Paul Ryan is a fake?

by kir Posted 2012/08/13 14:28:46

Related Topics: Stimulus, Time, Tarp, Paul Ryan, Ryan, Worried, Government, Government Spending, Vote

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	More spending was needed at the time.	0 votes	0%
	He's a fake; he wants more government spending.	9 votes	43%
	None of the above	12 votes	57%

If Paul Ryan really has been worried about government spending, then why has he done so much to support it?

Why did he vote yes on NDAA? Why did he beg for TARP's passage? Why did he vote not only for the first stimulus package but the second one as well?

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Mike 2012/08/13 14:37:36

None of the above

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The way you put it, Ryan sounds like an Obama, “yes we can,” supporter as in we need more spending. At least Ryan is trying to implement a budget where No-Budget-Obama has unlimited spending.
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InoYamanaka 2012/08/17 01:06:31

None of the above

Don't have enough info yet.

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kir to InoYama... 2012/08/17 01:15:40

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That's why I posted the links. http://politicoid.blogspot.co...

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InoYama... to kir 2012/08/17 01:31:56

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Yep that would make him a fake.

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star 2012/08/14 02:34:45

None of the above

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not a fake, just human.

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kir to star 2012/08/14 12:12:27

I know a lot of humans that didn't beg for TARP to be passed, didn't vote yes for the stimulus, the auto bailouts, the patriot act, etc.

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star to kir 2012/08/16 07:11:40

I hated those also.

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kir to star 2012/08/16 13:08:48

And would you have voted yes for them? Or worse yet, would you have pleaded to have TARP passed?

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mwg0735 2012/08/14 02:33:32
whitecollar 2012/08/13 21:54:25 (edited)

He's a fake; he wants more government spending.

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His budget would explode the deficit ten times over for the American people. He's Just another conservative hypocrit; and probably never had to live on a tight budget, himself.

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gregaj7 2012/08/13 20:06:15 (edited)

None of the above

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The WHOLE show is fake!

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ALofRI 2012/08/13 18:08:08

He's a fake; he wants more government spending.

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Rubber stamped everything Bush wanted (Known as CYA), and was instrumental in getting us to where we were in 2007. A complete (and dangerous) phony! They ARE a lot alike, never made a statement they couldn't reverse. The Etch-a-Sketch twins!

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Katfish 2012/08/13 18:00:29

He's a fake; he wants more government spending.

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Dont forget the supports of wars without funding and the auto-bailouts

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kir to Katfish 2012/08/13 18:01:08

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Indeed. I'll have to add more to my post at some point.

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Katfish to kir 2012/08/13 18:07:37

someone else has a lot.
http://www.sodahead.com/unite...

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Striker 2012/08/13 17:06:42

He's a fake; he wants more government spending.

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Time for the RINO's to bite the dust. Read some surprising truth about Ryan and his philosophy... from Dan.

http://www.sodahead.com/unite...

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Bob DiN 2012/08/13 17:03:21

None of the above

No Ryan is the real deal. He's what we need to avoid default.

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kir to Bob DiN 2012/08/13 17:19:16

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You mean someone who supports giving our taxpayer money to the big banks and to failed companies through stimulus programs? Or do you mean someone who strips away our freedom through oppressive programs like the Patriot Act and NDAA?

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Bob DiN to kir 2012/08/13 17:30:15

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No I mean Paul Ryan an honest man, not Liar Barrack Obama.

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kir to Bob DiN 2012/08/13 17:32:51

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Paul Ryan continued the lies about Romney being for small government and even parroted the lie about him not raising taxes. Also wouldn't you call demanding smaller government while helping to grow government a lie even if it isn't a verbal one?

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Bob DiN to kir 2012/08/13 17:45:48

No, you just like spewing liberal propaganda.

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kir to Bob DiN 2012/08/13 17:55:25

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I'm a fiscal conservative. I support limited government and free market capitalism.

Do you deny that Ryan voted yes for TARP and the first stimulus program? This is a cold hard fact; no propaganda involved.

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Bob DiN to kir 2012/08/13 18:09:52

So did everyone else vote for it.

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kir to Bob DiN 2012/08/13 20:08:07

Not everyone, but it doesn't matter if so many people did. Just because a bunch of people are doing something stupid doesn't mean that you should; didn't your mother ever tell you that?

Ryan voted yes on
TARP
Stimulus
The Auto bailouts

Combined with Romney's history it gets even worse. Is that the type of candidate you want to support?

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Bob DiN to kir 2012/08/13 20:25:38

Everyone makes mistakes the smart ones don't repeat them. Romney/Ryan 2012!

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kir to Bob DiN 2012/08/13 20:28:09

Except these were mistakes spread over the course of years. That is a repeat. Sure, alright if they fell for the TARP scam then maybe. But also the auto bailouts and the stimulus? Really? Come on.

You sound like a battered wife saying that your husband has changed and that he won't beat you anymore.

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Bob DiN to kir 2012/08/13 20:31:45

You sound like someone high on drugs, because you can't deal with reality.

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kir to Bob DiN 2012/08/13 20:33:36 (edited)

You want reality? Here's Ryan pleading with congress to support TARP.

Please review my links for even more videos as well as voting records.

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Bob DiN to kir 2012/08/13 20:34:10

Bye drugy troll.

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kir to Bob DiN 2012/08/13 20:38:41

Druggy troll huh? That's interesting. I guess when you run out of arguments you start slinging insults. I don't use drugs aside from the usual culprits--alcohol and tobacco, though I use cigars not cigarettes--so that doesn't really fly.

You have the video. You really can't deny what Ryan did any longer, at least not to yourself.

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Bob DiN to kir 2012/08/13 20:42:04 (edited)

Himmmm, I thought I said BYE.

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kir to Bob DiN 2012/08/13 20:44:44

Indeed you did, and at least now you know the truth whether or not you will admit it to yourself or to others.

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Technotrucker_exposingthetruth 2012/08/13 16:10:10

He's a fake; he wants more government spending.

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And the neocons are buying the whole line of BS. That ABO mentality is driving them to insanity. Romney cannot beat BO in the General Election.

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Max 2012/08/13 15:50:05

He's a fake; he wants more government spending.

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Besides Ron Paul, I can't think of one congressperson that isn't a fake. This one takes the cake, next to his running mate.

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Bob DiN to Max 2012/08/13 17:04:50

How long are you going to be on this Ron Paul kick. He's finished deal with it.

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Max to Bob DiN 2012/08/13 18:22:18

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I will always support a winner. Your concern over my "kick" gives me the impression that you're a closet Paul supporter. His record of voting shows that he's not a "fake", which happens to be the topic of this post.

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SoCalEx-Dem 2012/08/13 15:49:46

None of the above

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I like Paul Ryan, I can't second guess his votes, but I will research him on my own. So far in my research, I have found nothing that would cause me not to support him. As for the opposition, I have found nothing to cause me to support them ever.

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kir to SoCalEx... 2012/08/13 16:50:07

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He voted yes on TARP: http://www.govtrack.us/congre...
He voted yes on the 2008 Stimulus: http://www.govtrack.us/congre...

Nothing you found has caused you issue with supporting him you say? Perhaps you should look harder.

I could come up with more big spending from him I'm sure.

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Max to kir 2012/08/13 18:25:43

I can understand your question on this post and I agree, that guy is a fake.

At the link below, towards the bottom of the page, you'll see his votes:

http://lewrockwell.com/orig13...

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SoCalEx... to kir 2012/08/13 19:09:08

We are down to the choice of Obama or Romney. You don't have to agree with me on anything else, but those are the facts. I choose Romney over Obama, how hard is that to comprehend?

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kir to SoCalEx... 2012/08/13 19:17:33

It's easy to comprehend since I am used to people ignoring the alternatives. We have five presidential candidates yet the two that are scum are the only two that are getting attention. I refuse to vote for a candidate that is going to destroy this country.

Sit and ask yourself if you're willing to vote for someone who supported NDAA, the Patriot Act, the auto bailouts, TARP or the stimulus program. Ask yourself if you're willing to support a Presidential candidate who created the foundation for PPACA with the help of the progressive Ted Kennedy, raised taxes while calling them fees and penalties to avoid "breaking" his promise, used taxpayer money to fund green energy programs, and stated that he supports cap and trade.

http://politicoid.blogspot.co...

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