Okay, Time To Take Stock

by lslsttn Posted 2009/04/12 17:27:53
in To Be Named...

8 votes
Read all 46 opinions
View Results and Demographics + View Demographics

Loading Demographics... Click an icon to see demographic results Display unknown and private
	Comment...	6 votes	75%
	Comment...	2 votes	25%

We have a lot of people making a LOT OF SENSE in these threads. We have socialists, libertarians, republicans, democrats, and probably a few other political and socio-economic descriptions; all of whom care about this Country.

So while we are waiting for the letter (should be ready Monday) what I'd like to do is see what you Really Think just from yourself, not so much as in response to what someone else says. How do you feel, what do you think; and what do you believe about this Country?

Add a comment above

Devilish Thoughts 2009/04/12 18:57:53

Comment...

+3
This is just a little bit of something...I will try and post more thoughts later on but this should give you a better idea of what I am thinking.

I have posted this in several forms on a few differnent "questions" here at SH but I wanted to place it in my own blogs as well for safe keeping. You are of course welcome to post a comment if you like but it is not expected. It is just here for my benifit.

TRUE STIMULUS that works.

The only way we are ever going to end our financial problems is to take the checkbook and credit cards away from government and put them on an allowance.

Acutally if you want to solve the problem, take the all the "stimulus" money and pay off every mortgage in the country. It would cause a trick down effect.
1. Mortgaged payed off...
2. Banks now have money to lend...
3. Consumers have extra funds each month
4. More money to pay off credit cards and spend in the market place.
5. Credit companys loosen up and offer more credit.
6. More homes can be purchased
7. Sparking the building trades again
8, Increasing home values.
9. The market benifits by increased sales
10. Increased sales require more people to work...creating jobs.
11. More jobs means less drawing unemployment and welfare help.
12 Less welfare and unemployment lead to more funds...

""

This is just a little bit of something...I will try and post more thoughts later on but this should give you a better idea of what I am thinking.

I have posted this in several forms on a few differnent "questions" here at SH but I wanted to place it in my own blogs as well for safe keeping. You are of course welcome to post a comment if you like but it is not expected. It is just here for my benifit.

TRUE STIMULUS that works.

The only way we are ever going to end our financial problems is to take the checkbook and credit cards away from government and put them on an allowance.

Acutally if you want to solve the problem, take the all the "stimulus" money and pay off every mortgage in the country. It would cause a trick down effect.
1. Mortgaged payed off...
2. Banks now have money to lend...
3. Consumers have extra funds each month
4. More money to pay off credit cards and spend in the market place.
5. Credit companys loosen up and offer more credit.
6. More homes can be purchased
7. Sparking the building trades again
8, Increasing home values.
9. The market benifits by increased sales
10. Increased sales require more people to work...creating jobs.
11. More jobs means less drawing unemployment and welfare help.
12 Less welfare and unemployment lead to more funds for the government to put back into Social Security.
13. Social Security re-established means a more secure future for those looking to retire.
14. Investments increase and the market stablizes.
15. REGULATE THE HELL OUT OF HOW THE IDIOTS SPEND FROM NOW ON!

Tada...for less than it has cost to "bail us out" we have fixed most of the problems and have not had to increase taxes at all.

Now thats a plan that benifits everyone!
(more)
>> See Replies

thir1t3en..Sie hassen mich ... 2009/04/13 18:49:05

Comment...

+1
*How do I feel about my country? I feel we have lost sight of what it is to be a true America. Somehow, the very fabric of what unites us together has been torn apart.
*What do I think about my country? I think the powers-that-be need to step down off the high horse and start listening to the American body, as a whole, and hear what we have to say about the economy.
*What do I believe about my country? I believe we are heading into the gravest and most dire situation we have ever seen in all of government history. I believe people have put their faith into a man- a mortal man- to get us out of the issues we face right now. I think it is about time that we, The People, take our country back and tell these puppets to give the puppet master the finger. Every generation sees a revolution. We have to band together to make it happen.

reply
lslsttn to thir1t3... 2009/04/13 19:17:22

Thank you :))

reply
Irons 2009/04/13 03:16:12

Comment...

+2
I am an American, I believe that we live in the greatest country in the world. A country were anyone can become a leader, and anybody can express their opinions free from consequences of tyranny. I believe that a country as great as ours should take care of its people...not one should sleep in the street, not one should be hungry, not one should be without adequate medical care, not one should be without fundemental education. The country should never be effected by private buisness as it was during this crisis. Nor should it be without important goods in its time of need. The country should respect its labor backbone and not attempt to utilize them as a scapegoat, when management fails. I believe that the current generation should ensure the welfare of our previous generations. I believe in our Democraticly elected officals, and the process that we have to change our leadership.

reply
lslsttn to Irons 2009/04/13 03:38:19

+1
Nice summation, Irons. Thank you.

reply
Molly 2009/04/13 01:26:06

Comment...

