Paul Ryan wins VP pick
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Paul Ryan, the one man who has actually written a budget for the country since Barack Obama took office, will run for Vice-President on Mitt Romney's ticket.
This changes the game. Mitt Romney, by picking Ryan, has thrown every canard against him and against capitalism itself, straight into the faces of Barack Obama, the Democrats, and their whole undisciplined machine.
Ryan has two other advantages over many of the other candidates:
He is a Congressman, not a Senator. The Republicans cannot spare any of their Senators just now, especially the true conservatives among them.
He is a natural born citizen. Marco Rubio, sadly, is not. His parents didn't get naturalized until he was five years old. (But any of Senator Rubio's children should be eligible.)
But his biggest advantage is: He doesn't care what others think, so long as they do think. Which most of his detractors clearly do not.
This changes the game. Mitt Romney, by picking Ryan, has thrown every canard against him and against capitalism itself, straight into the faces of Barack Obama, the Democrats, and their whole undisciplined machine.
Ryan has two other advantages over many of the other candidates:
He is a Congressman, not a Senator. The Republicans cannot spare any of their Senators just now, especially the true conservatives among them.
He is a natural born citizen. Marco Rubio, sadly, is not. His parents didn't get naturalized until he was five years old. (But any of Senator Rubio's children should be eligible.)
But his biggest advantage is: He doesn't care what others think, so long as they do think. Which most of his detractors clearly do not.
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Top Opinion
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Good choice.
+14That budget that he actually got the House to pass earlier this year is the first attempt in a long time to get control of our out-of-control spending. By choosing him, Mitt Romney gives us a choice, and a stark one: Responsibility or irresponsibility. Freedom or slavery. Solvency or insolvency. Wealth or debt.
They did go though the actual bankruptcy.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/...
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/0...
Let's see a reputable source that suggests otherwise.
Quit pulling your "facts" out of your A$$.
Okay?
Come on Man.
Try to improve yourself.
You don't want to be an ignorant Right Wing Nut Job for the rest of your life do you?
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The article EXPLICITLY states bankruptcy.
And every bankruptcy entails reorganization
The trouble with Right Wingers is that they don't know the meaning of the words they throw around.
Where? If I missed that please point it out... please.
What happened here was a robbery of taxpayers and bond holders. Theft -- plain, pure and simple.
And the saddest part of all is that since they were not required to do any fundamental restructuring as happens in REAL bankruptcies, as opposed to bailout/thefts that we have here, their business model is still unworkable. As things stand now, there will be a steady flow of tax dollars into GM every few years until they get it right.
This will be our new AMTRACK, billions upon billions of dollars for a service that is mediocre at best, when it should be a powerful independent business that is turning a profit and paying taxes instead of receiving them.
. . . Because you say so?
lol
why would GM want to take the advice of a Right Wing Nut Job?
GM wants to succeed . . . Not fail.
Right now I would LOVE to work at HALF the pay the fat cat union boys are making as they are getting fatter on my tax dollars.
The bottom line again, since you are not paying attention, is that they are still failing and sucking our tax dollars down with them.
What do they call people who wish evil upon their own nation?
. . . . Traitor perhaps?
I want a strong and profitable auto industry, not an anemic one foundering and in constant need to transfusions of taxpayer's cash.
You OTOH, seem utterly untroubled by this prospect.
Yes, the Laffer curve does have two sides when it comes to generating revenue. I would never deny it and don't know anyone who would. OTOH, that does NOT apply the the stimulative effect as you seem to suggest. The economy would REALLY take off if we could simply have no taxes at all, but thought I think taxes are too high, I absolutely believe we do need to have good revenues to pay for the legitimate functions of government.
You don't think this nation is drilling for oil?
Are you willfully ignorant or just really f*cking stupid?
Or is it a combination of those things?
This nation has over 1900 rotary rigs drilling away in the oil and gas fields right now.
http://investor.shareholder.c...
Why don't you do a little research, instead of popping off with stupid comment after stupid comment?
Don't you have any pride?
But I ask you: do you really think that we are opening new wells where they could add significantly to our oil output?
Do you really think that you can play such a transparent confidence trick?
Obama has shut down new exploration. Shut. It. Down. Completely. Even in defiance of court orders.
Do not think you can make us forget things like that.
And you are completely misinformed.
Obama hasn't "shut down new exploration." That's pure drivel, unsupported by reality.
What even makes you think that?
The trouble with you Right Wingers is that you actually believe your own lies.
