simple ass...., ya sound like a zionist ass licker but never ya mind, but just try and inform/educate yourself and you can start with President Carter's book, Palestine Peace Not Apartheid found in your local public library or Amazon.com. But probably The Israel Lobby by John Mearsheimer (Univ. of Chicago) and Stephen Walt (Harvard) is the most definitive and comprehensive book regarding our political landscape being held hostage by the pro-Israel crowd which is mostly Jewish and not Christian. I recommend these books as starters only if you read or are able to read beyond your comic books, newspapers and the blogs here at this site. Most zionists are Jews but not all. Even some decent Jews are repulsed by the Israel lobby tail wagging the American dog. Christian zionists are just dumbass evangelical conservative dupe zionist ass lickers anyway and are manipulated like crap but thankfully are in reality a fringe element in the overall picture. I'm just an American and NOT Israeli firster. I'm not into killing little children in Gaza and know that our government supports Israel in doing this and has not condemned it, restrained the zionist bastard state one iota. It is so Un Christian but then again, the Jews are doing the killing and it's old testament implementation of an "eye for an eye" so it wouldn't matter that it's not Christian anyways. The mere fact that such mixture of state and religion is going on over there is another repulsive feature when it's so contrary to our constitution of separation of religion and state. It is contrary to our values as a nation, contrary to our civil rights and contrary to human rights, murdering of innocent children in Gaza AND Lebanon is damn wrong, enough is enough and people are now fed up with it. Dump Israel, it's more trouble than it's worth considering the Muslims have 99% of people, land and resources. Sorry but we've been backing the wrong horse since '48!

Certainly sounds like right out of the "Myth of the Twentieth Century" or "Mein Kampf" to me. Oh, I read those in the original German, by the way. Guess you do believe in the International Jewish Conspiracy from what I've read in your response above. In fact, one would perceive from your writing that you have some real animosity toward Jews. BUT.....I do believe that there should be an autonomous Palestinian State, contrary to your perceptions of my cursory comment, which was directed at it sounding like a National Socialist, not a Liberal Democrat. I have believed for years in a Palestinian State; that was the intent of the UN in the original Partition. Had the Arab States not attacked israel soon after the partition, there probaably would have been. As to the present situation, so far, the Hamas and Hizballah leaderships have decided to lob rockets into Israel; Israel counters. Hamas and Hizballah need to rethink that. You don't continue to bring a knife to a gunfight. If the Palestinian people did not believe in the destruction of Israel, why wouldn't they get rid of those factions responsible for their misery? Don't get me wrong, Israel doesn't have clean hands, either in this conflict, but if somebody repeatedly comes after me with a stick, I will have have a bigger stick, and I'll stop him permanently, or make him incapable of raising a stick against me ever again.

I don't see Israel as being a theocracy, whereas the Palestinians are ruled by their clerics and their interpretation of the Koran, which includes as a plank vowing the destruction of Israel. I actually see that as the biggest roadblock to peace and stabilization in that region. I have been to Israel and to the area of Bethlehem ceded to the Palestinians. It is like night and day. I've seen the checkpoints. One could feel the tension. The day before I went to Jerusalem and Bethlehem, a tourist bus with Western Europeans was attacked by Palestinian "freedom fighters". Not a great way to get sympathy for your cause. I saw no religious trappings in Tel Aviv, nor Jaffa; of course I did in Jerusalem. It's a given,since all three major religions have deep roots there. In Bethlehem, however, the Mosque of Omar dominated the area of the Church of the Nativity and we were just in time for noon prayers. Your perception of Israel fighting because of the "eye for an eye" business in the Torah is false. Israel is pretty much a secular state:


"The organs of government and state power neither derive their legal authority from religion or church nor their legitimation from any divine source. It cannot be claimed with any semblance of realism that state and church are coequal partners in the governance of the state. Indeed, all legal powers of the religious institutions and organs are ultimately devolved upon them by the state. " (Emanuel Gutman, A Religion in Israeli Politics,@ in Jacob Landau, ed., Man, State, and Society in the Contemporary Middle East, NY: Praeger, 1972, p. 123.)

You cannot separate Islam from the state in the Islam world. All governance derives from the Koran. The Israeli Knesset has an Arab party (United Arab List-Ta'al, 4 members). How many Jewish or Israeli parties are represented in each of the Muslim nations? Given, Judaism is the prevalent religion in Israel, but I've not heard of any public stonings for adultery or hangings for being gay. There were bans against those in the Torah. Wish I could say the same for Iran, Afghanistan, or those other theocracies embracing Islam. Oh, I'm not Jewish by the way, although my daughter is married to the son of a holocaust survivor. She was in Dachau from 1943 to 1945, and was liberated at 15 years old. God, how could a conservative right wing bigot allow that to happen? Oh, and I collect WWII German militaria. Guess you got me figured out, right? Like I always say, "liberals aren't."

Have fun stewing in your hate, Lance.