People didn't expect donations to the Susan G. Komen foundation to fund a pro-abortion activist organization.
If I wanted to donate to Planned Parenthood, I would....
Planned Parenthood Loses Breast Exam Funding: Understandable or Awful?
SodaHead News
2012/02/01 21:00:00
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Susan G. Komen for the Cure, the largest breast cancer organization in the country, has cut funding from Planned Parenthood, a non-profit reproductive health service provider that has become controversial for supporting and aiding abortions. According to Komen, the cuts are not meant to oppose abortion, but rather to enforce a new policy that prohibits offering grants to "organizations that are under investigation." Because Rep. Cliff Stearns is investigating how Planned Parenthood funds abortions, that disqualifies them.
However, proponents are upset because the majority of Komen's funding went toward breast health screenings and exams -- not abortions. According to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, they've funded 170,000 breast examinations and 6,400 mammogram referrals through Planned Parenthood. Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, said, "Our greatest desire is for Komen to reconsider this policy and recommit to the partnership on which so many women count."

However, proponents are upset because the majority of Komen's funding went toward breast health screenings and exams -- not abortions. According to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, they've funded 170,000 breast examinations and 6,400 mammogram referrals through Planned Parenthood. Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, said, "Our greatest desire is for Komen to reconsider this policy and recommit to the partnership on which so many women count."

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Fef 2012/02/01 21:56:29Understandable






