The larger point is that the government has taken entirely too much on itself. Confine the government to its core functions (police, military, and courts of law), and we can enjoy large surpluses with ease. Reduce tax *rates*, and revenues will actually *rise* as investors realize that they can keep more of their own as they make money again. Who wants to make money, if the government will confiscate it all?
Exploratory wells are drilled according to economic feasability. When the price of oil goes up. More exploration occurs.
It's not at all uncommon, I used to work in the oil field years ago. in fact i was a driller, and i worked for quite a few different drilling contractors during my time in the patch.
And the government's core functions, as defined by the Constitution, include promoting and providing for the general welfare.
Get used to it, accept it, and move on.
Oh . . . and TRY to be a good citizen . . . OK?
We already have reduced tax rates.
Remember the great economy during the Clinton administration? Remember all the tax revenue that balanced the budget?
Well, GW reduced tax rates twice since then. And he more than DOUBLED the national debt.
Where's all the revenue?
Get Real.
And "general welfare" is supposed to mean "welfare of the union of States." Not the specific welfare of favored members of what you call "the public."
. . . Not the welfare of a few plutocrats served by millions of dumb peons.
Funny you should talk about rich people as if they were some kind of alien invaders. You've got some of those people on your side, more's the pity. They either have more dollars than sense, or else they're planning to make SURE that no one can challenge them for the title of richest people in the world. By making sure that everybody else grows poor and stays poor.
Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are the two richest men in the nation, but neither one of them are Plutocrats.
You need to spend some time with a dictionary. Learn history while you're at it, and not that lying revisionist history they teach you at the RWNJ Academy.
Wouldn't you actually like to know what you're talking about for a change?
Putocrats are the wealthy who would rule at the expense of everyone else.
As I said, neither Bill Gates nor Warren Buffet are Plutocrats.
Why?
Because they have a social conscience.
. . . Because they are intelligent and principled men with a sensible system of values.
In other words, they are not Right Wing Nut Job scum.
That's why you will never be able to understand them.
What I *actually* argue for, is cutting government down to its three core functions. That would not be the same as any man telling you what to do just because he's rich and you're poor.
The Great Right Wing Hive Mind?
Learn to think for yourself.
Don't you ever get tired of boot licking?
The responsibility of government is to govern responsibly.
And you have duties and responsibilities as a citizen as well.
Don't you ever get tired of being an irresponsible Right Wing Nut Job who feels ENTITLED to benefit from being a citizen but feels no duty to this great nation?
Don't you ever get tired of being a worthless ingrate?
You're the one promoting a hive culture. You and your twisted notion of duty and responsibility.
And I'm not buying the ingrate label, either.
So if you had your way, you would toss out the legislative branch of government huh?
Why do you hate the Constitution so much?
The three branches of government are the Legislative, the Executive, and the Judicial.
Legislative - creates law
Executive - Enforces the law
Judicial - interprets the law
Your nitwitted assertion is that the government's functions include only:
." . . . police, military, and courts of law . . . "
The Police and the military, are enforcement arms, and so they fall under the Executive branch.
Courts of Law fall under the judicial branch.
You completely left out the legislative branch.
You have a hard time thinking things through, don't you?
It's no wonder that most of you Right Wingers have completely given up thinking for yourselves.
The Illegal moratorium is still going on in the Gulf. We are still not drilling in ANWR. We still do not have increases in off shore drilling on either coast. Da Bamster has hit the brakes on drilling on Federal lands.
You think this is an increase in production? Seriously?
Read your OWN link there buddy, it sez that we are down 77 working rigs since last year. In case I have to 'splain it to ya, that is a significant decrease. If they had added 77 rigs that still might not be a significant increase, but it would be something.
But I see you've completely changed your tune from implying that there is no drilling going on at all in the US. It looks to me like you might have learned something and actually retained it.
Well, that's a step in the right direction. By not denying reality outright, that puts you in the possibly-sane category.
Good Job !
Before you know it, you might actually shake off the shackles of Right Wing Extremism and think for yourself !
. . . but I'm not holding my breath.
What has been trotted out to argue against it is a bunch of tired old arguments that were untrue 40 years ago when we built the pipeline, and are still untrue today.
I have implied nothing that you have "deduced" from my words. I said we need to drill and drill MORE and a LOT more. How you concluded that I meant that we were not drilling at all is bizarre, but then, you are an Obama supporter so it kinda figures.
http://www.defenders.org/arct...
" . . . we would be drilling in a small fragment of that area . . . "
Uh huh, but how are going to get the rigs in and out? And the oil? How do we get that out?
