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Police Chief In Trayvon Martin Case FIRED. Agree or Not?

ServantOfAllah 2012/06/21 10:54:56
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Sanford, Fla., has fired Bill Lee, the police chief who initially oversaw the controversial investigation into a neighborhood watch captain's fatal shooting of a 17-year-old, Trayvon Martin. The initial lack of an arrest drove widespread protests and propelled the case into national headlines.

"After much thoughtful discussion and deep consideration for the issues facing the city of Sanford, I have determined the police chief needs to have the trust and respect of the elected officials and the confidence of the entire community," Sanford City Manager Norton Bonaparte was quoted saying in the city's statement. "We need to move forward with a police chief that all the citizens of Sanford can support. I have come to this decision in light of the escalating divisiveness that has taken hold of the city." See full story at
http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-case-police-chief-bill-l...

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  • Jeremiah 2012/06/21 17:17:59
    I agree. Chief Bill Lee had to be fired!
    Jeremiah
    +12
    No surprise. His department did a disastrously poor job of investigating that case. It showed a complete lack of training and discipline.

    The DA will probably be next.

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  • Jackie ... Jeremiah 2012/06/21 18:20:13
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    Yes, and what - this is politically driven and they want to avoid them, nothing more than that.
  • Jeremiah Jackie ... 2012/06/21 22:31:50
    Jeremiah
    +5
    The city manager is not a politician, and is shielded from political pressures by his or her contract.
  • Jackie ... Jeremiah 2012/06/21 22:34:00
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    And you think they are not political?? Hey, I have this bridge..............
  • Jeremiah Jackie ... 2012/06/21 22:42:03
    Jeremiah
    +5
    Their contracts protect them from being political. Their job is to manage, not to shake hands and kiss babies.
  • Jackie ... Jeremiah 2012/06/21 23:01:07
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    But they are political, extremely so and they spend a great deal of time hand shaking - Hell, I worked for a city and know that every management position is political with contracts, especially the city manager. Show me a non-political city manager and I will show you someone out of work. It is the nature of the beast - now are they out campaigning for a candidate, no. You best believe they are indeed warming up to the predicted winner big time - they are insiders watching the insider polling data on everything including the way the wind is blowing on any city issue.

    Later
  • Jeremiah Jackie ... 2012/06/22 16:04:16
    Jeremiah
    +3
    I too have worked with city governments, and I never knew a city manager who acted like a politician, or was permitted to campaign for any candidate. You will pardon my skepticism of your version.
  • Jackie ... Jeremiah 2012/06/22 16:21:05
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    Wait, I never said campaign - I said no they do not. I have never known one or any assistant city manager that did not act like a politician; it is the only way to survive.
  • Jeremiah Jackie ... 2012/06/22 22:06:33
    Jeremiah
    +3
    I guess you have not known as many as I have.
  • harley oldman 2012/06/21 16:49:20
    I disagree. Chief Bill Lee should NOT have been fired!
    harley oldman
    Just another case of the Inmates running the Asylum...He should told all the big mouth fools that were trying the case before the facts were in to go F... themselves...
  • Jeremiah harley ... 2012/06/21 17:20:05
    Jeremiah
    +5
    He probably wants to land a job in another jurisdiction, so he isn't likely to talk to the city manager like that.
  • harley ... Jeremiah 2012/06/21 17:44:24
    harley oldman
    +1
    Well...I have to agree with your logic..........But, I guess I would never qualify for a public service job.
  • Jeremiah harley ... 2012/06/21 22:39:37
    Jeremiah
    +5
    The same applies in the business world. If you want a good reference for a new job, you probably want to be civil with your current boss.
  • harley ... Jeremiah 2012/06/22 14:24:56
    harley oldman
    +1
    Yep...all true..... But, I have look ay myself in the mirrow and theres some things I can`t do.
  • Jeremiah harley ... 2012/06/22 16:05:14
    Jeremiah
    +3
    As long as you liked what you saw.
  • harley ... Jeremiah 2012/06/23 13:28:27
    harley oldman
    +1
    I have too....It ain`t gonna get no better....!
  • Jeremiah harley ... 2012/06/23 19:55:18
    Jeremiah
    +2
    Probably not, unless you believe in botox or surgery. ;-)
  • Wild Dog 2012/06/21 16:38:49
    I disagree. Chief Bill Lee should NOT have been fired!
    Wild Dog
    They used himas a scapegoat .the photos of Zimmerman showed cuts/abrasions on the back of his head. Obviously ,he didn't do that ,and the mayor caved to save his own two bit job.
  • Jeremiah Wild Dog 2012/06/21 17:20:54
    Jeremiah
    +5
    The city manager fired him. It is not an elected position, so he is not sensitive to politics.
  • Wild Dog Jeremiah 2012/06/21 19:27:58 (edited)
    Wild Dog
    It may not have been political, but seeing all the people marching has put this as conviction before trial . I support free speech ,and assembly ,as we're guaranteed that ,but also the fact one is innocent until found guilty by a jury of his peers.There's no evidence other than the pics of Zimmermans wounds ,and I'm sure the tial will be a doozy. One ,the Fla law lallows concealed carry ,and it has that "stand your ground" law on the books. I do believe we all should be able to protect ourselves when confronted with possibly deadly force ,and as stipulated,Fla law says that's possibly what happened .No ,I have no want to pass judgement,the law will do that ,and if guilty,he will go to prison. This was a scapegoat deal ,even if the guy isn't elected ,some ones telling him to do the cut.
  • Jeremiah Wild Dog 2012/06/21 22:46:38
    Jeremiah
    +4
    The prosecutor and the courts are immune to political pressures, so let us see how this case plays out.

