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Oregon Bans Native American Mascots: Should More States Do the Same?

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The Oregon Board of Education has spoken. Public schools in the state must discontinue the use of Native American mascots by July 2017—or risk the loss of state funding.

The new regulation, which bans the use of Native American names, symbols, or images as school mascots, is being described as the toughest and most far-reaching of its kind. According to Oregon officials, Wisconsin is the only other state with a similar ban, though their policy is far less stringent. In Wisconsin, if complaints are made, schools must prove that their mascots do not promote discrimination, harassment, or stereotyping.

Fifteen Oregon high schools, and an unknown number of elementary and middle schools, are impacted by the new policy. Names specifically prohibited include “Redskins,” “Savages,” “Indians,” and “Braves.” Schools that use the name “Warriors” will be allowed to continue doing so, as long as they abandon any graphics associated with Native American tribes, customs, or traditions.

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The state school board considered eight hours of public testimony and 700 written comments (400 in favor and 300 against) before voting 5-1 to accept the new policy. Individuals against the regulation argued in favor of maintaining longstanding community traditions and avoiding expensive changes in a time of tight public budgets. They also claimed that in some cases the mascots were intended as respectful tributes.

However, the state schools superintendent, Susan Castillo, argued that “intent is not enough.” She added, “We need to focus on what the impact is on our kids.”

And according to Se-ah-dom Edmo, an educator at Lewis and Clark College who testified in favor of the ban on behalf of the Oregon Indian Education Association, the impact is definitely not positive on Native American students.

“If you were like me and grew up here in Oregon and played opposing these schools that had Indian mascots, there was harm that was done there,” she said. “I think they were intending to honor native folks, but any time that you objectify a person or stereotype a group of people, which is really what the mascots did, it ceases to become a truth about them. The broader psychological impacts show lower self-esteem for native students and poor race relations.”

So SodaHeads, what do you think about Oregon’s ban on Native American mascots? Should more states do the same?

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  • Cal 2012/05/19 22:07:55
    No
    Cal
    +29
    Why exactly? Are we going to ban vikings, patriots, cowboys, and broncos next? Dumbest thing ever.

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  • TheTailor jdemme 2012/05/22 03:55:52
    TheTailor
    What high school named their team the "savages", or the "wetbacks" (a slur for Mexican migrant workers, not American Indians)?
  • johnnyg jdemme 2012/05/21 18:49:23
    johnnyg
    +1
    Which one?
  • MIchele Thomas 2012/05/21 15:28:34
    Yes
    MIchele Thomas
    +3
    Beautiful, we come, repress and entire nation of people, then use their identity as our school mascots... who wouldn't have a problem with this? (oh wait, I know... the white virus that took over everything in North America!)
  • D S MIchele... 2012/05/21 16:54:29
    D S
    +1
    We? You were part of this invasion? You should return to your homeland. And don't forget to leave a TIP on your way out!
  • MIchele... D S 2012/08/15 20:42:09
    MIchele Thomas
    1. My ancestors were involved, as were yours (unless you just moved here recently from another country, in which case why do you have an opinion?). 2. Your ancestors, (unless they were native american indians) are all from other countries. So...why are you spouting rehetoric that doesn't pertain to this discussion? Are are you familiar with Indian reservations, and the rights of people who are considered more than 25% Indian? Do you have any knowledge of or experience with past and/or ongoing persecution of American indians in regards to their position in the United States? Do you actually know what this discussion is about?!!! Just curious.
  • D S MIchele... 2012/08/15 21:03:23
    D S
    "we come, repress and entire nation of people" Sounded to me like you were on the boat. Not like your ancestors were "native american indians".
    "then use their identity as our school mascots" Again as above.
    My ancestors? They showed up here about 200 years ago. Would that make me something less than a "native american"? Lived here all my life. Folks were bore and raised here as were theirs. Were they not "native americans".
    The "rehetoric" I Spout was in direct reply to yours.
    I am not: African, Italian, French, Polish... American.
    Just plan "American". Don't need any special label.
    I try to imagine The Indian Nation sproutin from the soil like beans. I don't see it. Seems to me they showed up here from somewhere else too.

    So, how did I respond to this question, three months ago?
    I Voted "NO". And my comment was this:
    What a bunch of "P.C." "B.S." They just took away the last "Red Skin" mascot here in Maine.

    I am so sick of "Political Correctness". Sure, words can hurt but calling your team "The Chiefs or Red Skins" does no harm. There was No Malicious intent when these names were first given. If anything, they were meant to show toughness and bravery.