If the Teleporter on the Starship Enterprise is beefy enough, we could simply teleport that oil out of ANWR.
Sadly, the Starship Enterprise is not real. And neither is the Reagan Myth, and neither is the utopia of Right Wing Nut Job Land.
In reality, a pipeline would have to be built, and that would be very destructive to the fragile ecosystem of the area.
Why drill in such an environmentally sensitive area now, when there are plenty of other areas to drill?
That oil has been there for a few hundred million years. It's not going anywhere. To me it would make more sense to save that oil. And then at some future date when drilling and production technologies are greatly improved, maybe then look into the possibility of extracting that oil.
Our options for energy extraction have been vastly improved since the Reagan era. And the price of energy is not nearly as closely linked to the price of world oil as it was then.
And we can thank the United States government, at least in part, for that. The Federal Government researched and pioneered workable process...
http://www.defenders.org/arct...
" . . . we would be drilling in a small fragment of that area . . . "
Uh huh, but how are going to get the rigs in and out? And the oil? How do we get that out?
If the Teleporter on the Starship Enterprise is beefy enough, we could simply teleport that oil out of ANWR.
Sadly, the Starship Enterprise is not real. And neither is the Reagan Myth, and neither is the utopia of Right Wing Nut Job Land.
In reality, a pipeline would have to be built, and that would be very destructive to the fragile ecosystem of the area.
Why drill in such an environmentally sensitive area now, when there are plenty of other areas to drill?
That oil has been there for a few hundred million years. It's not going anywhere. To me it would make more sense to save that oil. And then at some future date when drilling and production technologies are greatly improved, maybe then look into the possibility of extracting that oil.
Our options for energy extraction have been vastly improved since the Reagan era. And the price of energy is not nearly as closely linked to the price of world oil as it was then.
And we can thank the United States government, at least in part, for that. The Federal Government researched and pioneered workable processes for extracting oil from oil shale and oil sand. And that has opened up fields that were once thought impossible to exploit.
http://www.unconventionalfuel...
No matter what you prefer to believe, burning down the forest to warm your hands is just stupid.
As for your previous position, when i asked you this:
"How do you propose to pay down the national debt without significant taxation?"
You said this:
"Drill for oil and cut taxes so the economy can GROW."
And that idiotic reply intimated that we are not drilling for oil now, which is absolutely false.
You change your story a lot, don't you?
You Flip Flop more than Shifty Mitt Bundy.
No wonder you're such a fan of his.
By the way, why are you so reticent to support any of your claims with verifiable and legitimate sources?
Your unsupported claims are pretty much worthless, you know?
I seem to remember telling you that. I said it was BS then, and it is still BS. But again, you want to believe what you want to believe and reality dare not intrude.
Your belief that I didn't believe we were already doing some drilling for oil is simply not to be taken seriously, and neither are you.
I know . . .It must be embarrassing to be caught red handed and identified as an amazingly IGNORANT RWNJ.
But that is EXACTLY what happened, isn't it?
lol
The trouble with you RWNJ's is that you believe your own lies . . . and then when you're confronted b reality . . . You're just AMAZED, aren't you?
You RWNJ's are quite the phenomena, aren't you?
Come on, let's hear you try to lie your way out of your embarrassment some more.
. . . .You're Hilarious.
No adult of sound mind could draw that conclusion. Do you think that everyone with a "Drill baby drill" bumper sticker thinks we are not already drilling for some oil?
Do you think that people with "Drill here, Drill NOW, Pay Less" think that we are not drilling for oil?
You are either AMAZINGLY stupid or are just pretending to be for the sake of continuing the fight. Either way it is just beyond lame.
lol
And funny as hell.
Thanks for the laugh.
It is quite amazing though isn't it ??
. . . It's hard to believe that someone could be so out of touch with reality as to believe that America isn't drilling for oil.
. . . But RWNJ's are like that.
You are dismissed.
The trouble with that is . . . The Right Wing Hive Mind is really STUPID.
Now, whether we like it or not, we need to fight one war at a time and too often last year's ally is this year's foe. We were allies with the USSR during WW2, and had we not worked together and supplied then and GB at their time of need, the war could very easily have been lost.
Now, it was important to win the cold war FIRST.
You give him credit for the fall of the Berlin Wall and the dissolution of the Soviet Union. But he was out of office at the time.
And what the hell are you talking about?
How could aiding the Afghans in the reconstruction of their country in any way weaken us in the cold war?