Our Delegates want the Lawsuit: Why are we Fighting it?
There are numerous misconceptions about the lawsuit that are worthy of clarifying. Foremost in this regard is that this suit has nefarious origins and is, thus, an act of subterfuge. Nothing could be further than the truth. In fact, this is strictly an action by Ron Paul voters. In other words, it is an entirely grassroots action. There are no illicit groups involved. Plus, it is an action taken by Ron Paul delegates of their own free will.
For that reason alone it is worthy of support.
Another misconception is that somehow this legal action will hurt our delegates or that it will, perhaps, disqualify them. This, too, is baseless. In fact, it is the opposite of the suit’s nature. The entire purpose of the suit is to prevent the criminal regime, which operates the election process, to do just that: use intimidation and coercion to disqualify and obstruct Ron Paul delegates.
Equally deceiving is this presumption, commonly posted on Ron Paul-friendly sites:
The RNC will disqualify all delegates who are party to the lawsuit, because they have the power to disqualify anyone who sues them. So, if our delegates are party to the lawsuit, they will be disqualified.
No doubt, such postings would create great fear in Ron Paul supporters. Yet, is this true? Our delegates already live in fear of this occurring: without the lawsuit. Even so, if this legal action prevails, than protecting the delegates from any such action will be the precise consequence.
The treachery against Ron Paul and his delegates is pervasive. Yet, it isn’t the lawsuit which is causing this treachery. It is instead the RNC. Moreover, the lawsuit is directed precisely and surgically against this organization. Thus, to attempt to derail the suit is equivalent to siding with the RNC itself: not a logical option.
The war against this movement comes mainly from without. Yet, it has also arisen to a degree from within. There were even saboteurs who struck from within the Ron Paul campaign.
Others are apparently working for the enemy, while operating under the illusion of “Ron Paul supporters, directors, and coordinators.” One notable example is Monica Serrano. This woman has attempted to completely undermine Arkansas’ six RP delegates/alternates. Incredibly, she has attempted to coerce them into voting for Romney. Fortunately, one very wise delegate exposed her plots, writing the following post on the DailyPaul: http://97.65.137.56/242142/treachery-in-arkansas. This was followed by a shrewdly written letter, while admittedly powerful, written by attorney Richard Gilbert in defense of the delegates. In this letter Serrano was warned of her potentially incriminating acts, which amounted to coercion of the delegates.
The letter, while strongly worded, is a mere counter to Serrano’s equally strongly worded emails. Moreover, while the Serrano letters were directed against our delegates the Gilbert letter is a defense for these same Arkansas delegates.
The Serrano letter/email was a means of treachery. Worse than this, as pointed out by Gilbert, it was actually a criminal act. So, clearly, the Gilbert response was rather than the initiation of aggression merely a legal and calculated response to aggression.
That helps people keep this in perspective, considering the fact that for many within the Paul camp there has been an inflammatory response to the letter.
Yet, what is the real basis for this and legal salvo? Here is an excerpt from DP’er Westfall’s post regarding the back-and-forth emails from Serrano to the delegates/alternates:
She (Serrano) then went on to CLAIM that the Ron Paul campaign wanted us to vote for Romney on the first ballot:
“I DO know for sure the campaign does NOT want you voting Paul on the first ballot. JOHN TATE SAID SO (notice the emphasis)” … for the umpteenth thousandth time! He said specifically you would cause damage…here is what John Tate told Doug and Doug cced me
<< REDACTED Private email >>”
Yet, according to Westfall:
“When I contacted the campaign to verify this (I have every intention of supporting them–whatever their plan is), I got a response indicating these instructions may not have come from the national campaign.”
This is merely one example of coercion and intimidation. Everyone knows of the Massachusetts debacle. Then, there is Arizona, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Georgia, and Virginia: all involved the suppression of the delegates’ human and civil rights. In some cases violence was perpetrated against Ron Paul people, while in no instances did they commit such violence.
Thus, who should we support? Should we attack the lawyer, who is defending the inalienable rights of the delegates, or should we find sympathy/support for the individual, Monica Serrano, who is committing high crimes against the delegates’ rights? Surely, we must support exclusively any effort to protect our delegates, especially regarding all criminal acts committed against them.
If we don’t stand behind the delegates, then, who will. We expect them to do the lion’s share of the work for the freedom movement. Then, too, isn’t such an attack essentially an attack against the delegates–every one of them, who has joined the lawsuit?
Yet, when they are knocked down and tormented, by viciously attacking their legal representatives, what do we do? Do we not fail them? Then, if this is our behavior, what is our purpose, here? The lawyer is standing at their side, supporting them in every way, and we are going to attack him? Shouldn’t the attitude be that at the minimum the lawyer for the delegates should be left alone and surely not attacked—for the sake of our delegates—even if we disagree with him?
Isn’t this the minimum: to publically support the delegates and their suit and not excoriate their legal counsel with whom they are confortable and whom they have selected?
