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Pat Robertson calling Haiti earthquake divine punishment. What do you say?

Joe 2010/01/14 02:03:29
Yes, God is punishing Haiti for their wickedness.
No, absurd.
Normally Pat Robertson is so right on, but I dunno, this time!
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  • lex_xxx 2010/01/14 18:45:41
    No, absurd.
    lex_xxx
    +10
    Anyone who believes that this pompous, condescending, holier than tho, money grubbing piece of protoplasm is "a good religious man", is "dazed and confused". This "Demigod" in his own mind, is drunk with the power and money he has managed to accumulate. Perhaps God's purpose for not calling him home (AKA hell) is to teach us what we should not be and how NOT to use the lord's name in vain.

    Besides he's pious right? Doing God's work right?
    Robertson's net worth is between $200 million and $1 billion dollars according to the 2002 book The Best Democracy Money Can Buy by Greg Palast. Through his ostensibly charitable organization, Operation Blessing International, Robertson claims to have spent $1.2 million bringing aid to refugees in Rwanda. His critics, such as Palast, however showed that the money was actually spent to bring heavy equipment for Robertson's African Development Corporation, a diamond mining operation.

    A damn site more than the thirty pieces of gold that the bibles Judas got and I can only hope it turns out as well for Robertson. Perhaps Robertson should change the name of his cash cow from the 700 club th the 666 club to better reflect his true god. Seems kind of odd to but just occurred to me if you take the age of Jesus when he was crucified, and took it awa...




    Anyone who believes that this pompous, condescending, holier than tho, money grubbing piece of protoplasm is "a good religious man", is "dazed and confused". This "Demigod" in his own mind, is drunk with the power and money he has managed to accumulate. Perhaps God's purpose for not calling him home (AKA hell) is to teach us what we should not be and how NOT to use the lord's name in vain.

    Besides he's pious right? Doing God's work right?
    Robertson's net worth is between $200 million and $1 billion dollars according to the 2002 book The Best Democracy Money Can Buy by Greg Palast. Through his ostensibly charitable organization, Operation Blessing International, Robertson claims to have spent $1.2 million bringing aid to refugees in Rwanda. His critics, such as Palast, however showed that the money was actually spent to bring heavy equipment for Robertson's African Development Corporation, a diamond mining operation.

    A damn site more than the thirty pieces of gold that the bibles Judas got and I can only hope it turns out as well for Robertson. Perhaps Robertson should change the name of his cash cow from the 700 club th the 666 club to better reflect his true god. Seems kind of odd to but just occurred to me if you take the age of Jesus when he was crucified, and took it away from 700 (club) the sum is most definitely interesting.

    So Pat Robertson... if that's really your name, who really signed the deal with the devil?
    You stated in your statement about this sad disaster in Haiti, "God's vengeance for a "pact" Haitians swore to the Devil. Robertson said Haitians have been cursed because they made a "deal" with the Devil to free themselves from the French. He said even after the French were gone, the Island of Haiti has been cursed by "one thing after the other." You follow that statement saying "that's a fact".

    So I ask... how you can possibly know about such a pact that would have been struck over a hundred years before you were born... you are either a liar or you got it right from the Devil's mouth.
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  • digitalDave 2010/06/22 17:08:30
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    digitalDave
    Do you know the mind of God?
  • Joe digital... 2010/06/22 17:43:06
    Joe
    THe question is not so much in whether or not I know the mind of God, but whether or not this guy does.

    mind god guy
  • digital... Joe 2010/06/22 18:25:12
    digitalDave
    No it's it not.

    Deut 30:19 God honors our right to choose and make a decision.
    God cannot, will not make decisions for us, he will never usurp our power to choose, he can't make us. God will honor your decision. You are a free moral agent.
    But he will step away if you are in continuous sin. Have you ever been to Haiti? Do you know what Santaria is.

    You sound like your jealous of Mr. Robertson. What happened to the live and let live philosophy of the left, the vile, vitriolic racist left.
  • Joe digital... 2010/06/23 03:53:55
    Joe
    What happened to the "love thy neighbor as thyself" of Jesus? What happened to the "Love thy enemies" and "forgive them who despitefully use you"?

    All I'm saying is that it takes a vicious, vile and evil God to murder thousands for the disobedience of a few. I do not know the mind of God but if it is his mind to turn his children against one another and to punish innocent people for the disobedience of their neighbors, I will pronounce his mind evil and accept whole-heartedly the consequence.
  • digital... Joe 2010/06/24 01:34:33
    digitalDave
    God didn't do it. God removed his Grace because of their sin. You are out of your league son. God is pure, sinless and never accepting of it, ever, but He will let us choose. Deuteronomy 30:19
  • wildbill digital... 2010/07/23 04:21:25 (edited)
    wildbill
    Jesus Christ TOLD Robertson that HE dosen't even WATCH the 700 CLUB.

    Sing along:

    Hey MR. Robertson
    I don't even WATCH you're show. la la ....... :- )
  • Go Green 2010/02/07 21:09:21
    No, absurd.
    Go Green
    Pat sure acts like a racist! Does he represent the majority of Christians in this country? I DOUBT it!
  • Joe Go Green 2010/06/23 03:55:26
    Joe
    It is a good question. Do Christians denounce him? Some do, i think.
  • JCD aka "biz" 2010/01/26 08:28:20
    No, absurd.
    JCD aka "biz"
    +1
    Isn't Pat Robertson a kind of "divine punishment" for those poor souls who watch him?

    BTW, Haiti became independent in 1804, Napoleon III was emperor of France from 1851 to 1870. Is this Pat Robertson a high school dropout? Can he read books, real books, not just comics?
  • Snowflower55 2010/01/25 04:19:30
    No, absurd.
    Snowflower55
    +4
    Oh, please. Robertson has no idea what he's talking about. It's these kind of nut jobs that make Christians look like a bunch of backwater cult fanatics. God doesn't punish people like he had to in the Old Testament. Jesus formed a link between God and human, and God no longer has to be a parent that passes out punishment. And, how was Haiti supposed to make a pact with the devil? And even if they had managed that, I doubt the whole population would have agreed to the pact. And what gives him evidence to back up this hypothesis about Divine Punishment, anyway? Has any Haitian made any remark about a pact, or Satan? Unless I missed the latest newsflash, I doubt so. And why would God let the supposed Haitians that had made the pact with Satan live without punishment and punish their innocent descendants? I'm going for the theory that he's saying this so he won't have to send missions to help Haiti.
  • nightlight 2010/01/22 03:22:40
    No, absurd.
    nightlight
    +2
    In calling the Haiti earthquake a divine punishment, Pat Robertson is trying to use a natural diasater to scare people into keeping their faith.
  • wildbill nightlight 2010/07/23 04:51:01
    wildbill
    I have actually heard ministers telling members of their congregation about how God was punishing them for a death in the family. Of course, this always came just before some request by the minister as a way for the family to atone for their errors. So where is the Ethics?
  • nightlight wildbill 2010/07/23 10:19:16
    nightlight
    There is no ethics. Morality has been hijacked by religion.
  • GOODBYE SODAHEAD 2010/01/17 06:42:47
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    GOODBYE SODAHEAD
    And on the other side of the spectrum, you have the ultra liberal, dictator loving, anti-American, brain dead, Danny Glover who said that the quake was caused when the Earth got angry because no agreement was reached at the Copenhagen climate change circle jerk....I mean summit.

  • Joe GOODBYE... 2010/01/17 22:12:39 (edited)
    Joe
    I highly doubt that climate change holds that much bearing on seismic activity. Hurricane activity, maybe. But not earthquakes. I admit that's a stupid thing for Glover to say.
  • wildbill Joe 2011/01/20 02:01:21
    wildbill
    I agree.
    At the same time, I don't think anyone practicing voodoo in Haiti has much bearing on seismic activity either. :-)
  • wildbill GOODBYE... 2011/01/20 01:56:33
    wildbill
    Actually you may have a point I can agree with.
    Pat Robertson dosen't speak for Christians anymore than Danny Glover speaks for liberals. That is true.
  • mari 2010/01/16 21:58:12
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    mari
    +1
    Suffering is caused by sin that is why sin is wrong. But suffering can be a blessing too. We start remembering our God , repent and we can get back with him. Suffering can also make us strong and learn from our mistakes. Then there is another part of suffering that we don't understand. Job's suffering. Job was a man considered by God as like no other. He is very godly and God blessed him with everything good. But He allowed Job to lose everything when satan challenged God claiming that Job was just faithful to him because he had no adversities. In the end God proved to the whole mankind and satan that no matter how much suffering his faithful servant had endured, Job praised and trusted God. this was God's reason to reward Job all his losses and gave them all back many times over because he has proven to be his faithful servant. We are not here to judge the people of Haiti. that is God's work. We can pray for them because surely there are many believers in that country. For those who have sinned, may they repent and change their ways and return to God. For those who were faithful, may they be strong and be comforted. for those who don't know God may they start knowing Him and trust in Him. he is in control. For those who can help and pray, this is your chance to do the j...
    Suffering is caused by sin that is why sin is wrong. But suffering can be a blessing too. We start remembering our God , repent and we can get back with him. Suffering can also make us strong and learn from our mistakes. Then there is another part of suffering that we don't understand. Job's suffering. Job was a man considered by God as like no other. He is very godly and God blessed him with everything good. But He allowed Job to lose everything when satan challenged God claiming that Job was just faithful to him because he had no adversities. In the end God proved to the whole mankind and satan that no matter how much suffering his faithful servant had endured, Job praised and trusted God. this was God's reason to reward Job all his losses and gave them all back many times over because he has proven to be his faithful servant. We are not here to judge the people of Haiti. that is God's work. We can pray for them because surely there are many believers in that country. For those who have sinned, may they repent and change their ways and return to God. For those who were faithful, may they be strong and be comforted. for those who don't know God may they start knowing Him and trust in Him. he is in control. For those who can help and pray, this is your chance to do the job and invest in eternal things. For those hypocrites who think this is their chance to get noticed and enhance their image in the world or for political power, I feel sorry for you because you will be judged by God in the end and you will be shamed.
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  • Joe mari 2010/01/17 22:15:02
    Joe
    Hmm. Whattaya kow? A Christian answer I kinda like. Thanks for your comment.
  • wildbill mari 2010/07/23 04:40:39
    wildbill
    I always wondered about God's reaction to what the devil said about Job. It always seemed to me that the devil was USING God. Playing Him. Why should God have to PROVE ANYTHING to the devil? After all, Job took the brunt of this conversation big time? He lost everything. Is God's ego that large that HE HAD to USE JOB to make HIS point? Dosen't seem to be an ethical way to USE one of your biggest supporters.
  • Joe wildbill 2010/07/23 05:03:38
    Joe
    True. Very Faustian.
  • Superpepsiman20 2010/01/16 00:26:14
    Yes, God is punishing Haiti for their wickedness.
    Superpepsiman20
    +1
    And the same will happen here if things keep going the way they are.
  • riceron... Superpe... 2010/01/16 13:09:47
  • Joe Superpe... 2010/01/16 20:22:37 (edited)
    Joe
    Exactly what do you expect would happen to indicate that "things" are turning around in the way you, Pat Robertson and Jesus want them to?
  • wildbill Superpe... 2010/01/19 06:07:03 (edited)
    wildbill
    +1
    Albert Mohler, the Southern Baptist Convention


    Now several questions come into play: will Robertson himself issue some defense for his righteous intolerance and the denigration of an entire country? Probably not: his "apologies" for condemnation have, in the past, been choreographed rather sloppily, giving the impression that he doesn't really care what people think.

    Another question lies in the context of which his "philanthropy" is placed: is he really just a benevolent but senile old man? This is getting to be his milieu-du jour. He may not like it, but the public is becoming increasingly annoyed at his utterings and mutterings. When you mention his name, eyes roll and people get that What-the-hell-is-that-old-coo... Look: "Did he leg-press an elephant this time?" "Which town is going to get a fearsome meteor shower because someone hung a gay rainbow flag in front of their home?" "What did God tell him this time? Any good bets on the fifth at the racetrack?" And at the end of each instance, Robertson seems oblivious to the contempt at which he is held. Senility can create an alternate reality for some people.
  • hazelg 2010/01/15 18:29:40
    No, absurd.
    hazelg
    +5
    Why do you imbeciles keep spouting GOD THIS...GOD THAT...this is total BS on you RWNJs part. An earthquake is a natural disaster, and natural disasters come from nature. Don't you realize that this earth was formed long before you ever heard of a God, and for you to try to blame these disasters on God makes a mockery of your God and you.
  • CantSta... hazelg 2010/01/15 20:04:11
    CantStandBy
    +1
    The earth was formed by God. He created everything in it and can use anything in it he wants. Cant you express your ideas without being angry. you sound really frustrated.
  • Joe CantSta... 2010/01/15 20:47:20
    Joe
    +2
    Do you really think that God WANTS to slaughter tens of thousands of His children?
  • Steelan... Joe 2010/01/16 03:12:13
    Steelangel 凸 Metal Up 凸
    for following satan? Maybe.
  • Joe Steelan... 2010/01/16 08:47:31
    Joe
    Your God's a sadist.
  • Steelan... Joe 2010/01/16 18:52:57
    Steelangel 凸 Metal Up 凸
    He's your God too, be careful what you call him, you might get to meet his rival god careful meet rival
  • Snowflo... Steelan... 2010/01/25 04:25:40
    Snowflower55
    +2
    Steelan, Satan is not God's rival. God caste him out of heaven because he was rebellious, and man directly disobeyed God, even though they knew he had told them not to eat the Forbidden Fruit. All humans must suffer because of this, but it's not as if God lets Satan run amok. God could wipe Satan off the face of the universe if he wanted, but he doesn't, because he promised he would one day take the world back from Satan. Satan has no power over God. And you don't earn salvation from being good. You are given it by trusting in Jesus Christ as a savior sent to earth to take the punishment for all man's sin.
  • Joe Joe 2010/01/16 20:24:34
    Joe
    "His rival" made Steelangel block me so that I can't respond to your idiocy! I hope your house is earthquake-proofed!
  • CantSta... Joe 2010/01/16 16:21:38
    CantStandBy
    I know he doesn't want to. It's the last thing he wants to do. He gives us a choice to choose him. But when sin entered the world so did punishment for sin. Along with all the other evil we have to deal with in this world.
  • Joe CantSta... 2010/01/16 20:26:35
    Joe
    So at first He gives us a chance - At what point do you believe that God abandons diplomatic measures and decides "Ah, for-My-Sakes! Just kill them!"
  • CantSta... Joe 2010/01/16 21:59:06
    CantStandBy
    Haha...it's not quite that simple. Even if I had all the answers to that it would prob fill up this page. I know that god is sovereign and he has a reason for everything he does. Some people recieve punishment in this life and others not until after death in hell. And I can't tell you how he decides that. But he's not standing up there with his sceptor waiting to off somebody.
  • Joe CantSta... 2010/01/17 22:16:51
    Joe
    I see. That sounds like a much more viable thing to believe than just straight "God punishes us because we're bad" answer.
  • hazelg CantSta... 2010/01/16 04:57:41
    hazelg
    +3
    I am not angry nor frustrated, but christianity is how old, and the universe is how old. the numbers do not compute. The bible was written and interpreted by man and to me it is fact, fantasy, fiction to control the followers of each religion, not matter what they call their 'good book'.
  • riceron... hazelg 2010/01/16 13:12:06
  • CantSta... riceron... 2010/01/17 01:39:47
    CantStandBy
    Can you please tell me Mickey mouse how I am a fanatical hypocrite? I don't think I have shown fanatical characteristics by having discussion. And being a hypocrite would mean I don't practice what I preach. So how would you know whether or not I live out my faith?

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