I was watching that on Friday and laughing my butt off at how quickly Sarah jumped back in Bob's chili, with a smile.
She has responded to that same attack so many times, she has it down pat.
The original 0bozoTax bill was HR 3200, which is the one she exposed the death panels back in 2009.
After many re-writes of the bill, a new label of HR 3590, it finally emerged for it's final bribing through Congress with the death panel cut down from 28 members to a panel of 15 and some brand new camouflaged wording to conceal operation Soylent Green.
Ouch! Sarah Palin Slaps Down Bob Beckel on Death Panels.
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Are those lucky enough to have health insurance too special to maybe have to wait an extra day or two to see their doctor so that 30 million other hard-working Americans have access to health care? Oh - that's right - it's the RIGHT's way. Me - Me - to hell with everyone else.
The fear-tactic of rationing being fed to the American people via the health insurance companies is just nonsensical.
Ok. IM not talking about there not being docs nurses yadda yadda (which actually there are more than a few doctors and practices that gave warnings/notices that they would close here, im talking about instead of the doctor deciding which treatment is best for you the Gov will be determining that by setting specific regulations , Instead of individual ins agencies competing for your business (stimulating economy naturally) by what they offer, you will be forced to take what you are given, which will be rationed and not by any means "Free", Bad for business and bad for Freedom! the stock market dropped about 130 points after the Supreme Court decision on Obamacare. It’s a major new spending entitlement that’s already pegged at $2.5 trillion and will increase the federal debt burden much faster than the GDP expands. In other words, tax, spend, regulate, borrow.
Bankrupting the economy is not exactly a job-creator.
Not to mention,The idea of having an unelected panel of bureaucrats determining fundamental decisions about our individual health care is perhaps the most disgusting intrusion in our lives. Not to foget the major 500 billion dollar cuts to medicare. And what is constitutional about someone paying a penalty for not Purhasing a specific HC coverage??? Nothing~
Or you can just check this article it is the most factual i have found economically and realisitcally for the conclusion Obamacare will cause for Businesses ,Ins Companies, and Inevitably patients.
http://seekingalpha.com/artic...
Have you even feasted your peepers on the bill and seen how the Federal goobermint claims to absorb the added costs yet shifts them onto the states in 'progressive' fashion over the years?
Do you think this will magically allow all Emergency rooms to get paid for services by the patient that the general public has been paying for?
Where do you think all those whose employers drop their group plan will go?
They may have to pay the fine (Tax) themselves but wont be flocking to join a govt. run exchange if they cannot afford it.
What about the 13-17 Million who will fall between the cracks?
Those who work part-time, make too much to qualify for Medicaid yet cannot afford a policy without an employers help?
How bout those who are young, well off, and simply opt to pay the fine, and hit the Emergency room for that broken arm, high fever or phantom rash that wasn't there yesterday? There isn't any option for catastrophic policies either. Where is there any incentive to sign up for the goobermint plan if one can get by with paying a fine of $700 - $2,000 per year and receive $10,000 per year in Emergency room costs that are passed onto taxpayers?
You see..... the system is designed to collapse on purpose because it does nothing more tha...
Have you even feasted your peepers on the bill and seen how the Federal goobermint claims to absorb the added costs yet shifts them onto the states in 'progressive' fashion over the years?
Do you think this will magically allow all Emergency rooms to get paid for services by the patient that the general public has been paying for?
Where do you think all those whose employers drop their group plan will go?
They may have to pay the fine (Tax) themselves but wont be flocking to join a govt. run exchange if they cannot afford it.
What about the 13-17 Million who will fall between the cracks?
Those who work part-time, make too much to qualify for Medicaid yet cannot afford a policy without an employers help?
How bout those who are young, well off, and simply opt to pay the fine, and hit the Emergency room for that broken arm, high fever or phantom rash that wasn't there yesterday? There isn't any option for catastrophic policies either. Where is there any incentive to sign up for the goobermint plan if one can get by with paying a fine of $700 - $2,000 per year and receive $10,000 per year in Emergency room costs that are passed onto taxpayers?
You see..... the system is designed to collapse on purpose because it does nothing more than increase costs on every level, doesn't come close to insuring everyone as claimed, and will drive states into bankruptcy because they are forced, by law to live within their yearly budget.
The ONLY way out for them is to ration care which brings us full circle to the original problem.
First - the CBO itself finally rescored the faked numbers the Democrats gave them (remember - no one actually READ the bill before it was passed) and the CBO revised the plan from 940B to 1.7T (CBO doc - http://www.cbo.gov/sites/defa... (and for those of you too lazy here is the Yahoo News version - http://news.yahoo.com/cbo-oba...
This isn't even HALF of the financial shortfalls of ObamaCare - that NOW WILL BE WORSE SINCE THE COURTS CAN NOT FORCE STATES TO PARTICIPATE.
