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Occupy Wall Street Movement Is a Year Old: Did it Change Anything?

Chris D 2012/09/17 19:00:00
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It must get tiring camping out in front of the Stock Exchange and complaining that there are no work opportunities, because the crowds have gone home -- hopefully to a place to live and a job. The campers did have a point though.

The banks caused a huge crisis by repackaging crappy defaulting loans and selling them back to us as mortgage-backed securities and "derivative" investment products. That's a nice magic trick...then once it all blew up, the the politicians used tax payer money (otherwise known as TARP funds) and bailed the bankers out, so they could still get their bonuses. Maybe the bankers who were paying big money to the election campaigns (on both sides) were cashing in their influence? Either way, the whole thing sinks. So maybe we should be able to regulate the financial services industry a bit better so that banks can't defraud America. Isn't that the government's job?

How did the industry ever get deregulated in the first place? Well, the whole cause of this mess can be traced back to when Bill Clinton signed the The Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act into law in 1999, repealing part of the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933, removing barriers in the market among banking companies, securities companies and insurance companies that prohibited any one institution from acting as any combination of an investment bank, a commercial bank, and an insurance company. Voila, the fox was now guarding the hen house, and guess what happened?

So the government causes the problem by letting banks self-regulate their businesses. The Occupy Wall Streeters started with a good high level complaint, but then the cause spiraled into a sloppy self, indulgent mess that became an attraction for petty criminals and anyone looking to cause trouble. Did the movement change anything or was it all just noise?

CNN.COM reports:
Police encircled Lower Manhattan's Zuccotti Park on Sunday as protesters geared up to observe the one-year anniversary of Occupy Wall Street.
park sunday protesters geared observe one-year anniversary occupy wall street

Read More: http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/16/us/ny-occupy-anniver...

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  • thє вlu... madsam 2012/09/24 09:59:15
  • twocrows 2012/09/19 04:59:40
    Yes
    twocrows
    +1
    actually, the question is, "HAS it changed anything?" since it is ongoing.

    meanwhile, they have certainly changed the narrative. before they came along it was all, "The debt! The debt!" Now it's, "Jobs! Jobs!"
    and when did anyone mention the 99% before they began drawing attention to the rest of us?

    and stay tuned. the fat lady ain't sung yet.
  • madsam twocrows 2012/09/19 05:56:09
    madsam
    +1
    Talking about jobs without talking about business who make jobs is useless. Government jobs are ALL overhead and unprofitable.
  • RastaFan twocrows 2012/09/19 09:08:57
    RastaFan
    +3
    Where is it ongoing? Nowhere, because it didn't know where it was going in the first place, so it's stuck going around in circles in the minds of a couple of stinky-town organizers ... and no further. Has anyone seen a smelly-ville set up this summer?

    Sniff, sniff ..... nope.
  • Michaelene RastaFan 2012/09/19 12:35:42
    Michaelene
    +1
    In reality, the Obamavilles are still set up, where the thousands who have fallen off the DOL and lost their homes are living now.
    There is one 10 miles north and another 10 miles south of my home.
  • Michaelene Michaelene 2012/09/19 12:36:45
    Michaelene
    oops meant to say: DOL UE head count
  • Jon Bergen twocrows 2012/09/19 18:12:20
    Jon Bergen
    +2
    While the Conservative Chorus has chimed in predictably, let me be the dissenting voice in that noise which agrees with you.

    The subprime lending crisis which mushroomed into the current Depression was sown and harvested by George Bush II, who then followed up with a massive bailout program for the irresponsible lenders...right before handing off the whole mess to Obama to handle. At the same time that Mitch McConnell issued instructions to Republicans to obstruct Obama at every term and use every tool at their disposal to deny him a successful presidency.

    Though FoxNews and the rest of Rupert Murdoch's media empire is working overtime to sell the GOP narrative that America's plight is all Obama's fault, even poorly informed Americans can sense that's not really the truth. Thus Obama's lead in the polls in spite of the Depression and the conservative mainstream media.

    Anyway, you are right. The narrative was changed. And the Occupy protesters changed it.

    spite depression conservative mainstream media narrative changed occupy protesters changed

    spite depression conservative mainstream media narrative changed occupy protesters changed

    spite depression conservative mainstream media narrative changed occupy protesters changed

    spite depression conservative mainstream media narrative changed occupy protesters changed
  • RastaFan Jon Bergen 2012/09/20 06:19:37 (edited)
    RastaFan
    Only a delusional ostrich still claims the subprime purchasing was reflective of GW policies. That whole horror show was born in the CRA nightmare dream of Carter, ramped up drastically by Clinton and finally distributed deep into the financial arena by Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Franklin Raines, et al.

    The only thing Bush did, and I agree it was reprehensible, was not throw everyone of those bastards he could .. in jail.