    Whatever...

    And to you I say, "Whatever".
  • MIchele... D S 2012/08/15 21:18:23
    MIchele Thomas
    Daughter of the American Revolution here... you are indeed a "native american" but not a "Native American Indian". And I accept your answer of "whatever" and raise you one "meh"... lol.
  • TheTailor MIchele... 2012/05/21 18:03:17
    TheTailor
    +1
    Leftist "progressives" would have a problem with it.
  • seadog6... MIchele... 2012/05/21 19:58:15
  • John Hall 2012/05/21 15:22:37
  • Tennyson James 2012/05/21 15:18:24
    Yes
    Tennyson James
    +2
    It's not so much the name that is offensive; its the caricature that goes along with it.
  • TheTailor Tennyso... 2012/05/21 18:03:38
    TheTailor
    Offensive to whom?
  • Tennyso... TheTailor 2012/05/21 20:02:11
    Tennyson James
    Those of Native American Descent who do not at all look like the stereotypical caricature of the big-nosed grim-faced red-skinned "Indian" with feathers in his hair.
  • TheTailor Tennyso... 2012/05/21 22:55:26
    TheTailor
    Was there a complaint? What's the % of the community that dislikes the caricature? What of those who are proud to see teams named after Indians in recognition of their strength?
  • Tennyso... TheTailor 2012/05/22 02:23:11
    Tennyson James
    Like I said, it's not the name; it's the caricature that is offensive. I don't know what percentage found it offensive - I'm not even sure that is relevent. What is relevent is that the comical mascots designed to play up every stereotype of "Indian" appearance are offensive to those who are actually of Native American descent.
  • TheTailor Tennyso... 2012/05/22 04:00:10
    TheTailor
    So who says that? Did some tribe members make a complaint? Of course those tribe members that like the names and caricature and are proud of it should be heard, that's why the % of those in favor or against is important. Who says these caricatures and slogans are "... designed to play up ..." anything? You?
  • Tennyso... TheTailor 2012/05/22 16:43:50
    Tennyson James
    Yes, many tribal representatives have spoken out against what is perceived by their people as slurs. Are you not familiar with the Morningstar Institute which has pursued the matter in courts? Or the National Congress of American Indians? As for who says they are designed to play up - well, look at them. They feature stereotypical and exaggerated features associated with Native Americans.
  • TheTailor Tennyso... 2012/05/22 17:58:15
    TheTailor
    Can you provide a site where it shows these groups are what you say they are, and are complaining of the things you say they are?
  • Tennyso... TheTailor 2012/05/22 22:55:56
    Tennyson James
    Goggle will pull up a number of sites. Here's alink to a chat with Suzan Harjo: http://espn.go.com/otl/americ...
  • TheTailor Tennyso... 2012/05/23 03:08:32
    TheTailor
    Interesting but she's just one and there's no showing she represents the American Indians as a whole, maybe she can speak for part of her tribe. She says "Native Americans are not monolithic, so not all of us think any one thing.", then goes on to speak like an activist in saying "The overwhelming majority of us at this time in our history see the Cleveland symbol as Little Red Sambo -- an embarrassment and shame on its promoters.". I frankly doubt she represents all American Indians, there's nothing to back up what she says.

    I frankly think this is more "politically correct" mindset than it is a real problem.
  • Tennyso... TheTailor 2012/05/23 04:06:34
    Tennyson James
    +1
    We'll have to agree to disagree. :-)
  • TheTailor Tennyso... 2012/05/23 12:22:13
    TheTailor
    +1
    I suppose so ;-)
  • Mog of War 2012/05/21 14:51:10
    No
    Mog of War
    +2
    Hmm... Repressing the Native American Culture in one of the few areas where the tribes weren't decimated, in the name of not promoting stereotypes. Yeah that's good politics.
  • Mog of War Mog of War 2012/05/21 14:52:21
    Mog of War
    +3
    P.S. Native American HERITAGE is the main reason these mascots exist.
  • Captain... Mog of War 2012/05/21 15:53:07
  • TheTailor Captain... 2012/05/21 18:05:00
    TheTailor
    Apples and oranges, the mascot wasn't what the t-shirt portrays.
  • Mog of War Captain... 2012/05/21 20:40:54
    Mog of War
    Ah, but such would not be allowed for a high school or elementary school. That nonsense goes on at a College level, which falls outside the scope of the ruling Oregon made. Not to mention those shirts were made by fans, not the organizations themselves.
  • Superman 2012/05/21 14:49:22
    No
    Superman
    +4
    Sports mascots are emblems people celebrate. Ethnic team names have been around forever and generally I don't see why one ethnicity deserves more protection than another. Vikings, Irish, Illini . . . . these are all teams that people love and support and different ethnicities that have caricatures as logos.