Moreover, those who might find disagreement with the legal approach must realize a simple fact: any defensive or offensive actions have been requested from Ron Paul supporters, including delegates.
Opponents of the lawsuit
No doubt, there are numerous opponents of this lawsuit. In this regard a wide range of fears and concerns are being raised. After all, politics is an emotional business and can readily lead to dissent, similar to that seen in religious beliefs. Many opponents sincerely believe that there is great danger due to this suit. Others are not so concerned about such harm, that is to the Ron Paul campaign but, rather, to the damage it will do to the existing regime. Thus, the entire purpose of such individuals is to derail the effort. This is despite the fact that the most serious, dedicated of all Ron Paul supporters, the delegates and alternates, have vigorously supported it.
However, the whole issue has been made far too complex. This is a highly productive, and protective, action. It is also an essential action in order to combat a simple fact. Consistently, all year long Ron Paul has been cheated out of delegates. According to Alaska Republican and Ron Paul supporter Sean Godfrey:
“…the purpose of the lawsuit is simply to show that all delegates are unbound…If the delegate binding is allowed to remain in place, Romney gets the nomination.”
This is, perhaps, the best summary of the need and power of this suit. Now, it becomes clear why there is so much resistance against it. That is because if this suit succeeds Ron Paul will almost assuredly become President.
Agents provacateur
Throughout the Internet, including on Ron Paul-friendly sites, particularly the DailyPaul, there are numerous individuals who are posting against the lawsuit. Some of these individuals post repetitively, seeking to minimize any support or interest. Frequently, when any post is created in support of this case, such a thread is viciously attacked by this battery of posters.
In some cases the posters spread categorical lies. In other cases they tell half-truths. In still others they maliciously distort information, essentially to demean and slander, that is to create doubt. In still others they maliciously attack those in support of this action, even resorting to cursing and name-calling. This seems to be their day-job as well as full-fledged night-time activity. Surely, some of these individuals are paid to create such mayhem.
By provacateur what is mean is to provoke a response, while simultaneously creating doubt. Thus, this article will not deal with the responses to such provocative posts but only to the posts themselves, since it is through studying these acts that the intent of the opposition can be revealed. Some of their slanderous statements are as follows:
“They’re the moronically named Facebook group”
“Then, riddle me this, the dumb-a__ attorney likes to write these ‘quotes’ every 2 minutes on Twitter…”
“Why is the idiot attributing this ‘quote’, to Ron Paul?”
“So, here’s a question, shill, is Richard Gilbert deliberately being that open about trying to undermine Dr. Paul, or is he just your average, garden-variety idiot?”
“Just another FACT as to the “character” of this shady dude.”
Other mudslinging against Mr. Gilbert includes the following denigrations:
lawyer bot
lawsuit bot
lawyer bot 3000
Bot, by the way, indicates parasite, therefore, “parasitic lawyer.”
Can anyone imagine this degree of venom being directed at anyone, let alone the delegates’ own preferred attorney?
There was apparent even more severe attack against this attorney, where a reference was made to an article by Michael Nystrom, “Kill the Buddha.” That message was directed to Mr. Gilbert. Was this a veiled threat? It cannot be ruled out, considering the nature of the other nefarious–and malicious–attacks.
Consider also the following approach, which is clearly an attempt to create doubt:
“There is a certain somebody involved, whose problems with the USGov, have put them in a compromised position. Here’s where we are starting to enter some murkier water and I will leave it at that.”
A certain someone? Could it get any more vague that this?
On Paulbotradio one antagonist stated that there are ulterior designs to the lawsuit, and that it is headed by “the RNC.” In an equally ludicrous ploy on the Daily Paul one poster insinuated that “Karl Rove” was likely behind the lawsuit, when, immediately, yet another suspect poster backed this up.
Such statements border on the ridiculous if not ludicrous. Does anyone realize how bizarre this is? That regardless of any agreements with an individual, to call an attorney such names and to denigrate such a person maliciously in this way—a man practicing on the bar for some 33 years, who has never endured even a single professional complaint: that is unheard of.
Then, there is this:
KING RICHARD…off to the Crusades everyone…follow me!
The crazy lawyer was threatening rp4pres, me (that is zsh ninja)
Does anyone see the pattern, the denigration, the name-calling, the sowing of doubt and confusion?
Just consider official FBI files about agents provocateur, now known as COINTELPRO agents. As reported by liberty activist John Perna:
The FBI COINTELPRO program was initiated in 1956. Its purpose, as described later by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, was “to expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize activities” of those individuals and organizations whose ideas or goals he opposed. Tactics included: falsely labelling individuals as informants; infiltrating groups with persons instructed to disrupt the group; sending anonymous or forged letters designed to promote strife between groups…
Yet, it doesn’t stop here. More strong-handed tactics are often perpetrated. These tactics include:
Initiating politically motivated IRS investigations, carrying out burglaries of offices and unlawful wiretaps, and disseminating to other government agencies and to the media unlawfully obtained derogatory information on individuals and groups.