    Personally I don't see how the "stand your ground" law applies, since Zimmerman initiated the contact by getting out of his vehicle and confronting an unarmed teen. Trayvon was the one who felt threatened, and he reacted the only way he knew how.
  • Wild Dog Jeremiah 2012/06/22 13:04:39
    Wild Dog
    You would want to thin political pressur isn't involved ,but it is .Election year says it all ,there's more behind the scenes we don't see ,and it's how politics works. This is coming from higher sources ,being swayed by the protests the followed this action .as the story goes ,he did leave his vehicle ,followed the kid, while on the phone with police .This alleged attack occured as he was going back to his vehicle, after losing sight of the kid ,and said he was jumped from behind ,and ended up on the ground with his head being smashed into the sidewalk ,and a facial beating.stand your ground is a stupid name for a law ,but it allows one to take defensive action if they're attacke. Like I said ,taking a life is not to be taken lightly ,and the guy has a big mouth that could be his undoing. the court will decide who's right. If he's aquitted ,I'm sure there'll be an uproar from those with their own point of view.
  • Jeremiah Wild Dog 2012/06/22 16:07:12
    Jeremiah
    +3
    We don't know if any of that is true. We have only Zimmerman's word for it, except for the phone conversations, and he has not been very credible so far.
  • Wild Dog Jeremiah 2012/06/22 17:30:06
    Wild Dog
    No other people were present at the exact moment, and it is his word. The pictures of his ijuries do exist ,the laws were in his favor. Now if he can keep his mouth shut, he may have a chance.
  • Jeremiah Wild Dog 2012/06/22 22:09:47
    Jeremiah
    +3
    Pictures taken the day after the murder, maybe, but those taken immediately afterward showed none of the injuries that suddenly appeared the next day.

    He has said too much already, and his attorney cringes every time he opens his mouth.
  • Wild Dog Jeremiah 2012/06/22 22:12:28
    Wild Dog
    Well, the courts will get the chance to decide these things .The paramedics that were on the scene noted his injuries at the time of attendance.
  • Singerar Wild Dog 2012/06/23 07:49:34
    Singerar
    +2
    But the Paramedics did not take pictures of the back of his head that night. The photos surface several days later from a private source.
  • Wild Dog Singerar 2012/06/23 13:22:42
    Wild Dog
    +2
    Like I said ,this is a matter the courts will decide ,and the jury will make the decisions on evidence collected.We have no say in the matter legally.
  • Jeremiah Wild Dog 2012/06/23 19:56:57
    Jeremiah
    +1
    First true thing you have said.
  • Wild Dog Jeremiah 2012/06/24 11:22:59
    Wild Dog
    +1
    First true thing? I'm just speaking realistically ,as like I said, many went to marching in the streets screaming for his head. That's akin to the old mob lynching actions. No, I never stated he was innocent ,I just said that he was allowed to carry a wearon, und apperantly he felt he had to use it..Just like the Florida woman so many weere riled up when she was aquitted by a jury for the dieath of her daughter, and the rage that followed.Will this happen again?
  • Jeremiah Wild Dog 2012/06/24 23:49:59
    Jeremiah
    +1
    Let's hope not.
  • Wild Dog Jeremiah 2012/06/25 16:26:11
    Wild Dog
    As usual ,the whells of justice grind slowly, but we'll see results in the end.
  • Jeremiah Wild Dog 2012/06/25 18:52:22
    Jeremiah
    There will be a conviction, you'll see.
  • Wild Dog Jeremiah 2012/06/27 23:10:49
    Wild Dog
    Tell you what ,I won't complain if there is one ,if you don't complain if there isn't one. It's all up to Florida courts ,but the prosecutors don't seem too hot ,but it's in their hands ,not ours.
  • Wild Dog Wild Dog 2012/06/27 23:11:44
    Wild Dog
    PS, you seem to be in the court of public opinion ,not the legal one.
  • Jeremiah Wild Dog 2012/06/28 00:07:47
    Jeremiah
    Sounds good.
  • Jeremiah Wild Dog 2012/06/23 19:56:11
    Jeremiah
    +1
    Really? Where did you see that? Please provide a link.
  • Wild Dog Jeremiah 2012/06/24 11:26:06
    Wild Dog
    What,the paramedics report? It was in the newspaper, and medical assistance was rendered at the scene as usually done. No link, I stay with as reliable reports as I can. I don't take a lot in account reading hashed over stories ,and biassed accounts ,as I believe we all need to be presented properly ,not by someones mindset.
  • Jeremiah Wild Dog 2012/06/24 23:52:51
    Jeremiah
    Zimmerman was seen on tape a couple of hours after the shooting, and there was no indication of injuries to his nose or to the back of his head. The police did not take his clothing, so we will never know if they were bloody. A broken nose usually results in copious blood loss. They didn't take his gun, so we don't even know if it was the weapon that killed Trayvon Martin.
  • Wild Dog Jeremiah 2012/06/25 16:28:21
    Wild Dog
    Ballistics on the weapon will be the determining factor.The pictures of him going into the police station don't show much .
  • Jeremiah Wild Dog 2012/06/25 18:55:16
    Jeremiah
    They didn't impound the weapon the night of the murder. How were they supposed to do any testing on it?

    The tape of him going into the police station shows a man without a broken nose, without lacerations on the back of his head, and with very little blood on his clothing. I don't know if you have ever broken your nose, but you lose a lot of blood when you do. His clothing would have been soaked with red.

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