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Piers Morgan: Bible 'Inherently Flawed,' Needs to Be 'Amended'. What do you say?

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  • Transquesta 2012/12/30 07:59:54 (edited)
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    Transquesta
    +9
    Morgan wouldn't be the first individual to comment on that of which he knows nothing, and he won't be the last.

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  • boognish989 2013/02/20 21:20:49
    Morgan can say whatever...
    boognish989
    the bible doesn't need to be ammended, it just needs to be taken for what it is; ancient mythology, and an attempt by ancient people to explain the universe and control people.
  • Fanghur 2013/02/20 20:25:44
    Morgan can say whatever...
    Fanghur
    Just getting rid of Leviticus and Deuteronomy would make the Bible significantly better and more moral.
  • MissLeviathan 2013/02/03 20:03:00
    Morgan can say whatever...
    MissLeviathan
    +1
    He has a point.
  • Tim 2013/01/06 20:12:59
    Morgan need to shut up...
    Tim
    He need to shut up, yo.
  • Fanghur Tim 2013/02/20 21:28:24
    Fanghur
    Really? So murder, infanticide, genocide, slavery, bigotry, homophobia, rape, etc. are all good things then?
  • GameGuy92 2013/01/05 20:51:38
    Morgan can say whatever...
    GameGuy92
    +1
    Only stating that the dude, right or wrong, can have his own opinion... kind of an obvious thing for me to say but still... if you support him, great, if you hate him keep it to yourself... cause technically, if he were the only dude standing by his opinion then that is his right to do so and he shouldnt get bashed for doing so. Majority is NOT always right (ex. Hitler).... If you woke up tomorrow, and you were the only Christian left on Earth who whole heartedly believed in your God, you'd absolutely hate to walk down the street bearing a cross that no one else believes and bashes you for.
  • Thank you but no... 2013/01/05 16:38:21
    Morgan can say whatever...
    Thank you but no...
    +2
    Yes he's an idiot, no, the Bibull does NOT need "amending", it simply needs to be properly classified as "Fiction".
  • Sweet-N-Sour 2013/01/03 19:59:21
    Morgan need to shut up...
    Sweet-N-Sour
    +1
    If we are all so stupid, why does he want to be here? Maybe he should take his sanctimonious ass somewhere more to his liking. China maybe. Their "Constitution" is whatever they say it is from week to week and they just kill people stupid enough to read the Bible. They don't even bother trying to "amend" it.
  • boognis... Sweet-N... 2013/02/20 21:28:05
    boognish989
    'christian' countries used to kill people for reading the bible or owning one in their own language. the reason? reading the bible is the first step towards rejecting it. if more 'christians' actually read the bible instead of treating it like a licensing agreement where they just 'accept', there'd be far fewer 'christians'.
  • Jim 2013/01/02 16:40:51
    Morgan need to shut up...
    Jim
    +2
    That idiot talks just to hear himself talk. Everything he says is unnecessary.
  • Matt 2013/01/02 00:42:13
    Undecided
    Matt
  • La Bef 2013/01/01 23:38:30 (edited)
    Morgan can say whatever...
    La Bef
    +1
    Let him keep talking...he is showing that "he" is inherently flawed and needs someone's boot to meet his disgusting little arse! He comes into MY house and critizes it? Get the F*** out of here! Find a place you like and stay the hell there.
  • Wohuz 2013/01/01 13:27:44
    Undecided
    Wohuz
    +1
    Well the Bible was written by men, men are fallible. So it's no surprise that the Bible is also fallible. Plus, the current Bible was put together by Constantine. Why should I care what books he liked and in what order he liked them in?
  • Thank y... Wohuz 2013/01/05 16:40:54
    Thank you but no...
    Actually, Constantine had almost NOTHING to do with the canonical bible. He died long before it was decided what should be in it, and that list of books was made around 500 AD.
  • Wohuz Thank y... 2013/01/06 10:26:54
    Wohuz
    You seriously can't say that the First Council of Nicaea and the 50 Bibles commissioned by Constantine didn't have an effect on biblical canon.
  • Thank y... Wohuz 2013/01/07 09:45:53
    Thank you but no...
    Constantine only insisted that the Bishops get on with it and make up their minds. He had no input into the content.
  • Wohuz Thank y... 2013/01/07 09:49:30
    Wohuz
    Constantine's 50 Bibles was the foundation for the canon of the New Testament. They were also inspected by him and a final version was chosen by him.
  • Thank y... Wohuz 2013/01/07 15:50:49 (edited)
    Thank you but no...
    You would not recognise much of that bible now. It was still in a state of flux.

    I cannot find any reference to Constantine inspecting or approving the canon at the first Council of Nicea. As with most of the first seven ecumenical councils, it was mostly taken up with deciding on what was and was not heresy, the divinity of Jesus and other areas of dogma.

    Full dogmatic articulations of the canons were not made until the Council of Trent of 1546 for Roman Catholicism, the Thirty-Nine Articles of 1563 for the Church of England, the Westminster Confession of Faith of 1647 for Calvinism, and the Synod of Jerusalem of 1672 for the Greek Orthodox. Other traditions, while also having closed canons, may not be able to point to the exact years in which their respective canons were considered to be complete.
  • Wohuz Thank y... 2013/01/08 08:56:17
    Wohuz
    Around the year 322 CE, Constantine, wishing to promote and organize Christian worship in the growing number of churches in Constantinople, directed the bishop, Eusebius, to have 50 copies of the sacred Scriptures made by practiced scribes and written legibly on prepared parchment. At the same time the emperor informed him, in a letter still preserved to us, that everything necessary for doing this was placed at his command, among other things two public carriages for conveying the completed manuscripts to the emperor for his personal inspection.

    According to Eusebius: "Such were the emperor's commands, which were followed by the immediate execution of the work itself, which we sent him in magnificent and elaborately bound volumes of a threefold and fourfold form." (Vita Const. 4.36.37)

    The exact meaning of the concluding words has been taken in a half dozen different senses. Two of the most popular are, that the pages had 'three or four columns of script', or that as the copies were completed, they were sent off for the emperor's inspection 'three or four at a time'. The astonishing thing is that Eusebius, who took care to tell us at some length about the fluctuations of opinion in regard to certain books, has not one word to say regarding the choice he made on this important ...
    Around the year 322 CE, Constantine, wishing to promote and organize Christian worship in the growing number of churches in Constantinople, directed the bishop, Eusebius, to have 50 copies of the sacred Scriptures made by practiced scribes and written legibly on prepared parchment. At the same time the emperor informed him, in a letter still preserved to us, that everything necessary for doing this was placed at his command, among other things two public carriages for conveying the completed manuscripts to the emperor for his personal inspection.

    According to Eusebius: "Such were the emperor's commands, which were followed by the immediate execution of the work itself, which we sent him in magnificent and elaborately bound volumes of a threefold and fourfold form." (Vita Const. 4.36.37)

    The exact meaning of the concluding words has been taken in a half dozen different senses. Two of the most popular are, that the pages had 'three or four columns of script', or that as the copies were completed, they were sent off for the emperor's inspection 'three or four at a time'. The astonishing thing is that Eusebius, who took care to tell us at some length about the fluctuations of opinion in regard to certain books, has not one word to say regarding the choice he made on this important occasion. Of course, 50 magnificent copies, all uniform, could not but exercise a great influence on great influence on future copies, at least within the bounds of the patriarchate of Constantinople, and would help forward the process of arriving at a commonly accepted New Testament in the East.
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  • Thank y... Wohuz 2013/01/08 14:19:20
    Thank you but no...
    The key words here are "help forward". There is no evidence that the canon became immutable at this point, but much to show that it continued to change until at least the Council of Trent.
  • Wohuz Thank y... 2013/01/09 08:55:05
    Wohuz
    +1
    You seriously can't deny that the 50 Bibles of Constantine didn't play a role in the development of biblical canon.
  • Thank y... Wohuz 2013/01/09 19:20:58
    Thank you but no...
    I don't. I simply disagree with the premise above that this was when the canon became fixed.
  • Wohuz Thank y... 2013/01/10 09:56:01
    Wohuz
    +1
    I guess I should have been more clear. The Bible was helped put together by Constantine. Why should I care what books he liked and in what order he liked them in?
  • Thank y... Wohuz 2013/01/10 14:52:09
    Thank you but no...
    +1
    True. Seems like we thought we disagreed but actually agreed. Cool!
  • Marcus Clark 2013/01/01 09:48:32
    Morgan can say whatever...
    Marcus Clark
    He is free to say whatever he wants. He is just proving what a fool he really is.
  • new mexico PWCM~JLA 2013/01/01 06:47:37
    Morgan need to shut up...
    new mexico PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Sausage jockey needs to go back home.
  • Israel new mex... 2013/01/01 11:47:22
  • Thank y... new mex... 2013/01/05 16:41:29
    Thank you but no...
    +1
    Please keep him over there, pretty please? You can have a cookie...
  • new mex... Thank y... 2013/01/07 01:02:56
  • GAC 2013/01/01 00:43:50 (edited)
    Morgan need to shut up...
    GAC
    I'm already sick of this twisted British numbskull and his annoying accent. The First Amendment technically doesn't apply to him since he isn't even an American citizen. So I don't think he has any business calling us stupid for believing in what texts (the constitution or the Bible) we Americans choose to hold sacred. He also has no business in lecturing us for wanting to defend ourselves from either a mentally-sick criminal or a tyrannical government. We get your point Piers. NOW PUT A CORK IN IT!
  • Israel GAC 2013/01/01 11:48:11
  • elijahin24 2013/01/01 00:31:14
    Morgan can say whatever...
    elijahin24
    The Bible IS inherently flawed, in MANY ways. The Constitution isn't perfect either. It represents the best wisdom of good, but imperfect men, who lived in an imperfect time. I don't see what's wrong with saying that.
  • Shifting Piece 2012/12/31 16:31:57
  • wildcat 2012/12/31 16:26:40
    Morgan can say whatever...
    wildcat
    +1
    Blessed is the man, who having nothing to say abstains from giving wordy evidence of that fact.
  • JAR HEAD 2012/12/31 16:23:13
    Morgan can say whatever...
    JAR HEAD
    funny thing is hes way more intelligent then anyone on Fox spews. therefor way smarter then you
  • D Hanes 2012/12/31 15:53:00
    Morgan need to shut up...
    D Hanes
    +2
    I'M SICK OF THIS BRITISH PR**K.. GO HOME !
  • joseph digristina 2012/12/31 15:43:26
  • sglmom 2012/12/31 07:36:36
    Undecided
    sglmom
    +2
    Didn't he say he was going to self-deport from the US?
    Hey, piers ..

    you've gotten enough $$$$$
    time to put it to good use
    and purchase your one-way ticket off the continent ..
    there's plenty of places where you'd feel more 'comfortable' ..
    maybe with Hugo, NK, China, Iran?
  • stevmackey 2012/12/31 06:38:51
    Morgan need to shut up...
    stevmackey
    +3
    Let's amend Morgan
  • History... stevmackey 2013/01/03 06:11:56
    HistoryBuff782
    Your bible condones genocide, murder, rape, incest, and the idea of eternal torment. I think it would be good just to get rid of it altogether.
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