    The only 'thing' you're feeling in the air is the gathering Concervatives sharpening their knives. Nov 06 is going to be Nov 02 ... on steroids.

    And I just noticed ........ ~the conservative main stream media~ ???????
    Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...
  • Jon Bergen RastaFan 2012/09/20 21:37:36
    Jon Bergen
    +1
    Whoa, you only 'just noticed'? Then you have been paying less attention than I thought, even for a head-in-the-sand neocon. So you think the corporations operating mainstream media, especially those owned by Rupert Murdoch, are liberal, and not conservative? Like Fox? Well, you go on and keep 'thinking' that.

    Meanwhile, here's some media for you, revealing that reality does indeed have a liberal bias, since the reality is that 8 years of the Cheney-Bush administration created and oversaw the subprime lending mess and our current Depression:



    More mainstream corporate-controlled media for you below, revealing that facts and reality continue to fail to agree with neoconservative fantasies that the Left wields great power and imposes great misery. The statement only becomes true if you substitute 'the Right' for 'the Left:'

    How Bush White House Philosophy Ignored Warnings & Precipitated Mortgage-Driven Global Financial Meltdown (New York Times)

    house philosophy warnings precipitated mortgage-driven global financial meltdown york times

    Enjoy that cold splash or truth...or go back to your rubber room ~ whichever you prefer.
  • RastaFan Jon Bergen 2012/09/22 02:46:57
    RastaFan
    Man, you're dumb, but you're kinda funny the way you present your gotchas!

    You can go get busy researching the origins and drivers of the sub-prime ...... starting at Carter, then to Clinton, then on to Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Franklin Raines, etc. It's fairly easy to understand. You'll also learn that GW was raising alarms about it. I will agree he didn't do enought to grab those scruffy Democrat gangsters by the neck and throw them in jail.

    And the MSM comment? .......... Ah,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!! Dumby !
  • Jon Bergen RastaFan 2012/09/22 21:32:26
  • RastaFan Jon Bergen 2012/09/24 02:07:41 (edited)
    RastaFan
    Well, what can I say, except only a dumby relies consistantly on the vaguaries of photoshopped posters in lieu of a reasoned support for his ideas.

    What contributed to Fox's enormous popularity was it's non-MSM stances. Fox is unrepentent in presenting conservative points of view as well as liberal. It operates outside of the main stream.

    But ... we're getting off track, dumby. The ~Occupy~ movement is a loser-fest and Brietbart (God rest his soul) is post-humously doing the nation and world a great service in displaying what a mealy-mouthed filthy gang of Marxist bitches and bitch-slapped sycophants it is/was comprised of.

  • Jon Bergen RastaFan 2012/09/24 15:37:15
    Jon Bergen
    +1
    Your repeatedly resorting to the 'dumby' insult when responding to me reveals a few things:

    (1) I've touched a nerve;

    (2) you turn to insults when you have no argument.
  • RastaFan Jon Bergen 2012/09/25 14:09:23 (edited)
    RastaFan
    Wrong again. Dumby.

    I attached that moniker 'in addition' to refuting your absurdities. You may rest assured my nerves are intact and untouched.

    I was insulting your obvious belief that a few crumby posters somehow are an adequate substitute for serious debate. Do you understand that salient point?

    May I please continue ... or are you going to slap up some crumby dumby piece of photoshopped buffoonery to try and prove the the foundation for and pomotion of the subprime mortgage disaster was not owned 90+% by New Party Democrat liberalism ... on steroids.
  • DANTE d... RastaFan 2012/09/25 18:50:16
    DANTE da DESTROYER
    +1
    Well at least he has substance to back up his statement... it's called validity ...
    And just a question do have something against democracy and liberty?
  • RastaFan DANTE d... 2012/09/25 20:50:31
    RastaFan
    Yes ... that was validity alright. Any dumbass can C&P photofunnies.

    Rephrase your silly question. You know it's moronic as it stands. You lead with an assumption. Any person involved in marketing or sales knows that as an 'assumed close'. It often works in a sales situation but is disingenuous nonsense in a debating forum.
  • Jon Bergen RastaFan 2012/09/26 20:09:45
    Jon Bergen
    Again, personal attacks are the refuge of the loser of a the argument.

    You've lost; get over it.
  • RastaFan Jon Bergen 2012/09/27 21:20:33
    RastaFan
    There is no personal attack my communication with DANTE, except for the statement regarding the dumbassness of relying 'almost' exclusively on cutting and pasting. That comment obviously was directed at you, not DANTE.

