Phoenix Woman Ordered to Not Give Out Water in 112 Degree Heat Because She Lacked a Permit: Absurd or Appropriate?

by Heisenberg Posted 2012/08/21 23:00:00

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	Absurd	465 votes	96%
	Appropriate	18 votes	4%

REASON.COM reports:
This is what government is all about. Forget roads, mass murder through warfare, or locking people up for their consumption choices: it's making sure that no one gives out water without a permit.

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sglmom 2012/08/21 22:47:16

Absurd

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Asinine ..
(Government needs to BUTT OUT of this .. seriously .. sealed bottled water .. in High Heat .. would they rather have folks pass out from Heat Stroke and possibly die?)
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democoach to lil crazy 2012/08/30 07:54:21

lol, she doesn't need a vending permit to exercise the first amendment (do i need to copy and paste that down for you?) nor does she need a vending permit to give out FREE water! if it was tickets to the program id agree with you but its watera commodity and a necessity which we should get for FREE! unless you can proove you need a permit to ive out water, stop saying the same thing over and over.

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Dan ☮ R... to lil crazy 2012/08/21 23:59:37 (edited)

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I didnt know that speech and religion needed to be regulated too.

And honestly, no they dont. People have their own duty to keep themselves safe, and the government should not get involved until a crime is committed and punish the criminal to the full extent of the law.
What you are promoting is guilty until proven innocent, while our country should stand by the principle of innocent until proven guilty.

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lil crazy to Dan ☮ R... 2012/08/22 03:13:50

I am not promoting anything but saying everyone is bound by the same rules when it comes to festivals and the like.
If a business was to hand out free water to help promote their business they would still need a permit like everyone else there so why should some religious person be an exception to that rule. Would you say the same thing if it was a Muslim or an Atheist?
Sorry I just don't believe religions should get special treatment.

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Dan ☮ R... to lil crazy 2012/08/22 03:40:45

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And I say citizens should never need a permit to give our free water, nor should they need a special permit to exercise these rights.

In fact, under common law licenses and permits are permission from the government to perform an illegal activity, so for me to accept your defense of the state, I have to accept that free speech and freedom of religion are illegal.

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Adam to lil crazy 2012/08/22 20:28:56

even if it wasn't religion, people don't need a permit to give away free stuff. People have the right their beliefs without being required a permit. This is part of free speech and free exercise of religion.

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lil crazy to Adam 2012/08/22 22:45:27

they do need a permit to distribute goods at a festival.

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sglmom 2012/08/21 22:47:16

Absurd

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Asinine ..
(Government needs to BUTT OUT of this .. seriously .. sealed bottled water .. in High Heat .. would they rather have folks pass out from Heat Stroke and possibly die?)

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jason to sglmom 2012/08/22 15:44:47

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They didnt SWAT team her? Wow, they are slipping. If that had been in California they would have had her face down in the concrete surrounded by DHS.

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KingdomNow 2012/08/21 22:45:56

Absurd

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I'm sure the police would be called if she had the nerve to sell lemonade.

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Shadow_... to KingdomNow 2012/08/21 23:13:18

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She would have been trialed for attempted murder

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Racefish 2012/08/21 22:45:39 (edited)

Absurd

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My son was walking around in Goodyear some years back, dehydrated and on the verge of collapse. If he hadn't been stopped and hospitalized by the police, who knows what could have happened.
Besides, the city ordinance does not cover "giving away", but only selling. Grierson had no business interfering with, or obstructing, Dana Crow-Smith from "giving away" her property.

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Harjot 2012/08/21 22:44:03

Absurd

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Let them drink champagne!

Arizona is just plain weird.

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RobHom 2012/08/21 22:42:14

Absurd

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On the face of it, it sounds absurd, but like many stories it only barely scratches the surface... Question: If she was "prosletyzing"....was she requiring someone to listen to a religious speech before receiving a bottle of water....or was she just passing it out ...out of the goodness of her heart.

If it was out of the goodness of her heart....the city of Pheonix needs to get a grip.

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Murph 2012/08/21 22:39:53

Absurd

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They did it because she's a Christian. If she were a Democrat or member of some other heathen religion, she would have gotten a letter of commendation from Comrade First Lady Michelle Obama.

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TrudyGirl to Murph 2012/08/21 22:43:47

you are one sick puppy..Arizona is falling off the cliff...do us all a favor and go with them!

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Heisenberg 2012/08/21 22:36:31

Absurd

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Can we decrease the scope of government just a little bit?

I am a right winger who disagrees with the 'you didn't build that' narrative.

I don't want ZERO government, I want a minimum of government and this is reason 1,927 why I want government smaller.

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Racefish to Heisenberg 2012/08/21 22:53:46

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Not the whole state, but only a few idiots. Maybe he had a case of heat stroke and needed water himself.

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Rusty S... to Heisenberg 2012/08/21 22:54:53

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No one in their right mind wants no government. I do however want the federal government limited to those powers enumerated in the Constitution. For that I am considered a radical extremist.

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hasher to Rusty S... 2012/08/22 00:42:08

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i know go figure. i never thought i would be viewed as an extremist for wanting to uphold theconstitution. shame on me!! LOL

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hasher to Heisenberg 2012/08/22 00:39:34

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me too. at least i dont live in new york where you got mr nanny bloomberg telling nyorkers how much soda they can have and a whole bunch of other nit wit ideas.

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Skylaris Alanis 2012/08/21 22:36:11

Absurd

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wtf?

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