A systematic review of medical trials have shown no evidence that these type of clinical examinations reduce cancer mortality. http://summaries.cochrane.org...
But you don't have to take my word for it, I linked to the summery of the Cochrane Collaboration's analysis (a systematic review is at the top of the evidence-based medicine hierarchy). The Cochrane Collaboration is among the most prestigious organization who performs these reviews.
http://www.uspreventiveservic...
http://www.lib.ucdavis.edu/de...
I not trying to convince people not to be examined, that is between them and their doctor who knows their circumstances. My point is that if you are going to be making serious charges that people are going to die because of the "right wing"'s influence on this policy, you should have evidence to support your case. As you will note from the ucdavis EBM link above, expert opinion from a fellow doctor is the LOWEST level of evidence on the Oxford EBM pyramid.
But you don't have to take my word for it, I linked to the summery of the Cochrane Collaboration's analysis (a systematic review is at the top of the evidence-based medicine hierarchy). The Cochrane Collaboration is among the most prestigious organization who performs these reviews.
http://www.uspreventiveservic...
http://www.lib.ucdavis.edu/de...
I not trying to convince people not to be examined, that is between them and their doctor who knows their circumstances. My point is that if you are going to be making serious charges that people are going to die because of the "right wing"'s influence on this policy, you should have evidence to support your case. As you will note from the ucdavis EBM link above, expert opinion from a fellow doctor is the LOWEST level of evidence on the Oxford EBM pyramid.
http://www.fda.gov/Radiation-...
Therefore, I was talking about manual breast exams, which they do offer, and which have shown no ability to reduce breast cancer deaths or overall mortality. (see the links in blue above.) So assuming people would have died from this, as ProudProgressive and luvguins do takes a leap of faith, it is not a conclusion that can be drawn from scientific evidence.
Also, you have it backwards; this is the opposite of the flat earth myth, the established practice is to do manual breast exams, the recent evidence is pointing the other way. To quote the Harvard Medical School newsletter, "The panel reviewed clinical studies published since guidelines were last updated, in 2002, and it applied new methods for analyzing all the data. It concluded that the use of mammography, clinical breast exam, and breast self-exam should be scaled back." http://www.health.harvard.edu...
To quote from the Mayo Clinic Health information page: "Breast exams, once thought essential for early breast cancer detection, are now considered optional. While screening mammograms have been proved to save lives, there's no evidence that breast exams can do this."
http://www.mayoclinic.com/hea...
Planned Parenthood only provides breast exams, they do not perform mammograms, they can only refer. http://www.washingtonpost.com...
Also, you have it backwards; this is the opposite of the flat earth myth, the established practice is to do manual breast exams, the recent evidence is pointing the other way. To quote the Harvard Medical School newsletter, "The panel reviewed clinical studies published since guidelines were last updated, in 2002, and it applied new methods for analyzing all the data. It concluded that the use of mammography, clinical breast exam, and breast self-exam should be scaled back." http://www.health.harvard.edu...
To quote from the Mayo Clinic Health information page: "Breast exams, once thought essential for early breast cancer detection, are now considered optional. While screening mammograms have been proved to save lives, there's no evidence that breast exams can do this."
http://www.mayoclinic.com/hea...
Planned Parenthood only provides breast exams, they do not perform mammograms, they can only refer. http://www.washingtonpost.com...
That is not how evidenced based medicine works. The key word is "evidence". You have to look at the available scientific evidence, not people's opinion. Because very few docs have experience researching the efficacy of manual breast exams, all they know is what they heard in med school, guesses from theirs and their colleagues anecdotal experiences, and what what they've read in journals such as the one that published the study I linked to in my first reply. Historically, relying on doctors' judgement rather than evidence gave us treatments like blood-letting, application of animal feces, and refusal to wash hands prior to surgery/ delivering babies, so that is why there is such a strong push for evidenced-based practices in modern medicine.
And how on earth is the fact that someone is a cardiologist or neurologist supposed to give weight to their opinions about breast exams? You are saying a heart specialist, a brain specialist, and a general practitioner should know more about the effects of breast exams than the public health specialists, biostaticians, associate professor of ob/gyn, etc who reviewed EVERY availab...
That is not how evidenced based medicine works. The key word is "evidence". You have to look at the available scientific evidence, not people's opinion. Because very few docs have experience researching the efficacy of manual breast exams, all they know is what they heard in med school, guesses from theirs and their colleagues anecdotal experiences, and what what they've read in journals such as the one that published the study I linked to in my first reply. Historically, relying on doctors' judgement rather than evidence gave us treatments like blood-letting, application of animal feces, and refusal to wash hands prior to surgery/ delivering babies, so that is why there is such a strong push for evidenced-based practices in modern medicine.
And how on earth is the fact that someone is a cardiologist or neurologist supposed to give weight to their opinions about breast exams? You are saying a heart specialist, a brain specialist, and a general practitioner should know more about the effects of breast exams than the public health specialists, biostaticians, associate professor of ob/gyn, etc who reviewed EVERY available study on the matter?
Also, how does that fact that someone has two X chromosomes magically give them scientific evidence? That assumption was wrong anyway, in fact a majority of members of the USPSTF who participated in authoring the guidelines are women.
"Women over 35 need to have a yearly mammogram as well."
The USPSTF review found that except for high risk women (Gail Model more than 1.7%), it is not until the age of 50 that the amount of lives saved by breast cancer detection due to mammography is shown to be greater than the dangers (risks of unnecessary procedures and cancer caused by accumulated radiation exposure due to the tests.) So they recommend against uniform routine testing before age of 50, prior to that it needs to be a decision based on the individual, so you don't end up killing more low risk people than you save.
http://www.uspreventiveservic... (see supporting articles)
http://www.uspreventiveservic...
You mean write a paragraph on why a professor of gynecology and her colleagues who have published research on the topic know more about women's health than your cardiologist? I already did ^
The level of scientific literacy among the general population in this country is atrocious
If Planned Parenthood, the biggest abortion mill in the country wants money they should raise it on their own.
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Alternatives to Abortion
Despite all their talk about "choice," those at abortion clinics who counsel women on their options often act as if abortion is a woman’s only realistic alternative. This simply isn’t so.
Throughout the United States, there are nearly 3,000 Crisis Pregnancy Centers staffed by volunteers ready to provide real help to women facing unplanned or untimely pregnancies. In addition to providing pregnancy tests and counseling, these centers often offer a full range of services, helping women obtain housing, maternity and baby clothes, baby equipment, pre- and post-natal medical care, legal assistance and financial support, information about adoption, and even advice on how a woman in school can continue her education. Offering real and tangible assistance, these centers have helped thousands of women to realize that they didn’t have to choose between their own lives and the lives of their unborn babies.
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1. Oppositional individuals aren't always worth dealing with/responding to.
2. We need to work harder on educating folks about sex, abortion, protection, and Planned Parenthood so that less people will share ridiculous views like this.
3. If long messages aren't getting through to people, then perhaps shorter (and catchier) ones will be more effective. (: