Our infidel Founding-Father Thomas Jefferson was recently banned by the Christian Talibans in the “buckle of the Bible-belt”, Texas, from the curriculum. Do you agree with the party of God?
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In other words - DO NOT PRAY IN PUBLIC. This statement is a metaphor, a "parable". Surely christians understand parables!
This verse alone will keep every christian on the planet out of the heaven they hold so dear. Churches are not monastaries. They are public buildings. Anyone & everyone is welcome. The moment they go private, they can be considered a cult.
Cyberdisinhibition - This is what happens to humans separated from others by a computer screen. The Internet undermines the quality of human interaction, allowing destructive emotional impulses freer rein under specific circumstances. The reason is a neural fluke that results in cyberdisinhibition of brain systems that keep our more unruly urges in check. Communication via the Internet can mislead the brain’s social systems. The key mechanisms are in the prefrontal cortex. In order for this regulatory mechanism to operate well, you depend on real-tim...
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In other words - DO NOT PRAY IN PUBLIC. This statement is a metaphor, a "parable". Surely christians understand parables!
This verse alone will keep every christian on the planet out of the heaven they hold so dear. Churches are not monastaries. They are public buildings. Anyone & everyone is welcome. The moment they go private, they can be considered a cult.
Cyberdisinhibition - This is what happens to humans separated from others by a computer screen. The Internet undermines the quality of human interaction, allowing destructive emotional impulses freer rein under specific circumstances. The reason is a neural fluke that results in cyberdisinhibition of brain systems that keep our more unruly urges in check. Communication via the Internet can mislead the brain’s social systems. The key mechanisms are in the prefrontal cortex. In order for this regulatory mechanism to operate well, you depend on real-time, ongoing feedback from the other person. The Internet has no means of allowing such real-time feedback (other than with rarely used two-way audio/visual streams). This results in disinhibition: impulse unleashed. This disinhibition becomes far more likely when people feel strong negative emotions. What fails to be inihibited are the impulses those emotions generate. This phenomenon has been recognized since the earliest days of the Internet…as ‘flaming’: the tendency to send abrasive, angry, or otherwise emotionally ‘off’ cybermessages.
Christdisinhibition
You tell everyone you're a christian & then any sins you commit, you simply ask your god for forgiveness & everything's ok - all your sins are washed away & you can't be held responsible for them anymore. This is commonly known as "License to sin". Romans 8:33
What happened to the part about "atoning for your sins"? Where did that go? Christians don't do that anymore.
Christians think they're seperated from "sin", so they look down on everyone who isn't a christian - everyone who doesn't believe what they believe. They even infight between denominations.
Christians want to remove the power of the U.S. Constitution so they can have another "inquisition".
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Has anyone out there ever heard of the God Helmet?
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What if this was made wi-fi? What if this was connected up to global satellites?
Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
When you combine religion with government, you force a whole belief system on people who might not feel the same way & it could bring to life dissensions that can take decades, even centuries to resolve. Talk about disharmony!
So make sure you vote someone into office that's so sure of their beliefs that they'd be willing to take away other people's 1st Amendment rights.
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When religion & government join forces, they prostitute each other. When church and state combine religious tyranny rules.
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Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
When you combine religion with government, you force a whole belief system on people who might not feel the same way & it could bring to life dissensions that can take decades, even centuries to resolve. Talk about disharmony!
So make sure you vote someone into office that's so sure of their beliefs that they'd be willing to take away other people's 1st Amendment rights.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/...
When religion & government join forces, they prostitute each other. When church and state combine religious tyranny rules.
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Seeking Religious Freedom Only for Themselves: The first settlers came to America in 1620 and in the years shortly thereafter. They came here primarily to escape religious persecution, BUT, in direct contradiction to the stories being peddled by the fundamentalist Christians, THEY DID NOT COME HERE TO ESTABLISH RELIGIOUS FREEDOM! Those early American Christians were seeking religious freedom only for themselves. One of the first things they did upon arrival in America was set up their own version of religious tyranny.
