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Obama's own party revolts, asking him to reconsider a new free trade agreement that would ban "buy American" policies. Why are democrats revolting against Obama?

Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru 2012/05/04 13:09:09
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WASHINGTON -- A group of 68 House Democrats and one Republican sent a
letter to President Barack Obama on Thursday urging him to reconsider
an element of the controversial free trade agreement currently being
negotiated by the administration. If approved in its current form, the
pact would effectively ban "Buy American" policies in government contracting.



Although the deal, known as the Trans-Pacific Partnership, has
received relatively little media attention in the United States, it has
sparked international friction among consumer groups and environmental
activists who worry that terms demanded by the Obama administration will
eliminate important public protections. Domestically, however, the
deal's primary source of political tension is from a portion that could
ban "Buy American" provisions -- a restriction that opponents emphasize
would crimp U.S. jobs

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  • sjalan 2012/05/05 03:14:51
    Interesting.
    sjalan
    The phrases you refer to are not in the final draft. The final draft neutralized these phrases.
  • ruthannhausman 2012/05/04 20:11:31
    I think:
    ruthannhausman
    +1
    Know what I think? First, laying the predicate, overall I believe the Democratic party has been infiltrated with traitorous folks bent on destroying the America I grew up in. The remainder of the party consists of old-time dems who have more liberal beliefs than Republicans, etc., but most of whom don't believe in any conspiracy theories. Okay.

    Barack Obama has made absolutely no secret of what his little brain thinks about our country and what he thinks our country should be like. His Green movement is relentless and, in many instances, without merit and/or unproven, and yet he continuously jams them down our throats without any thought of economic consequences in these trying times. Likewise, his class warfare and income redistribution plan are right up there with the Green projects.

    All that having been said, Barack Obama is, if nothing else, a very effective politician. Speaking proverbially, he could sell freezers to the Eskimos, or however that little joke went. And the democratic party is not quite as ignorant as a lot of folks think. There are many dems who are beginning to recognize that Obama speaks to the crowd he is addressing; i.e., says what that particular group wants to hear. Promises them whatever it is they are wishing for the most in order to secu...





    Know what I think? First, laying the predicate, overall I believe the Democratic party has been infiltrated with traitorous folks bent on destroying the America I grew up in. The remainder of the party consists of old-time dems who have more liberal beliefs than Republicans, etc., but most of whom don't believe in any conspiracy theories. Okay.

    Barack Obama has made absolutely no secret of what his little brain thinks about our country and what he thinks our country should be like. His Green movement is relentless and, in many instances, without merit and/or unproven, and yet he continuously jams them down our throats without any thought of economic consequences in these trying times. Likewise, his class warfare and income redistribution plan are right up there with the Green projects.

    All that having been said, Barack Obama is, if nothing else, a very effective politician. Speaking proverbially, he could sell freezers to the Eskimos, or however that little joke went. And the democratic party is not quite as ignorant as a lot of folks think. There are many dems who are beginning to recognize that Obama speaks to the crowd he is addressing; i.e., says what that particular group wants to hear. Promises them whatever it is they are wishing for the most in order to secure their vote. But then he'll turn around at another location and say something totally opposite. But the lamestream media never grabs hold of those instances to report them. Totally ignores them, to be honest with you. So then you have Internet newsbodies passing these info things around and then, of course, there is so much distortion and outright lying that someone cites a situation, somebody else comes back with "proof" of a lie and, bam, everybody else decides this is just another plot by republicans to discredit Obama and the incident is washed under the bridge forever.

    And now you have some democrats who are waking up and seeing what is happening. That's the funny thing about chicanery, you know. People can witness all kinds of nasty things and keep their mouths shut for a long time and then, all of a sudden, they witness the straw that breaks the camel's back and, boom, you've got a new non-believer.

    And that is what is happening to a lot of the folks who supported Obama all this time. They no longer trust him. They wonder what things he'll change right after he's reelected that will be contrary to what they were led to believe he'd do. There's just too many lies surrounding the man. You never really know what he's thinking. Just as an aside, recall all the "apologizing for America" trips he made after taking office, his refusal to wear an American flag lapel pin (until public sentiment was heard), among other things, and then his rah-rah-rah emotional speeches on special days such as 9/11 or the recent Bin Laden death anniversary. You can't trust him. Will the real Barack Obama please stand up? Hmmmm, which one of those guys is he?

