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Obama's school speech. What are the reasons you are for or against it?

Michael 2009/09/08 05:55:21
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Conservatives have gone crazy over Obama's speech to school children. If you are conservative, what is your main issue. Most Democrats support his speech. What is it about his speech to school children do you think is worth supporting.

This is not an "us vs them" question, I just want to better understand each sides perspective. Remember you are not going to change the view of the opposite side, so stay respectful and try to offer a good explanation.
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  • gtstc 2009/09/08 07:33:10
    I do not support the speech. I am not worried about brain-washing or propaga...
    gtstc
    +9
    What more is there to say? It is removing parental consent and the school is a place to learn , not be influenced by a politician. It doesnt matter who it is.
    My kids will be home for his speach and discuss it with family not a teacher that has nothing to do with our families belief system.

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  • Jerry 2009/09/10 07:20:41
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    Jerry
    I think anytime a influencial figure can motivate children to stay in school, its a good thing. I also heard the speech and it was very good. Just a good old stay in school, reach for the stars message. I also think him being a black president give the even greater message that in a America we can be what ever we want as long as we work hard for it.
  • Gir 2009/09/10 04:40:27 (edited)
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    Gir
    I don't care about the speech. All these Conservatives made a big deal about absolutely nothing.
  • th4life 2009/09/10 01:48:06
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    th4life
    +1
    it shouldn't matter what your beliefs or who your against. he was adressing the speech to the children of american..trying to set and example..he wanted to show that he was not scared and that he could talk about school..i think the speech shouldnt have been such a controversy..all the man was trying to do was encourage kids..that education is key..nothing what so ever was said about "oh im a democrat" or "im republican".. that wasnt the point,,, he put differences aside..nothing was wrong with it!.
  • Lessa 2009/09/09 23:06:41
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    Lessa
    The edited and presented version was too frigging long for little kids, especially on the first day back.
  • Laura 2009/09/09 17:05:35
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    Laura
    I support President Obama's speech to the schools. He cares about our kids. What better example to a child is out leaders. He's a great President and I respect and honor him as our faithful President.
  • Katie 2009/09/09 05:48:14
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    Katie
    I am a Conservative, and I see no problem with him speaking to the youth of our nation about something as important as staying in school.
    Although, I am definately not an Obama supporter, he had good intentions behind the speech, and I see no problem with him giving it.
  • Gordon 2009/09/09 03:29:58
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    Gordon
    I would have loved to see a broadcast speech from the President when I was a kid. Problem was we didn't have TVs back then.
  • Other (leave comment)
    ßεΙgιυм ★αηαяcнy★ ƒυcк чεαн!
    ...They had a speech? Why am I the only one who doesn't care about T.V. now!?
  • rightside 2009/09/09 00:21:35
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    rightside
    I think we should all go back to Kennedy's speech.
    Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
    Any speech should not be about the president, but about kids working in the free country to do what they can strive to do.
    I think bama's revised speech was pretty good. But, like the other "pledge", I do not pledge my service to b. obama.
  • Brosia 2009/09/08 23:21:04
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    Brosia
    I think that this is a special thing that the president is doing. There are so many things that he has to do, but to take the time and address the people in school that all the education bills being passed are going to affect. I am rather upset that my children may be denied the ability to watch the address because their school will be screening the showing to judge its educational value, which just sounds like an excuse for the teachers to input their own political views on a situation. If they don't like Obama, they can just say that his speech was not educational enough.
  • ♥♥Hearts♥♥Of♥♥Hearts♥♥ 2009/09/08 22:00:16 (edited)
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    ♥♥Hearts♥♥Of♥♥Hearts♥♥
    +1
    Can't wait till I see it tomorrow, I get out of work for that, and I wanna hear what he has to say. As for the lame excuses people gave for not letting their kids see it.. please get real, we know your true reason.

    And FYI only a student who liked Obama or cared would pay attention to that speech. No reason to keep them out of school.
  • rodeogal 2009/09/08 21:44:12
    I do not support the speech. The similarities to a socialist or totalitarism...
    rodeogal
    +1
    another example of his super inflated ego. So now he can influence our children to stay in school....yeah right. Thats the parents job, not his. He couldn't fool the adults so now he goes after the most valuable resource in america, our children......
  • Brosia rodeogal 2009/09/08 23:30:54
    Brosia
    +2
    Then parents are failing miserably. Nearly 30% of all students never finish high school and in cities, the number jumps to 52% that never finish. If the parents cannot convince the kids the value of education, maybe Obama can try. There is no harm in listening for a bit.
  • Love Loser =P 2009/09/08 20:31:51
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    Love Loser =P
    I didn't really care about the speech we had to watch it today in class I just ignored it and continued talking to my friends.
  • Ltish 2009/09/08 20:22:59
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    Ltish
    +1
    Absolutely absurd to protest anyone, let alone someone who rose up to become President thanks to his education, telling kids to stay in school and study. Where is the political message behind that? Why are people so paralleled by fear?? Come on, folks. GROW UP!
  • American Nate 2009/09/08 20:05:10
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    American Nate
    He's the PRESIDENT of the United States. NOT a Demercate House Leader.
  • Tw!stəd_S!stər 2009/09/08 19:14:33
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    Tw!stəd_S!stər
    I'm not a huge fan of Obama but as a student myself I found it very inspirational and motivational. It was for students not for the rest of the nation, he named famous people that can be role model for kids and teens, people who never gave up on their dreams.
  • Andy Devine 2009/09/08 18:59:33
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    Andy Devine
    +2
    Let’s see if I can express why I believe that the President should stay out of school. First of all, I acknowledge that previous Presidents have addressed school children; I did not agree then either.