+2
I believe in personal responsibility. I believe that all the stimulus money that was passed should have been passed on to the taxpayer for him and her to stimulate the economy, instead of passing it to the people who got us into the mess to begin with. I believe that we should live by the golden rule do unto others as you would have them do unto you and love our neighbor. I believe our Country is great because it was founded on a desire for freedom from tyranny, if we loose that we will be just like every other country. We have to have motivation and be productive citizens. I desire freedom from oppression.

reply
lslsttn to Molly 2009/04/13 02:21:29

+1
Well said. I agree.

reply
WORLDPEACE 2009/04/12 20:15:24 (edited)

Comment...

+1
Ibelieve that mankind has chosen self-hate over love, death over life . This translates to the "...dream of the planet..." which is collectively created by us! This is the reason our progress is so painfully slow. We have too many substitutes for the love we could be giving to one another. I think all of the religions say this to us. Quote above from DMR. Peace

Thank you, Don Miguel. Peace

reply
lslsttn to WORLDPEACE 2009/04/13 00:34:21

+1
"A balance between generosity and gratitude which is an expression of real love."

Makes sense.

Thank you

reply
WORLDPEACE to lslsttn 2009/04/13 08:32:49

+1
This man's books are awesome! This one is my favorite one. Peace http://a0.vox.com/6a00c225279...

reply
Devilish Thoughts 2009/04/12 18:57:53

Comment...

+3
This is just a little bit of something...I will try and post more thoughts later on but this should give you a better idea of what I am thinking.

I have posted this in several forms on a few differnent "questions" here at SH but I wanted to place it in my own blogs as well for safe keeping. You are of course welcome to post a comment if you like but it is not expected. It is just here for my benifit.

TRUE STIMULUS that works.

The only way we are ever going to end our financial problems is to take the checkbook and credit cards away from government and put them on an allowance.

Acutally if you want to solve the problem, take the all the "stimulus" money and pay off every mortgage in the country. It would cause a trick down effect.
1. Mortgaged payed off...
2. Banks now have money to lend...
3. Consumers have extra funds each month
4. More money to pay off credit cards and spend in the market place.
5. Credit companys loosen up and offer more credit.
6. More homes can be purchased
7. Sparking the building trades again
8, Increasing home values.
9. The market benifits by increased sales
10. Increased sales require more people to work...creating jobs.
11. More jobs means less drawing unemployment and welfare help.
12 Less welfare and unemployment lead to more funds...

""

This is just a little bit of something...I will try and post more thoughts later on but this should give you a better idea of what I am thinking.

I have posted this in several forms on a few differnent "questions" here at SH but I wanted to place it in my own blogs as well for safe keeping. You are of course welcome to post a comment if you like but it is not expected. It is just here for my benifit.

TRUE STIMULUS that works.

The only way we are ever going to end our financial problems is to take the checkbook and credit cards away from government and put them on an allowance.

Acutally if you want to solve the problem, take the all the "stimulus" money and pay off every mortgage in the country. It would cause a trick down effect.
1. Mortgaged payed off...
2. Banks now have money to lend...
3. Consumers have extra funds each month
4. More money to pay off credit cards and spend in the market place.
5. Credit companys loosen up and offer more credit.
6. More homes can be purchased
7. Sparking the building trades again
8, Increasing home values.
9. The market benifits by increased sales
10. Increased sales require more people to work...creating jobs.
11. More jobs means less drawing unemployment and welfare help.
12 Less welfare and unemployment lead to more funds for the government to put back into Social Security.
13. Social Security re-established means a more secure future for those looking to retire.
14. Investments increase and the market stablizes.
15. REGULATE THE HELL OUT OF HOW THE IDIOTS SPEND FROM NOW ON!

Tada...for less than it has cost to "bail us out" we have fixed most of the problems and have not had to increase taxes at all.

Now thats a plan that benifits everyone!
(more)

reply
lslsttn to Devilis... 2009/04/12 19:14:00 (edited)

+1
I like it. And I appreciate the heck out of you. But I can't admire you cause Irons will get upset if I do. :))

I LOVE YOU IRONS!!

Happy Easter

reply
Devilis... to lslsttn 2009/04/13 03:08:28

Well being appreciated is ok too... and I wouldn't want you to upset Irons.. :))

Happy Hoppy Day to you too

reply
Irons to lslsttn 2009/04/13 19:56:25

+1
Right, appreciate is good............To admire is not objective

reply
lslsttn to Irons 2009/04/13 20:10:26

:)) See? I'm trainable. :))

reply
Irons to lslsttn 2009/04/13 22:29:52

+1
Outstanding, I can "appreciate" that

reply
lslsttn to Devilis... 2009/04/13 00:35:03

Saving it for the politicians aren't ya? :))

Are you having fun sweetie?

reply
Devilis... to lslsttn 2009/04/13 03:10:13

+1
lol I save nothing for politicians...they are much like the religious zealots...not able to comprehend the simplistic or logical and unless there is a "fairy tale" attached it serves no purpose to them.

reply
lslsttn to Devilis... 2009/04/13 03:46:16

Got a feeling you see it about like I do:

No ideals are particularly wrong, which means the one we started with wasn't wrong either.

