Penn State outrage over sanctions grows far greater than the outrage they exhibited over the violated young boys. Is football more important to PSU fans than what was done to those boys?

by tncdel Posted 2012/07/24 18:59:53

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This report makes me wonder about Penn State priorities when they attach more importance to retaining football game wins than they do the lives of those boys:
http://gma.yahoo.com/penn-state-sanctions-outrage-grows-over-...

My own opinion is that they should be so mortified about it that they shouldn't utter a peep of protest over mere football bragging rights.

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Mr. Rock "n" Roll 2012/07/24 19:09:55

NO [comment as you wish].

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No football is not more important, however It was the players that won the games and it is not fair to punish them by taking their wins away for what others are guilty for doing.
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Don Leuty 2012/07/25 06:53:27

YES [comment as you wish].

Football is more important than academics. Their priorities are way out of whack.

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Bill 2012/07/25 00:06:10

YES [comment as you wish].

Thats all there is in the country of Happy Valley. Everyone has forgotten that it is supposed to be a State University FIRST. Everything plays second to that Football program

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Cal 2012/07/24 21:34:50

NO [comment as you wish].

However it makes no sense to punish the school and it's programs for one criminal. Shall we punish the entire state of Colorado for their gunman too? It's a little absurd. #flawedjustice.

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Balladeer-PWCM-POTL 2012/07/24 21:23:10

NO [comment as you wish].

it's because the punishment does not fit the crime.....you are shutting down GM for the volt debacle...when you need to get to the INDIVIDUALS responsible and punish them...I believe the MAIN reason for the anger is that this is the SAME NCAA that has looked the other way since 1963 for..

Recruitment violations
Academic Cheating
assaults on Women
Point Shaving
Gambling
Drugs
Steroids
unusual Official Calls

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Waldorf 2012/07/24 20:46:22

NO [comment as you wish].

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The Penn State family will be the first to protest issues of unfairness.

As far as their outrage over treatment of the boys, EVERYONE who could be connected with any coverup was promptly fired.

I think retroactive penalties are absurd. The school should be penalized for misbegotten competitiveness and support but only in the future. I would throw out the forfeiture of games and the monetary penalty.

The loss of scholarships will just wind up hurting promising players who can't attend college any other way.

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Seonag 2012/07/24 20:31:59

YES [comment as you wish].

And that is why nothing was done all those years!

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Willy 2012/07/24 19:44:26

YES [comment as you wish].

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Football is nothing more than a homosexual ritual.

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OnlyAPilgrim 2012/07/24 19:35:05

YES [comment as you wish].

+1
Sad, but true

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Nimitz 2012/07/24 19:22:57

NO [comment as you wish].

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As with most social issues, this one's complicated. One of the factors which complicates it is the fact that Penn State, like most colleges, receives an enormous amount of money through its athletic program. Likewise, many students couldn't go there without athletic scholarships. Never mind that these sanctions will prolly spell the end of Penn State, they're punishing people who didn't have a damned thing to do with the child abuse.

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tncdel to Nimitz 2012/07/24 19:36:45

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I just couldn't help notice that there was a lot less uproar from PSU fans about what was done to the boys.

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Nimitz to tncdel 2012/07/24 19:38:21

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True, but I think that was mostly denial. I s'pose it's kind of hard to accept the fact that your heroes are pervs.

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Dan ☮ R... to Nimitz 2012/07/24 20:37:23

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Very true. Its hard for most people to accept it if its found out that their heroes are criminals.

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Kat 2012/07/24 19:14:30

NO [comment as you wish].

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But this could severely affect the future of their institution.

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tncdel to Kat 2012/07/24 19:23:21

What about the futures of many boys whose heads are screwed up from sexual violation?

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Kat to tncdel 2012/07/24 19:24:32

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Unfortunate, but I have a hard time blaming all the people there that didn't know and are going to be negatively affected by it.

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tncdel to Kat 2012/07/24 19:41:05 (edited)

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Me either. But the PSU program, like a corporate entity, must absorb the responsibility. It's unfortunate that those not responsible for what the program allowed to happen get penalized along with the guilty.

But certainly a whole lot less unfortunate than those many boys whose heads are screwed up for the rest of their lives. As bad as rape is for a woman, a young boy raped bears the added onerous burden of PERVERSION in addition to violation.

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ordman 2012/07/24 19:12:03

YES [comment as you wish].

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It would appear that Penn State believes that there ass is more important than any body elses.

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Nimitz to ordman 2012/07/24 19:24:23

That MIGHT have been true had PSU appealed the decision. It readily agreed to them--and in the process effectively pushed the self-destruct button on the institution.

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Mr. Rock "n" Roll 2012/07/24 19:09:55

NO [comment as you wish].

+4
No football is not more important, however It was the players that won the games and it is not fair to punish them by taking their wins away for what others are guilty for doing.

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tncdel to Mr. Roc... 2012/07/24 19:22:11

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The players, coaches and everyone involved in the football program won those games. The players didn't win on their own. So the entire program must pay the penalty. Further, it is likely some players knew about what was going on as well.

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Nimitz to tncdel 2012/07/24 19:25:45

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That might have been true of the players who were there when it was going on. Most of those have graduated or left by now. That means only NEW players who didn't have a damn thing to do with it are being punished.

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Tom to Nimitz 2012/07/24 19:37:12

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And the players there now can go somewhere else and play, and those getting ready to make a choice on where to go can go elsewhere to play.

Taking the wins away doesn't do anything to anyone, except take away from Paterno's legacy.

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Nimitz to Tom 2012/07/24 19:39:39

Agreed on both counts.

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Mr. Roc... to Nimitz 2012/07/24 19:48:25

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No! The players that graduated and worked hard for those wins are being raped and stripped of their accomplishments. In life, you don’t get much to hang your hat and to have your glory days taken from you because of the actions of some a-hole is just not right in the same manor that a-hole took advantage and the innocents of those young boys.

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Nimitz to Mr. Roc... 2012/07/24 19:57:34

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I didn't say it was right, or that I agreed with punishing people who had nothing to do with the original atrocity. I only agreed to the choices which such individuals have.

But taking away Paterno's 'legacy' doesn't bother me in the least. There's no way he could NOT have known what his coaching staff was doing--especially after it had been reported to him by several students/staff.

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Mr. Roc... to Nimitz 2012/07/24 20:00:36

+1
I agree 100%

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Mr. Roc... to tncdel 2012/07/24 19:40:53

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"It is likely some players knew about what was going on as well"
But that is not proven

To punish those that played the game is simply doing the same to them that Sandusky did to those poor boys. Their record is what it is and should not be taken from them because of the independent actions of other individuals, unless those actions had an impact on the outcome of said games.

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relic 2012/07/24 19:09:25

YES [comment as you wish].

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I wonder if these same people were as outraged at the Catholic Church's Priests being stripped of their frocks.

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