    There are always two sides to a coin. Many of the population have honest and heart-felt issues and disagreements with the President’s ideology. We do not agree with the direction that he is leading the nation. In a republic like ours, this disagreement is healthy and fundamental to the success of our political system. As a parent I influence my children with my political beliefs just like every other parent in this country. When my children become adults they are free to follow their heart and choose their own path. While they are impressionable, I attempt to shield them from influences that I disagree with.

    The President is an elected political official. He is currently the top representative of the most powerful nation in the history of the world. As such, his power to influence people for good or bad is immense. There is every possibility that his speech will have a very positive influence on the school children listening to it. There is also a concern that I hear voiced in these comments that the President will use his stature and the authority of the school setting to ga...

    Let’s see if I can express why I believe that the President should stay out of school. First of all, I acknowledge that previous Presidents have addressed school children; I did not agree then either.

    There are always two sides to a coin. Many of the population have honest and heart-felt issues and disagreements with the President’s ideology. We do not agree with the direction that he is leading the nation. In a republic like ours, this disagreement is healthy and fundamental to the success of our political system. As a parent I influence my children with my political beliefs just like every other parent in this country. When my children become adults they are free to follow their heart and choose their own path. While they are impressionable, I attempt to shield them from influences that I disagree with.

    The President is an elected political official. He is currently the top representative of the most powerful nation in the history of the world. As such, his power to influence people for good or bad is immense. There is every possibility that his speech will have a very positive influence on the school children listening to it. There is also a concern that I hear voiced in these comments that the President will use his stature and the authority of the school setting to gain an unfair political advantage over an entire generation of upcoming voters. This could be seen as a down-payment on the 2010 and 2012 elections. This concern is not something that you can ignore just because you share the political beliefs of the President.

    So again I state “Mr. President, Stay out of school.” If you want to address the nation, do so on national television and I’ll decide if I want my children to listen.
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  • MaineGal Andy De... 2009/09/10 03:47:23
    MaineGal
    Thanks Andy...That is exactly what I told my kids when we discussed why I was not in favor of them watching the speech.
  • Ron 2009/09/08 18:58:24
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    Ron
    +1
    I read and enjoyed listening to him give it. I support the speech because it works for me in two ways. It shows that what I had been saying to my kids may be true that through hardwork and dedication anything is possible. It also holds a lot of positives and reinforces much of what i have already been saying to them. The second thing it does for me is allow me to have a more detailed conversation with my children covering areas that I neglected to cover in my talks with them. My children will be influenced by many in their lifetime but I know that their strongest influence will come from me. I fear not the power of others over those that I have raised.
  • Annie 2009/09/08 18:56:10
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    Annie
    +1
    I just heard the speech and it was wonderful. Asking children to be achievers and work hard and to not let themselves down is inspiring.
  • bookworm42 2009/09/08 18:47:48
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    bookworm42
    Good luck to you sir on stopping those who oppose this answer from not getting nasty.
  • Lanikai 2009/09/08 18:13:54
    I do not support the speech. The similarities to a socialist or totalitarism...
    Lanikai
    I think it is an early step in the indoctrination of our children and it is a bit too close to the Hitler agenda for my liking.
  • Cap 2009/09/08 18:03:23
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    Cap
    I support the speech as now released as opposed to being against the speech, although no speech at all would have been my first choice. However, my understanding of the original plan was that it included a lesson plan to be used in every classroom; that seems a little eerie to me. And if that lesson plan contained material that was not reasonably likely to obtain a consensus of approval by a significant majority of the American people, a rumor I've heard but find difficult to believe, that would seem highly objectionable.
  • Lanikai Cap 2009/09/08 18:15:43
    Lanikai
    +1
    The original included plans to have each child write a letter to the president that outlined how they could help the president achieve his agenda. That was initally what made everyone mad. Worse, it was supposed to include an admonishment for parents, by their kids to support the census.
  • JCLadybug 2009/09/08 17:56:04 (edited)
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    JCLadybug
    I believe his speech will be fine and I think every president has the chance to try to influence kids to go farther with their educations.

    However, the companion document I have read presents the office of the presidency in light that I do not agree with. I believe that he should simply stop at the speech and possibly ask the children what their reaction is to Obama's speech. There is no need to coach them. I think there needs to be a more equivalent view that we can disagree with the president and that itself can help this country become better.
  • shrimpster 2009/09/08 17:52:32
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    shrimpster
    +2
    I see no problem. Reagan and many other presidents gave speeches. I actually remember Reagan's.