    That's what I think.
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  • Heisenberg 2012/05/04 19:16:24
    I think:
    Heisenberg
    He can turn against them because they will never vote for his opponent.
  • sbtbill 2012/05/04 17:15:57
    I think:
    sbtbill
    Obama is wrong on free trade, but Romney exports jobs and likes it too.
  • Max 2012/05/04 16:52:44
    I think:
    Max
    If it's bad for the U.S., it seems this administration is for it.
  • compufreek 2012/05/04 16:23:36
    I think:
    compufreek
    They are getting heat put on them by the people they represent.
  • Cyan9 2012/05/04 15:31:34 (edited)
    I think:
    Cyan9
    +2
    free trade is generally good. The problem is making sure international corporations follow the law and that proper environmental and labor regulations are put into place with our fellow trading partners.
  • john Kills 2012/05/04 15:06:55
    I think:
    john Kills
    +3
    Even as thick headed as liberals are they are starting to see how anti American Barry really is. Sure took long enough. More votes for Ron Paul.
  • Cyan9 john Kills 2012/05/04 15:29:01
    Cyan9
    +1
    Ron Paul would probably support the policy though considering how for free trade he is.
  • toni 2012/05/04 14:23:03
    I think:
    toni
    +3
    There are no perfect people. There certainly are no perfect politicians. I have been less than thrilled with many things coming out of this administration. I will be voting for Obama in November because the other choice is Mitt Romney.
  • BIG BAD JOHN R. 2012/05/04 14:21:36
    Interesting.
    BIG BAD JOHN R.
    +2
    Interesting how you phrase your question, No where did I read "That Obama's own party revolts", so why do you put this slant on the question. they do say, "We do not believe this approach is in the best interests of U.S. manufacturers and U.S. workers," the letter reads." It further states, "We do not believe this approach is in the best interests of U.S. manufacturers and U.S. workers," Since the 1930s, the American government has offered preferential treatment to American producers in the awarding of federal contracts.
    "sent a
    letter to President Barack Obama on Thursday urging him to reconsider" is not a statement saying they are revolting.

    A trade agreement currently under negotiation contains language that could potentially ban "Buy American" provisions, crimping American manufacturing.
    WASHINGTON -- A group of 68 House Democrats and one Republican sent a letter to President Barack Obama on Thursday urging him to reconsider an element of the controversial free trade agreement currently being negotiated by the administration. If approved in its current form, the pact would effectively ban "Buy American" policies in government contracting.

    Although the deal, known as the Trans-Pacific Partnership, has received relatively little media attention in the United States, i...







    Interesting how you phrase your question, No where did I read "That Obama's own party revolts", so why do you put this slant on the question. they do say, "We do not believe this approach is in the best interests of U.S. manufacturers and U.S. workers," the letter reads." It further states, "We do not believe this approach is in the best interests of U.S. manufacturers and U.S. workers," Since the 1930s, the American government has offered preferential treatment to American producers in the awarding of federal contracts.
    "sent a
    letter to President Barack Obama on Thursday urging him to reconsider" is not a statement saying they are revolting.

    A trade agreement currently under negotiation contains language that could potentially ban "Buy American" provisions, crimping American manufacturing.
    WASHINGTON -- A group of 68 House Democrats and one Republican sent a letter to President Barack Obama on Thursday urging him to reconsider an element of the controversial free trade agreement currently being negotiated by the administration. If approved in its current form, the pact would effectively ban "Buy American" policies in government contracting.

    Although the deal, known as the Trans-Pacific Partnership, has received relatively little media attention in the United States, it has sparked international friction among consumer groups and environmental activists who worry that terms demanded by the Obama administration will eliminate important public protections. Domestically, however, the deal's primary source of political tension is from a portion that could ban "Buy American" provisions -- a restriction that opponents emphasize would crimp U.S. jobs.

    Since the 1930s, the American government has offered preferential treatment to American producers in the awarding of federal contracts. If a domestic producer offers the government a more expensive bid than a foreign producer, it can still be awarded the contract under certain circumstances, but more recent free trade agreements have granted other nations the same negotiating status as domestic firms. The Obama administration is currently pushing to grant the several nations involved in the Trans-Pacific deal the same privileged status, according to the Thursday letter.

    "We do not believe this approach is in the best interests of U.S. manufacturers and U.S. workers," the letter reads. "Of special concern is the prospect that firms established in TPP countries, such as the many Chinese firms in Vietnam, could obtain waivers from Buy American policies. This could result in large sums of U.S. tax dollars being invested to strengthen other countries' manufacturing sectors, rather than our own."

    The letter from members of Congress to the administration marks a rare glimpse inside the typically secretive trade negotiation process. The terms of the free trade negotiations, including the Trans-Pacific pact, are withheld from the public, even though the governments of all the countries involved have access to them. Many major U.S. corporations have access to the draft negotiation texts through their positions on advisory boards to the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, the White House agency which negotiates trade deals.

    in the U.S. that offshore most of their manufacturing operations do not benefit from the system designed to promote domestic production in the way that companies with actual U.S. manufacturing operations do.
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  • Assassi... BIG BAD... 2012/05/04 15:36:38
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    +1
    Don't parse words. 68 congressional democrats do not agree with his proposed agreement. They have voted almost totally party line with him on every issue, and given him the nod on every major decision but this one. That is a revolt.
  • BIG BAD... Assassi... 2012/05/04 17:02:26
    BIG BAD JOHN R.
    ok, Still don't think so, a letter is not a revolt, stating a concern yes a revolt is when they veto or filibuster his motions.
  • sbtbill BIG BAD... 2012/05/04 17:16:52
    sbtbill
    It was a Huffington post headline.
  • BIG BAD... sbtbill 2012/05/04 19:36:11
    BIG BAD JOHN R.
    Ok, thank you for sharing
  • mk, Smartass Oracle 2012/05/04 14:08:10
    I think:
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    +4
    Maybe even his own party thinks he's nuts!





