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One SH member is continually stating "Obama has not lied about anything", is this a true statement?

Mr. T 2012/05/06 01:34:21
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  • marcuss... Carol 2012/05/06 16:18:56 (edited)
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    +2
    Can you please tell us if he is telling the truth or LYING.


  • Carol marcuss... 2012/05/06 19:13:16
    Carol
    +1
    The attack on funding for exchanges is just one of half a dozen jabs at healthcare reform included in Ryan’s new bill. (Indeed, picking away at healthcare reform has become the GOP’s go-to move for funding any new government expense, as demonstrated, yet again, by last week’s House vote to fund an extension of low interest rates on government student loans by raiding so-called Obamacare slush funds.) And as a deficit-reduction measure, the exchange defunding doesn’t offer anything close to the largest savings. For example: The provision for repealing the Prevention and Public Health Fund, an effort to reduce healthcare costs in the long run by spending more on prevention, would save $16 billion over 10 years. In the big scheme of things, a billion here or a billion there for the exchanges won’t make that much progress toward $600 billion worth of defense cuts.

    But as a targeted cut designed to cripple the long-term efficacy of the Affordable Care Act, Ryan could hardly be wielding his scalpel with more precision. It’s brilliant. The part of the ACA that one might imagine most Republicans would be ideologically predisposed to agree with — the use of free market competition to provide consumers with more choice and lower costs — is the part that Republicans want to go after.

    But ...
    The attack on funding for exchanges is just one of half a dozen jabs at healthcare reform included in Ryan’s new bill. (Indeed, picking away at healthcare reform has become the GOP’s go-to move for funding any new government expense, as demonstrated, yet again, by last week’s House vote to fund an extension of low interest rates on government student loans by raiding so-called Obamacare slush funds.) And as a deficit-reduction measure, the exchange defunding doesn’t offer anything close to the largest savings. For example: The provision for repealing the Prevention and Public Health Fund, an effort to reduce healthcare costs in the long run by spending more on prevention, would save $16 billion over 10 years. In the big scheme of things, a billion here or a billion there for the exchanges won’t make that much progress toward $600 billion worth of defense cuts.

    But as a targeted cut designed to cripple the long-term efficacy of the Affordable Care Act, Ryan could hardly be wielding his scalpel with more precision. It’s brilliant. The part of the ACA that one might imagine most Republicans would be ideologically predisposed to agree with — the use of free market competition to provide consumers with more choice and lower costs — is the part that Republicans want to go after.

    But that’s what the politics of sabotage are all about. If Republicans really cared about the federal budget, they wouldn’t insist that tax cuts or wars did not need to be paid for. The point, now, of the budget showdown is not to ensure fiscal restraint, but to disembowel the legislation that a duly elected president and Democratic Congress passed. Starve the beast, so far, has failed. But making sure that government doesn’t work at all? That’s much more doable.
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  • marcuss... Carol 2012/05/06 19:48:51
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    +1
    You went on and on and on with a big switch and bait reply. ALL OF THAT and you never answering the question I presented to you.

    IS HE LYING OR IS HE NOT?
  • Carol marcuss... 2012/05/06 23:20:36
    Carol
    He is not.
  • marcuss... Carol 2012/05/07 01:31:26
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    LOL! YES HE IS.

    Will the deficit be cut in half by the end of his first term like he said it would?
  • Carol marcuss... 2012/05/07 15:03:50
    Carol
    Not when raising revenues is blocked by the GOP.
  • marcuss... Carol 2012/05/07 20:25:40
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    Yet ANOTHER LIE from a LWNJ.