The Flat Earth: The roman Catholic Church burned Nicholas Copernicus at the stake and imprisoned Galileo for life for the heinous crime of saying the Earth was round.
The Crusades: Thousands died in fruitless Christian-provoked wars to save the holy land for the infidels.
The Spanish Inquisition: The entire economic and social structure of Spain was destroyed by the Roman Catholic Church in its war against Jews and everybody else who was not Catholic.
Religious Bigotry: Christians claim exclusive access to God. Christians Claim that their Bible is the only sacred text that God ever wrote. Some Christians even claim infallibility when in comes to speaking about God. If you think about these claims for even a moment, it's easy to notice their utter absurdity.
Selling Indulgences: Selling indulgences was an ingenious money-making scam set up by the early Roman Catholic Church. Here's how it worked (works to this day). The person gave The Roman Catholic Pope money and God forgave the giver-of-the-money for his sins. It was a money-back-guaranteed, ticket to heaven.
I googled "pandemic synonyms". I was suprised to see a certain word that was synonymous with it - catholic!
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Calvinism might well be the single most vile religion on the planet. It's *much* worse than Satanism. If they were looking for people who've made positive contributions to Western thought, they'd have been better off using Hitler and Anton LaVey than Calvin.
I appreciate you making the effort.
I don't write this to castigate him (he's one of my biggest heroes). But rather to remind myself that even the best people make mistakes.
I repeat: he's one of my few heroes. He was also a rich slave owner who hated slavery and owned them anyway. And died deeply in debt.
I'm still trying to decide whether that last part is what I love or hate about him the most. Parents screw their children over by making life too easy for them.
I think this is what went wrong with the Baby Boomers.
Thomas Jefferson was a man and had his flaws just as any man does. But it is my opinion that to compare him to "GWB" is blasphemy.
Not all that debt was his fault.
"Thomas Jefferson bore the burden of substantial monetary debt throughout his life. Except for a brief period at the beginning of the nineteenth century,[1] it was not possible to declare bankruptcy and it was his reputation in large part that kept creditors at bay. While debt was not unusual for Virginia planters of his time, his eventually grew so ponderous that his family were forced to sell much of his property, including Monticello, after Jefferson's death. His grandson and executor of his estate, Thomas Jefferson Randolph, posted an advertisement for his estate sale, indicating that Jefferson's debts at his death amounted to $107,000. Converting this figure into a modern estimate is an inexact process at best, but it would probably be somewhere between $1,000,000 and $2,000,000.
Many factors contributed to Jefferson's indebtedness, many of them beyond his control. These are only a few reasons behind the accumulation of his debt:
Jefferson inherited a great deal of debt from his father-in-law, John Wayles, when Wayles died in 1774.
Although Jefferson was wealt...
Thomas Jefferson was a man and had his flaws just as any man does. But it is my opinion that to compare him to "GWB" is blasphemy.
Not all that debt was his fault.
"Thomas Jefferson bore the burden of substantial monetary debt throughout his life. Except for a brief period at the beginning of the nineteenth century,[1] it was not possible to declare bankruptcy and it was his reputation in large part that kept creditors at bay. While debt was not unusual for Virginia planters of his time, his eventually grew so ponderous that his family were forced to sell much of his property, including Monticello, after Jefferson's death. His grandson and executor of his estate, Thomas Jefferson Randolph, posted an advertisement for his estate sale, indicating that Jefferson's debts at his death amounted to $107,000. Converting this figure into a modern estimate is an inexact process at best, but it would probably be somewhere between $1,000,000 and $2,000,000.
Many factors contributed to Jefferson's indebtedness, many of them beyond his control. These are only a few reasons behind the accumulation of his debt:
Jefferson inherited a great deal of debt from his father-in-law, John Wayles, when Wayles died in 1774.
Although Jefferson was wealthy in land and slaves, farming proved to be an unreliable and inadequate source of income. Also, although Jefferson himself was a major creditor, payments owed to him were unreliable and inadequate as well.
Jefferson lived perpetually beyond his means, spending large amounts of money on building projects, furnishings, wine , etc.