Here is an excellent example of just that kind of denigration or shall we say “neutralization:”
“yes, he’s not only incompetent, but he’s either misleading you for an ulterior motive, or he’s suffering from some delusions of grandeur, or he’s skiing the snow-white Orange County slopes in June.”
Those are not words of a normal person but, rather, of an espionage agent, which fits every profile as mentioned in the FBI files. The names of these posters are not given, because they run amok anonymously. Moreover, and when they do provide a name, that turns out to be false. When asked to provide their real names and addresses, they refuse to do so. Yet, they constantly attack those who have full transparency, including attorney Richard Gilbert.
They also attack and malign any productive effort to take action on behalf of Ron Paul supporters, never offering any solution or alternative.
Predictions that the lawsuit will fail and other wishful thinking
There is another commonality of the lawsuit detractors. The antagonists seem to gloat in glee at the thought of the collapse or failure of this effort, as follows:
“Truly, it is like watching a slow-motion train wreck”
“Yes…but there are not nearly as many of them as we are led to believe.”
“The thing is dying out somewhat. Truly ridiculous.”
“Awesome! I’m glad we found somewhere to store all our peanuts, because this guy is a genuine ‘nut-case’”
“…this case is a really bad strategic move.”
“When the ship is sinking, The rats will be the first to jump off. Ask any mariner, he’ll affirm this. The captain is the last one to exit.”
Need for the lawsuit
The lawsuit is necessary to prevent our delegates from being further brutalized by the RNC. Another reason for its essentiality is the potential lack of “plurality” in five states, since, continuously, this criminal cabal has attempted to undermine any bona fide wins. Nevertheless, this need couldn’t be better summarized than by this national delegate, posting on the Daily Paul:
“I was disenfranchised, segregated, bullied, threatened, intimidated, and coerced at my county convention.”
Then, what about Henry Herford, delegate and Parliamentarian, who despite his vocal and clear warnings to the criminals about his obvious handicap, was wrestled to the ground, suffering who knows how many injuries. Regarding Mr. Helwig: enduring torture by raw thugs his fingers were mangled so severely that they were snapped (broken).
Does anyone think that this won’t happen in Tampa? The thugs and ruffians will be there in force: all aimed at the Dr. Paul delegates.
Think about it. What are the risks to our delegates without extensive protection? We have asked people to step up to the role and fight for our freedoms. Now, it is time to prove our willingness to fight. It’s time to stand up for our delegates and no one else. They have chosen the legal remedy. We either need to stand on their sides, or get out of the way.
Do we know the degree of their trepidation and fear? Here is what one delegate said in a private message to the attorney, after suffering extreme intimidation:
“I am banking on the fact that you have told me that I have nothing to worry about and the protection of the marshalls, which is why I am pleased to be a plaintiff in this case.”
Our delegates live in fear. Let’s make sure they have nothing to fear by putting our fullest energy behind this lawsuit and helping them gain federal protection.
Is hatred against the attorney the same as hatred against the delegates?
The posts directed against this lawsuit and its attorney has been vitriolic to say the least. Yet, none of the antagonistic posters have been actual delegates in the case. Regardless, here is what one Ron Paul supporter said about this issue:
“Why the hate of Mr.Gilbert? You think he isn’t capable? Are You? And do you know someone capable willing to do it pro-bono? I just don’t get all the contempt, all the complaining, if HALF the effort was put into a more ideal plan that would please you all, that has been put into bashing LFRP, imagine the type of force we would be.”
Curiously, Mr. Gilbert is perhaps the only person in this freedom movement, other than Ron Paul, who has been the subject of such extensive ridicule. Every conceivable slander and abuse has been heaped upon him. This has even been done by apparently well-meaning Ron Paul supporters. The fact that he is being so viciously attacked should be a sign to everyone that this man is on to something, a something very big indeed. “Thou doth protest too much,” way too much, “oh sons and daughters of darkness.” Yet, God and His angels are singing the same tune, which is that the forces of good shall overcome the forces of evil—and Ron Paul shall win the presidency of the United States. Richard Gilbert and the Lawyers for Ron Paul are just one more major force of good holding firm against those powers of evil. Let’s give them all our love and support, not cut them into ribbons.
Addendum: Deadline for testimony extended: 3:00 p.m. EST, July 11
It’s not too late to join this action. Plantiff cases are closed. However, anyone can join through testimony. A voter/delegate can still submit his/her testimony of election fraud and disenfranchisement until the new deadline: 3:00 p.m. July 11th.
Anyone who wishes to submit written testimony in support of the delegates as having the right to vote their conscience can do so.
So can anyone who wishes to submit testimony of being brutalized, tormented, chased, physically accosted, or other. The testimony should be submitted in writing or typed and signed.
It must be submitted by fax, directly to the attorney: it can be added as evidence
1-714-667-2388
1-561-658-0826
It can only be faxed, signed: no other option, because the fax shows the signature in a legally acceptable fashion.
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