiah carri b... 2012/06/26 00:40:42
    Jeremiah
    +1
    Perhaps you don't consider him a hero, but many on this site do, and I have no problem with that. This is a forum for opinions, and if you object to the opinions of others you are on the wrong site. I might disagree with you, but I respect your right to your opinion.
  • carri b... Jeremiah 2012/06/26 15:57:46
    carri byers
    As I respect your right to hold incorrect opinions :o). You kept it civil and I appreciate that.
  • Jeremiah carri b... 2012/06/26 18:02:30
    Jeremiah
    I always try to keep it civil, and I appreciate your efforts to do the same.

    We continue to disagree on which opinions are correct. Perhaps it is time for all of us to step back and allow the legal system to take its course.
  • carri b... Jeremiah 2012/06/26 20:36:44
    carri byers
    +1
    Agreed. Thank you.
  • carri b... Singerar 2012/06/25 15:46:09 (edited)
    carri byers
    You climb all over me for posting a picture that was not Treyvon (which I have edited and revised and admitted to) but you keep posting this crap about a suspension for being tardy while ignoring the reports of a bag of jewelry and break-in tools and his graffiti and the empty bag of pot. Why try to paint Treyvon so innocent if all you're interested in is justice? He had some problems - just like Zimmerman had some problems. Treyvon's problems doesn't mean he deserved to die and Zimmerman's problems doesn't mean he was a racist vigilante! Good grief - step back and take a breath and LET THE COURTS DECIDE THIS CASE!
  • Jeremiah mrdog 2012/06/21 22:52:46
    Jeremiah
    +2
    What possible difference could it make which picture was used?
  • Singerar mrdog 2012/06/21 21:00:48
    Singerar
    +2
    Was it this picture? Jayceon Terrell Taylor

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