CBO - Imposes $800 billion in tax increases, including no fewer than 12 separate provisions breaking candidate Obama's "firm pledge" during his campaign that he would not raise "any of your taxes" (Sections 9001-9016) (CBO report here - http://cbo.gov/publication/22...
ACA - Creates a board of 15 unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats to make binding rulings on how to reduce Medicare spending (Section 3403)
CBO - Requires all individuals to buy government-approved health insurance plans, imposing new mandates that will raise individual insurance premiums by an average of $2,100 per family (Section 1302) (CBO report here - http://cbo.gov/publication/41...
ACA - Forces seniors to lose their current health care, by enacting Medicare Advantage cuts that by 2017 will cut enrollment in half, and cut plan choices ...
First - the CBO itself finally rescored the faked numbers the Democrats gave them (remember - no one actually READ the bill before it was passed) and the CBO revised the plan from 940B to 1.7T (CBO doc - http://www.cbo.gov/sites/defa... (and for those of you too lazy here is the Yahoo News version - http://news.yahoo.com/cbo-oba...
This isn't even HALF of the financial shortfalls of ObamaCare - that NOW WILL BE WORSE SINCE THE COURTS CAN NOT FORCE STATES TO PARTICIPATE.
CBO - Imposes $800 billion in tax increases, including no fewer than 12 separate provisions breaking candidate Obama's "firm pledge" during his campaign that he would not raise "any of your taxes" (Sections 9001-9016) (CBO report here - http://cbo.gov/publication/22...
ACA - Creates a board of 15 unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats to make binding rulings on how to reduce Medicare spending (Section 3403)
CBO - Requires all individuals to buy government-approved health insurance plans, imposing new mandates that will raise individual insurance premiums by an average of $2,100 per family (Section 1302) (CBO report here - http://cbo.gov/publication/41...
ACA - Forces seniors to lose their current health care, by enacting Medicare Advantage cuts that by 2017 will cut enrollment in half, and cut plan choices by two-thirds (Section 3201)
ACA - Imposes a 40 percent tax on health benefits, a direct contradiction of Barack Obama’s campaign promises (Section 9001)
HHS - Imposes reductions in Medicare spending that, according to the program’s non-partisan actuary, would cause 40 percent of all Medicare providers to become unprofitable, and could lead to their exit from the program (Section 3401) (HHS Actuary - http://www.cms.gov/Research-S...
CBO - Raises premiums on more than 17 million seniors participating in Medicare Part D, so that Big Pharma can benefit from its "rock-solid deal" struck behind closed doors with President Obama and Congressional Democrats (Section 3301) (CBO doc - http://cbo.gov/publication/21...
ACA - Creates an institute to undertake research that, according to one draft Committee report prepared by Democrats, could mean that "more expensive [treatments] will no longer be prescribed" (Section 6301)
ACA - Empowers bureaucrats on a board that has ruled against mammograms and against prostate cancer screenings to make binding determinations about what types of preventive services should be covered (Sections 2713 and 4104) (Mammogram report - http://www.uspreventiveservic...
ACA - Precludes poor individuals from having a choice of health care plans by automatically dumping them in the Medicaid program (Section 1413(a))
White House - Creates a new entitlement program that one Democrat called "a Ponzi scheme of the first order, the kind of thing that Bernie Madoff would have been proud of" -- a scheme so unsustainable even the Administration was forced to admit it would not work (Section 8002) (HHS admission of failure - http://aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/Re...
Yeah - those rascally Republicans. Using CBO and Administration reports to try and "scare" people. The only thing more shameful than that - is those of you who aren't doing your own homework on this.
All links were up and running on Friday. interesting.
It doesn't matter.... the poison is throughout the bill and I call BS on your claim to have read and comprehended the entire thing.
It requires reading an additional 3,000+ pages of prior legislation that it supersedes in order to know how the changes affect the current system.
0bozoTax doesn't come close to explaining what it is and was written that way on purpose.
It takes countless hours just to find the sections that it references, much less actually read and understand them.
In addition to all that..... countless times throughout the monstrosity will one find the term "To be determined by ________"
Those disclaimers alone make it impossible for ANYONE to claim they know the entire bill because those decisions haven't even been put on paper yet.
Nice try at putting on the full court spin, though.
There is simply no feasible alternative.
That fact has been known for years now -- it's just that many of the advocates of a huge, socialistic, incremental overhaul of the health/medical industry ALSO KNOW that the public is not quite ready for that kind of reality...Left-wing Progressive, and admitted socialist, Robert Reich, sees no need to hide it, however -
She has responded to that same attack so many times, she has it down pat.
The original 0bozoTax bill was HR 3200, which is the one she exposed the death panels back in 2009.
After many re-writes of the bill, a new label of HR 3590, it finally emerged for it's final bribing through Congress with the death panel cut down from 28 members to a panel of 15 and some brand new camouflaged wording to conceal operation Soylent Green.