The financial panic that occurred in 1819 added a substantial burden onto his already-substantial debt. Also, he acquired debt from a friend in particular late in life. In 1818, Jefferson endorsed a $20,000 note for Wilson Cary Nicholas. Nicholas died in 1820, and Jefferson was forced to take on his unpaid debt."
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I am absolutely *not* talking smack about my biggest hero. This is really just a reminder that we all have human flaws.
Jefferson cosigned for Wilson Cary Nicholas, the amount was twenty thousand dollars. How could he have known the man would die? Of course he could have said no and not cosigned but if the man was dependable and Jefferson knew he would repay the money it is understandable that he would sign.
Quibble 1: Congress didn't take anything out of the Declaration. Congress didn't exist at the time.
Quibble 2: Jefferson didn't have anything to do with the Constitution. He was busy being Ambassador in France at the time. If he'd been here, I'm pretty certain he'd have been an Anti-Federalist and world history would be drastically different.
Actual disagreement:
I think Madison led the Continental Congress which took the country created by Jefferson's vision down a different path. The commoners were getting too uppity and threatening the rich. So the Constitution provided a compromise. I don't think Jefferson would have agreed, but I think he'd have accepted the results.
Lincoln seems (to me) to be almost anti-Jefferson. Between his election and swearing-in, he worked feverishly to derail yet another compromise in the works that would have delayed Secession yet again. Jefferson was firmly in favor of States' rights to Secede. I think Lincoln probably was a true Abolitionist, but he'd have gone to war with the North if they'd been the States who actually Seceded.
Lincoln very definitely did *not* believe that it's possible for people with different skin colors to live side-by-side...
Quibble 1: Congress didn't take anything out of the Declaration. Congress didn't exist at the time.
Quibble 2: Jefferson didn't have anything to do with the Constitution. He was busy being Ambassador in France at the time. If he'd been here, I'm pretty certain he'd have been an Anti-Federalist and world history would be drastically different.
Actual disagreement:
I think Madison led the Continental Congress which took the country created by Jefferson's vision down a different path. The commoners were getting too uppity and threatening the rich. So the Constitution provided a compromise. I don't think Jefferson would have agreed, but I think he'd have accepted the results.
Lincoln seems (to me) to be almost anti-Jefferson. Between his election and swearing-in, he worked feverishly to derail yet another compromise in the works that would have delayed Secession yet again. Jefferson was firmly in favor of States' rights to Secede. I think Lincoln probably was a true Abolitionist, but he'd have gone to war with the North if they'd been the States who actually Seceded.
Lincoln very definitely did *not* believe that it's possible for people with different skin colors to live side-by-side in equality. He spent a lot of political capital trying to set up foreign colonies to house freed slaves.
During the war, Lincoln turned into a bloody-handed tyrant. He suspended habeus corpus, freedom of the press, and threatened Supreme Court justices with arbitrary imprisonment for disagreeing with him. It's nearly impossible to track down the numbers, but a lot of Union soldiers got hanged for attempted desertion.
I recently ran across a speech by Gingrich where he presented his latest "Contract". He quoted from one of Lincoln's speeches. Lincoln (paraphrasing) more or less said "America is at a terrible crossroads. No one could have predicted how bloody and awful this war would become. We persevere and shape a radically different future for America."
This America that resulted was brutally different than anything Madison or Jefferson (or any of the other Founding Fathers except that traitor Hamilton) envisioned. Ultimately, it's the one in which we live today.
This is just my opinion, of course. And I completely and totally respect yours and your Right to it and its expression.
If you've already considered these facts, please don't feel any obligation to re-examine them. No one agrees with anyone else all the time. I certainly don't want to endanger a friendship about something as arbitrary and academic as speculating about the motives of historical figures. If these are new perspectives that you'd like to explore for yourself, I'll be happy to dig up links. If you'd like to discuss them, I'm confident that you and I can do so politely and respectfully, probably in PMs. Who knows? Maybe we can each enrich the other's view of reality.
Ultimately, that's my goal here on SH.
BTW, I very much *do* value your friendship.