    Now, I do separate out some of the native American names that could be offensive. Red Skins? Indians (when the term isn't even correct)? And of course some of the logos like Chief Wahoo. I can understand the issue with that sort of stuff and I wouldn't have an issue if the NCAA wanted to crack down on specific troubling stuff like that. But those examples are from private businesses that obviously can choose to market as they see fit.

    There is no reason to create an inequative system where Fighting Illini isn't allowed as a positive emblem but Fighting Irish is. In fact, the suggestion to me sounds racist. No, we won't allow you to support images of Natives . . . you can only support the white man.

    As for this specific case, again, I think RedSkins and Indians are fine to ban. I think Savages as a term is different depending on the logo depiction. Savages can be a general term and if its portrayed as such then it shouldn't be banned. i have a huge issue with banning Braves. Brave is a very positive term in todays world. Its a positive nickname - even moreso than warrior. I don't know why you want to kill positive terminology.
  • Mog of War Superman 2012/05/21 14:54:19
    Mog of War
    The whole aim is repression. Native American Heritage is the root of these "racist" mascots. If it's off the reservation, they want every trace of Indian made invisible.
  • william keegan 2012/05/21 14:41:27
    No
    william keegan
    +1
    This is just another incident that indicates that government run schools should be closed in the US. Government run schools will emphasize just about anything other than education. Government run schools do not educate they indoctrinate! This new Oregon regulation is just another in a long line of PC BS! People had better start growing some thicker skin or this entire country will have to shut down!

    The fact that the government is willing to pay for abortion offends me, but I don’t see anyone passing laws and regulations because I am offended. Why is it we have to pander to some and not all? I suspect that the pandering is done to appease Democrat voters. If a segment is offended, evangelical Christians for example, that are not dependable Democrat party voters, the government doesn’t give a whit about their feelings. But if some predominant minority that generally supports the Democrat Party is offended, then heaven and earth will be moved to remove the offence!
  • bluelady 2012/05/21 14:18:15
    No
    bluelady
    Oregon finally crossed the dumb line.....jeeez
  • Luke 2012/05/21 14:08:25
  • Ishmael 2012/05/21 14:04:51
    No
    Ishmael
    +1
    As long as the schools embrace Natve culture. Tha Arcadia, ca. High School Apaches actually forged links with the White Mountain apache tribe in AZ. Of course, turnabout is fair play. Years ago, a group of Native American besketball players formed a team at the University of Northern Colorado in Fort Morgan called "The White Men." THEIR mascot was a pic of a generic White Guy. THEY made over $100k just in t-shirt sales financing their education.
  • CFlyJuice 2012/05/21 13:56:10
    No
    CFlyJuice
    +2
    File this one under: GET A LIFE

    The fact that schools have chosen Indians as their mascot is an honor to the great American-Indian heritage.

    Politically Correct people who have nothing better to do with their time should go out and volunteer to remove Obama this November..... 39 MILLION of your fellow Americans are on food stamps and DON'T GIVE A RATS BEHIND ABOUT SCHOOL MASCOTS BEING INDIANS.
  • Elaine Magliacane 2012/05/21 13:50:39
    No
    Elaine Magliacane
    +4
    STOOPID... freedom of speech people... we are LOSING it, word, by word.
  • Solomon... Elaine ... 2012/05/22 15:20:10
    Solomonster
    I would have raved twice... but sodahead wont let me.
  • cindy 2012/05/21 13:43:05
    No
    cindy
    +3
    Sick to death of Obama PC Bullsh*t .........................
  • D S cindy 2012/05/21 17:02:04
    D S
    I pretty sure, P.C. B.S. predates "Obama"...
  • Brad # 2486547 2012/05/21 13:23:24
    No
    Brad # 2486547
    +6
    I don't understand why. Native Americans should be flattered that they are being recognized. American Indians were brave and strong.
  • Brad # ... Brad # ... 2012/05/21 13:41:37
    Brad # 2486547
    +3
    What's next...animal mascots because some animal rights activists says that animals are being portrayed as viscious creatures and that's not fair to the animals?

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