    obama distator
  • toni mk, Sma... 2012/05/04 14:27:46
    toni
    +2
    The Republicans like the treaty. If it passes it will make the US economy worse and the worse the economy the better the Republicans will do in the fall elections.
  • Kane Fe... toni 2012/05/04 14:39:00
    Kane Fernau
    +4
    Republicans are for free trade
  • mk, Sma... toni 2012/05/04 14:53:26
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    +1
    Thanks for the heads up. I was not aware of this bill
  • john Kills toni 2012/05/04 15:09:05
    john Kills
    +1
    Ron Paul does not like the treaty. He believes in the Sovereignty of our nation.
  • toni john Kills 2012/05/04 22:14:28
    toni
    Ron Paul doesn't get a vote. Treaties are ratified by the Senateand need a 2/3 vote. Getting this treaty ratified is not looking good.
  • beavith1 toni 2012/05/04 18:32:14
    beavith1
    how would it make the economy worse? exports bring wealth TO the country, versus our buying of others' exports and sending wealth overseas.

    imagine if we bought our oil domestically instead of overseas?

    free trade is a net benefit.
  • Andy Fletcher 2012/05/04 13:58:18
    I think:
    Andy Fletcher
    +3
    As an electrician, and having been involved in construction on military installations since 1980, there are not a lot of materials used that are actually produced in the US. At least not in my trade. The little bit that is is at least twice as expensive with extremely long lead times to get it. We don't have much of a steel industry anymore. The Corps of Engineers LOVES to single source items. One example is a UPS system I just put in at Tinker AFB. They specified batteries that are no longer produced in the USA. Even with them FINALLY accepting an alternate, it was an 11 month lead time.
  • Waldorf 2012/05/04 13:43:02
    I think:
    Waldorf
    +3
    We should not be subsidizing unions and forcing products to be priced without open competition. "Buy American" is inflationary and just causes the tax payer to subsidize certain industries, unions, and areas.

    I am in favor of keeping jobs at home and bringing jobs back home. I am not in favor of the unions' inflationary influence on the economy or in having companies so flush with government money that they present the most sought after jobs. I side with Ronald Reagan, who really addressed this union nonsense originally.
  • BIG BAD... Waldorf 2012/05/04 14:29:01
    BIG BAD JOHN R.
    +1
    I think you need to read the whole article, because that is not what it says. Also if you will check, and this is not in the article, anything that is purchased from foreign production, they have to tear apart and inspect to make sure that they take out all the bugs and other devises that they try to use to steal our nation secrets.
  • Kane Fe... BIG BAD... 2012/05/04 14:40:57
    Kane Fernau
    +2
    I agree with Bob Turner.
  • Cyan9 Waldorf 2012/05/04 15:28:13
    Cyan9
    +2
    I would agree with everything you said except the blind demagoguing of unions. Trade protection is self defeating but it's not unions that are causing the US to suffer.
  • Waldorf Cyan9 2012/05/04 15:32:53
    Waldorf
    +1
    You aren't offering any information to support waving off the concern about unions. Inflation (and yes, jobs) went away as soon as we started contracting to off shore manufacturing.
  • Cyan9 Waldorf 2012/05/04 15:37:53
    Cyan9
    +1
    Do you think if ever single union in this country was outlaw that our labor costs would still not be significantly higher than China's? It has more to do with productivity levels and standards of living than unions. Germany is one of the highest exporting nations in the EU and there union participation rate is several times that of the US. There is also the fact we have stricter labor laws and health regulations. That is we don't allow child labor or as much dumping of pollution in areas. Two labor forces with the same productivity level but with different standards of living would result in two different wages demanded. It's called the income effect which means that as a nation becomes richer the citizens demand more to work. It's also the fact we are significantly more productive than China which contributes to higher wages being demanded. We shouldn't be striving to have a wage level equal to a 2nd world nation. That is completely absurd.
  • Waldorf Cyan9 2012/05/04 15:43:59
    Waldorf
    Time to start quoting what current labor union rates really are, and everyone can decide who has a point. Also consider the labor overhead for insurance programs and which "comfortable" programs are included.
  • Lady Wh... Cyan9 2012/05/04 15:37:47
    Lady Whitewolf
    +2
    "it's not unions that are causing the US to suffer."

    SO true!
  • beavith1 Waldorf 2012/05/04 18:34:07
    beavith1
    right. but not just taxpayers. all consumers.

    the ones that benefit from protectionist policies are the ones that are protected. the rest of us just pay more.
  • lm1b2 2012/05/04 13:17:19
    I think:
    lm1b2
    +1
    Obama promised to change our so called Free Trade Agreements before he was elected to recover jobs that have gone to Foreign Countries,these "Agreements" started with Clinton! So far he has changed not so much as one of these agreements that only favor Corporate America.

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