    I'm certain he could figure that out. You? ... not so much.
  • DANTE d... RastaFan 2012/09/27 23:42:09
    DANTE da DESTROYER
    No i'm interested in fact not indoctrinated fictional ramble... which why i have stopped replying to you thanks though.
  • RastaFan DANTE d... 2012/09/28 17:15:48
    RastaFan
    Well, I suppose if you want to elevate Bergen's ridiculous poster barrage to the level of actual debate, I've no choice but to conclude neither of you know what a debate actually looks like!

    Enjoy.
  • Jon Bergen DANTE d... 2012/09/26 00:36:40
    Jon Bergen
    +1
    Dante, pay no attention to that a$$ behind the curtain.

    He was answered, just as you say. He just didn't like the answer:

    The subprime debacle & global financial meltdown was hatched by the Cheney-Bush administration;

    Obstructionism orchestrated by Mitch McConnell from the moment Obama took office has stood in the way of economic recovery and prolonged the GOP-created Depression;

    The media are owned and sponsored by corporations, so they therefore are controlled by the beneficiaries of capitalism and corporatism and are pretty much the opposite of liberal in their bias;

    Rupert Murdoch will endorse liberalism when Bush and Cheney are working an ice cream stand in Hell.
  • RastaFan Jon Bergen 2012/09/27 21:08:09
    RastaFan
    CRA ... intitiated by Carter, hyped by Clinton.

    All Congressional submissions squashed by Harry Reid.

    MSM = ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CBS = Socialist hacks.

    Sorry that you had to be so wrong.
  • RastaFan RastaFan 2012/09/27 21:11:42 (edited)
    RastaFan
    And ...... OWS, still goes down as the biggest jackass, laughing stock, failed fake-grassroot organization ever.

    Do yourself a favour. Grab some popcorn and see something that will open your veiled and crusty eyes.

    http://youtu.be/iHcr_8Qgdos
  • DANTE d... RastaFan 2012/09/27 23:43:48 (edited)
    DANTE da DESTROYER
    I don't follow any of those "news" agencies at all... any more ASSumptions?
  • charlie.knight.33449 2012/09/19 04:26:15
    No
    charlie.knight.33449
    +3
    It could not have changed much. The very people that the "occupy" folks were demonstrating against were the ones that were bankrolling their efforts. Just a lot of show for nothing. Great Theater though.
  • Stratweenie57 2012/09/19 04:15:33
    It changed some things
    Stratweenie57
    +3
    Yeah,they made Zucotti park smell bad....
  • MikeB 2012/09/19 04:08:55
  • boredcolliedogBringMarianne... 2012/09/19 03:52:11 (edited)
    It changed some things
    boredcolliedogBringMarianneBack!
    +3
    They drained us of tax dollars, pissed off conservatives and energized our voters.
  • Michaelene boredco... 2012/09/19 12:40:34
    Michaelene
    +2
    In Philly they also completely wiped out all of the food pantries for the homeless while simultaneously delaying a huge construction project. There was a great picture to show the irony of people holding "I want a job" sign in front of the construction project they tried to shut down.
  • boredco... Michaelene 2012/09/19 13:47:46
    boredcolliedogBringMarianneBack!
    +2
    Greedy losers! I think all their photos should be scanned and passed out to employers.
  • Michaelene boredco... 2012/09/19 13:57:28
    Michaelene
    +1
    I doubt that, their photos were probably scanned for Obama's recruitment use.
  • boredco... Michaelene 2012/09/19 13:59:02
    boredcolliedogBringMarianneBack!
    +2
    I think it's backfiring on him. At least I hope it is.
  • Michaelene boredco... 2012/09/19 14:22:34
    Michaelene
    +2
    The "good" thing is that those who were starry eyed in 2008 are being smacked silly by the reality of 2012.
    Yet, some believe the blame game, I guess their Momma's never taught them to accept their mistakes and stop blaming somebody, nobody or everybody!
  • boredco... Michaelene 2012/09/19 14:34:54
    boredcolliedogBringMarianneBack!
    +2
    Yep! Some guy further up mentioned he finally realized how moronic the left can be. So some good things have come out of it I guess.
  • Michaelene boredco... 2012/09/19 17:07:39
    Michaelene
    +1


    Yep, morons alright!
  • Barry Calligan 2012/09/19 03:49:05
    No
    Barry Calligan
    +1
    What did they change? They're nothing but idiot left-wing liberal socialist extremists that did alot of damage to society.
  • thє вlu... Barry C... 2012/09/19 13:29:49
  • RastaFan thє вlu... 2012/09/24 02:15:32
    RastaFan
    Why the hell would you want to advocate for insane violence?

    Not cool and not wanted in our efforts against Marxism in America.
  • raine1200 2012/09/19 03:41:51
    No
    raine1200
    +1
    That was a complete waste of time and energy. They had no mission statement.
  • Ron Swanson 2012/09/19 03:22:28
    No
    Ron Swanson
    Ha. No.

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