    At the same time, parents have the right to deny their kids the chance to hear directly from the President. But, as a parent and an American, I feel obligated to let my children hear what they want and make their own decisions. I will not impose my will and philosophies on them, as much as the gov't should not impose on me. That would be unAmerican.
  • Lanikai shrimpster 2009/09/08 18:16:00
    Lanikai
    NOT to an entore nation of captive KIDS.
  • Riceman... shrimpster 2009/09/08 19:03:48
    RicemanSTM ~POTL~PWCM~JLA~AFCL
    Indeed, and perhaps you remember what happened when former President Bush (senior) gave a speech...

    "...Much has been made about the criticism surrounding President Obama's Tuesday speech to the nation's schoolchildren.

    But when President George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech in October 1991 to students at a junior high school in Washington, D.C., Democratic critics went much further and investigated the event, Washington Examiner columnist Byron York reported Tuesday.

    Democrats, who controlled Congress at the time, ordered the General Accounting Office to probe the production of the speech and later summoned top Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for a hearing, York wrote.

    The Bush speech at Alice Deal Junior High School cost $26,750 -- an expenditure paid by the Department of Education -- and drew fire from Rep. William Ford, then chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee, who ordered the probe.

    "As the chairman of the committee charged with the authorization and implementation of education programs, I am very much interested in the justification, rationale for giving the White House scarce education funds to produce a media event."

    The GAO found no wrongdoing on the part of the Bush administration

    But after Bush spoke, The Washington Post implied in a f...
    Indeed, and perhaps you remember what happened when former President Bush (senior) gave a speech...

    "...Much has been made about the criticism surrounding President Obama's Tuesday speech to the nation's schoolchildren.

    But when President George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech in October 1991 to students at a junior high school in Washington, D.C., Democratic critics went much further and investigated the event, Washington Examiner columnist Byron York reported Tuesday.

    Democrats, who controlled Congress at the time, ordered the General Accounting Office to probe the production of the speech and later summoned top Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for a hearing, York wrote.

    The Bush speech at Alice Deal Junior High School cost $26,750 -- an expenditure paid by the Department of Education -- and drew fire from Rep. William Ford, then chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee, who ordered the probe.

    "As the chairman of the committee charged with the authorization and implementation of education programs, I am very much interested in the justification, rationale for giving the White House scarce education funds to produce a media event."

    The GAO found no wrongdoing on the part of the Bush administration

    But after Bush spoke, The Washington Post implied in a front-page story that the speech was staged for the president's political benefit, and Democratic allies continued to pounce on Bush for the cost of the event...."
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  • shrimpster Riceman... 2009/09/08 21:13:33
    shrimpster
    +1
    Which is ridiculous.
  • EagleEye 2009/09/08 17:48:25
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    EagleEye
    +4
    .......but it's the next speech I'm concerned about....is he just trying to lure the students in with a nice pep talk, only to hammer them later with a hidden political agenda....we'll all be watching....but this ones OK..........how about the next one telling his brothers about the responsibility of parenthood and values in marriage.
  • JCLadybug EagleEye 2009/09/08 17:57:31
    JCLadybug
    +1
    On you last note, I recently read a great article about that very issue.

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sha...
  • EagleEye JCLadybug 2009/09/09 00:44:17
    EagleEye
    very good article...".........sense of self-respect. He’s self-reliant, and he’s responsible for his family. He has humility, grace and respect for others. Above all, he has a sense of humor — especially about himself — and a sense of perspective. "
  • JCLadybug EagleEye 2009/09/09 02:41:55
    JCLadybug
    I agree and even made it "news" after I posted it for you.

    http://www.sodahead.com/news/...

    While it is not "politically correct" I think it challenges both sides to consider how our society and political policies have helped shape some of the men we meet today. IMO any political ideology should be able to appreciate this article.
  • beyondtheparadoxical 2009/09/08 17:44:12
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    beyondtheparadoxical
    +1
    I support the speech because I don't see what the big deal is. As long as he's just telling them the importance of staying in school and being successful, there is no problem.
  • jonathanlisto 2009/09/08 17:33:56
    I support the speech. The President is the leader of America and has the cha...
    jonathanlisto
    +1
    I don't see the big deal. Bush Jr. did it and so did a few other presidents.
  • liljoe 2009/09/08 17:19:30
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    liljoe
    +2
    I don't think he has any reason to try & drill in our childrens head's that we dont want to do ourself, he needs to be figuring a way to get us out of this mess he has got us in, as of now every citizen of the us not illegals will have an 80,000 tax hanging over their heads & thats a promise, would i like him to speak to my child, hell no way, this guy is scary.
  • GrumpyCat liljoe 2009/09/08 17:27:01
    GrumpyCat
    +2
    So you don't want your children to be encouraged to finish school and become something? STFU about your illegals. This has nothing to do with them.
  • Lanikai GrumpyCat 2009/09/08 18:17:06
    Lanikai
    That was NOT the original intent of the speech. EVERYTHING changed after parents began calling the WH to demnand he NOT do this.
  • GrumpyCat Lanikai 2009/09/08 18:44:22
    GrumpyCat
    +1
    Really than tell me good sir, what was the intent of the speech?

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