    You seem like you dont pay enough in taxes.
  • Carol marcuss... 2012/05/08 14:30:20
    Carol
    You seem like someone who doesn't know the art of debate.
  • marcuss... Carol 2012/05/08 19:40:27
  • Carol marcuss... 2012/05/08 14:38:19
    Carol
    As Congress returns from recess this week, House Republicans are set to advance legislation to replace automatic defense spending cuts they agreed to last year with cuts to programs for the poor and working class. The controversial measure is expected to pass the House and die in the Senate, making it largely a political exercise that allows the two parties to contrast the values at the heart of the 2012 election: Should the burden for addressing the country’s long-running fiscal challenges fall to struggling people, or to the wealthiest people in the country?
  • marcuss... Carol 2012/05/08 19:40:41
  • Sinpac Carol 2012/05/06 20:12:34
    Sinpac
    True that!
  • Dan 2012/05/06 15:31:05
    It is true, Obama is as honest as the day is long
    Dan
    My days are short.
  • Denny 2012/05/06 15:11:42
    Other
    Denny
    He's right. Obummer and all Politicians talk in the Washington double talk that you can't pin any right or wrong to them because they say nothing unless someone does something good that he can take credit for
  • Bobbi 2012/05/06 14:55:45
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    Bobbi
    +2
    I suppose if I lived in a box on another planet or just read left wing blogs I wouldn't be able to see the truth either....
  • mustangluver 2012/05/06 14:38:53
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    mustangluver
    +6
    LOL..not just one..Obama is practicing what Adolf Hitler called the “Big Lie.” In Mein Kampf, Hitler said people fall more easily for a “big lie” than a small lie. People doubt you when you tell a small lie. When you tell a lie that is “colossal,” no one would believe that someone “could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.”
    Hitler’s primary rules were: “never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.”
    blame concentrate enemy blame wrong people lie repeat frequently people
  • Ukie 2012/05/06 14:37:29
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    Ukie
    +4
    "There is no greater self-delusion than to think that one no longer has any illusions"
    ie: DENIAL
  • Deep007 2012/05/06 14:23:47
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    Deep007
    +4
    They don't believe it...they are just LYING...just like Obummer
  • dave b 2012/05/06 14:20:21
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    dave b
    +1
    The poster is lying, too.
  • Bali 2012/05/06 14:01:18
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    Bali
    +4
    who is this imbecile? he needs help. i can help him.
  • Mr. T Bali 2012/05/06 15:11:37
    Mr. T
    +1
    No. Been this way all the time...no hope.
  • Bali Mr. T 2012/05/06 15:13:09
    Bali
    +2
    no surprise either Mr T
  • S and S 2012/05/06 13:37:47
  • Chanch 2012/05/06 13:37:04
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    Chanch
    +6
    He's a politician !! He LIES !! But he has made a hobby of it.
  • Franklin 2012/05/06 13:36:56
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    Franklin
    +6
    Being a liberal means being able to change your own direction constantly to keep up with the losers you support – O zombies have no morals no history and bounds for the depravity they will use to try and keep up with supporting him. gas prices Obama Obama dept
  • All American 2012/05/06 13:35:46
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    All American
    +6
    How about not raising taxes on people making less than 250K? Not true.
  • mwg0735 2012/05/06 13:18:47
  • Chanch mwg0735 2012/05/06 13:38:30 (edited)
    Chanch
    +5
    Very selective memory !! They remember what is convenient for their aganda !!
  • Flamingolady 2012/05/06 13:11:55
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    Flamingolady
    +5
    Wow. His list of lies gets longer and longer every day! Today I read that he lied about some woman he claims to have lived with in college. And that his degree at Harvard must be honorary. Since none of his college transcripts are available, he could say anything and it be a lie. SO MANY shady dealings from this POS. How about his birth certificate, his social security number, his Selective Service number? How about who wrote his book, Dreams from my Father? How about transparency in government, making us fiscally stable, when we now owe 15 trillion dollars? And every hour we owe China 2 more billion dollars? His only solution is to tax the rich more. Not stop spending, just tax the rich more which by all accounts would only sew up about 500 billion dollars in the bleeding gash.
  • Richard Hungwell AKA Relent... 2012/05/06 13:10:08
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    Richard Hungwell AKA Relentless
    +3
    I'm sure you are probably talking about "dallas" AKA obamabot

    He doesn't really believe what he posts, he is just an obamabot trying to get others to believe his lies. Every single post he makes is nothing more than BS trashtalk of republicans and praise for his sponsor, obama. With all the legitimate issues one could hold against the republicans, he instead only argues with rhetoric and lies, a sure sign he is nothing more than an obamabot.
  • Mr. T Richard... 2012/05/06 13:59:32
    Mr. T
    +2
    No...not that one.
  • Richard... Mr. T 2012/05/06 15:17:22
    Richard Hungwell AKA Relentless
    +1
    Similar M.O. perhaps? Or is this one truly just plain ignorant?
  • cmdrbnd007 2012/05/06 12:55:07
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    cmdrbnd007
    +5
    Where do you begin? I think I'll begin and end with just one lie. He stated he would have the most transparent government ever and that hasn't panned out at all.
  • apachehellfire65 2012/05/06 12:14:35
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    apachehellfire65
    +5
    he lies about everything including his lies! and his supporters lie to everyone including themselves to try and cover his lies!
  • Mohotzgui 2012/05/06 12:06:40
    Other
    Mohotzgui
    He really didn't say that he wouldn't bring us further down the toilet.
  • Hawkeye Mohotzgui 2012/05/06 12:48:23
    Hawkeye
    +4
    Exactly.. Obama is a MASTER of Deceit.. If you listen to his carefully worded lies,, they OFTEN don't convey what people THINK they convey.. He promised "Fundamental Change" and THAT'S what he gave us.. Hitler promised the very same thing to the Germans in 1932 and I DOUBT that they understood his promise either..

    There ARE times where he does lie on a regular basis however and he doesn't even bother to hide it.. For instance.. When he talks about the Republicans and Bush he's CLEARLY Lying about where the blame should be placed..
  • Donna 2012/05/06 11:45:52 (edited)
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    Donna
    +5
    Mr T , there are people out there who truly believe everything this guy says & agree with every America bashing thing he stands for. My guess is they dont know how to use reason and have nothing to lose to begin with. They dont even 'get' the concept of his new campaign. I actually posted a video of Hitlers ' Forward' and the guy didnt even get it .... amazing ! So i say a big ' whatever' & let them be to fend on their own. The rest of us are fighting to salvage what's left of life in this country & to survive ... no time for the minions.
  • Hawkeye 2012/05/06 11:19:44
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    Hawkeye
    +6
    Democrats lying about Obama lying..

    WHAT do you expect??

    When Obama came out and said that Americans were to blame for the Gun Violence in Mexico while HIS administration was running guns to Drug Cartels he was actually telling the truth.. It IS an American Administration and Americans DID put HIM into Office.

    There are THOUSANDS of examples of Obama lying but here's the thing.. it ain't any better when he tells the TRUTH..
  • George 2012/05/06 10:49:30
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    George
  • ed 2012/05/06 10:32:42
    WOW - How can anyone say this, and more importantly, believe it?
    ed
    +8
    obama is the lyingest president we have ever had. obama lies obama lies

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