Our politicians are fairy-tale-addicts. They need intervention.

reply
justfred to Devilis... 2009/04/13 03:46:54 (edited)

.

reply
lslsttn to justfred 2009/04/13 03:48:50

This thread is about saying whatever you want to say about the Country, not disagreeing or countering points, questioning validity. Please do not try to argue with people on thread.

Happy Easter

reply
Spizzzo BN-0 2009/04/12 18:18:20

Comment...

+1
I think this was, is, and will remain the greatest country, especially if we take care of it and have the courage to improve it through the use of it's built-in institutions and methods

I think we have room for improvement and should always be trying to do so.

reply
lslsttn to Spizzzo... 2009/04/12 18:23:41

+1
Okay, good. Name the institutions that are buit-in and the methods that are built in and tell us how we improve our greatest country using those built in institutions and methods.

Happy Easter.

reply
Spizzzo... to lslsttn 2009/04/12 18:35:00

+2
I won't go for an in-depth, complete answer here, now; but what I had in mind generally was Constitutional rights, government bodies, etc. and the seeking of improvements through elections. That sort of thing.

reply
lslsttn to Spizzzo... 2009/04/13 05:27:43

+1
So we need to take care of those and have the courage to improve those. I like that. Thank you.

reply
Spizzzo... to lslsttn 2009/04/13 14:54:01

+1
Yep.

reply
WORLDPEACE to lslsttn 2009/04/12 20:25:51

+1
We begin to love and come to share and all of these constructs will become obsolete. Others will no longer wish to exploit; they will want to make certain this beautiful world is respected, the hungry are fed, the persecuted freed and educated, the guilty corrected to transform this world. See, we do know how. We just need enough to make critical mass transform what is now the bad dream! All of these financial constructs are just that! We could deconstruct just as easy as we can cement these ways! I am aware that I will not wave my magic wand today and my will will be done! But I am gonna think it so strong that I may help to change minds as others help me to do this also. Peace
Here is my little friend for your page.

reply
lslsttn to WORLDPEACE 2009/04/13 05:31:05

I like this, peace poet. Thank you. Share the wealth. :))

reply
webmaven 2009/04/12 17:58:41

Comment...

+1
I believe this country will be great again. We have conscientious, intelligent leaders in place. They make mistakes, but we'll be ok, I think. Just as we've been ok through other crises.

reply
lslsttn to webmaven 2009/04/12 18:04:38

+1
That's a nice thought, webmaven. Thank you! :))

reply
webmaven to lslsttn 2009/04/12 18:13:53

+2
thanks for the kind word.

reply
lslsttn to webmaven 2009/04/12 18:16:28

+1
You're right. We Will Overcome.

We're in this together.

Happy Easter, Sweetheart.

reply
webmaven to lslsttn 2009/04/13 22:39:18

Ah. An encouraging word. You made me smile.

reply
NotWithoutAFight 2009/04/12 17:35:50

Comment...

+2
I don't want you to think I'm ignoring this or giving it a lot of consideration - I am.

But right now I'm so incredibly riled at the proposed windfall tax - I can't say anything that doesn't come out wrong.

I'll work on it.

reply
lslsttn to NotWith... 2009/04/12 17:42:39 (edited)

+1
The windfall tax -- that's where they take all the retirement you saved up and tax it, right?

That's been on the law books for a long time, so why is it being proposed; and who is proposing it; and how does it differ from what was on the law books in the first place?

Not that I agree with it.

To me, these days, taxes are more like membership fees to a club you cannot afford.

Happy Easter. :))

reply
NotWith... to lslsttn 2009/04/12 18:04:22 (edited)

+1
I'll mail you the links my friend.

And a very Happy Easter to you as well.

reply
lslsttn to NotWith... 2009/04/12 18:07:16

Put them here:))

reply
lslsttn to NotWith... 2009/04/12 18:17:38

Post it here. Let's see what it is.

reply
Spizzzo... to lslsttn 2009/04/12 18:15:32

+1
If that's her concern, it's an incorrect one. There have been Internet rumors about a proposed windfall tax on retirement money (supposedly by Nancy Polosi) around for over a year--and there was never any truth to it.

reply
WORLDPEACE to lslsttn 2009/04/12 20:28:34

Amen and we are not meant to be invited to this club! We just are forced by this illegal taxation (by crooks) to pay for their F'ups! It was not really an Fup. It was and is deliberate. Read the Shock Doctrine. It fills in many blanks in a scholarly manner.

reply
Spizzzo... to NotWith... 2009/04/12 18:13:05

+2
I'm not aware of any proposed windfall tax. What's your concern?

reply