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Obama's job killing EPA continues it's war on American industry forcing coal fired power plants to close. Is Obama a job killing terrorist?

Blackjack 2012/03/10 16:18:19
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  • Steve J~PWCM~JLA 2012/03/12 19:05:47
    yes, explain
    Steve J~PWCM~JLA
    End the EPA. Let the states be stupid, well like CA!!!!
  • Andy 2012/03/12 15:05:03
    yes, explain
    Andy
    Use the proper channels of making items law... When will this stop!?!?!?!?
  • princess 2012/03/11 12:07:35
    yes, explain
    princess
    He's simply following his socialist agenda to DESTROY our economy & country, and to "fundamentally transform" our nation into his socialist utopia.
  • redhorse29 2012/03/11 07:27:18
    yes, explain
    redhorse29
    What is to explain. Obutthead's and his administration's actions say it all.
  • beavith1 2012/03/11 06:19:42
    yes, explain
    beavith1
    +1
    pass a law via Congress, Barack. don't just write administrative law(s) because you can't get a law through Congress, you failure..
  • 2012 Obama 2012/03/11 05:25:08
  • beavith1 2012 Obama 2012/03/11 06:22:25
  • 2012 Obama beavith1 2012/03/11 06:27:59
    2012 Obama
    What part of two nuclear plants, and new cleaner coal plants do you not understand ?

    In 2009, both the National Energy Technology Laboratory (NETL)[i] and the EIA [ii] report new coal-fired plants came on line. According to NETL, 3,218 megawatts of coal-fired power plants came on-line in 2009, the most in one year since 1991. Further, NETL reports that 22 units are in the construction pipeline, while EIA reports that 5 new coal-fired units came on line in just the first 6 months of this year.

    You are just sore because I have exposed your ignorance so now you are trolling my posts!
  • Steve J... 2012 Obama 2012/03/12 19:19:51
    Steve J~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    "3,218 megawatts of coal-fired power plants came on-line in 2009,"

    Did 0 wave a wand to make them appear, or were they approved by Bush?

    Further, page 5 shows nearly no new plants after peaking in 2010. Seeing that it takes several years to build a coal plant, guess the 0 shut it down!!!!!

    http://www.netl.doe.gov/coal/...
  • 2012 Obama Steve J... 2012/03/12 19:46:49
    2012 Obama
    What part of two nuclear plants, and new cleaner coal plants do you not understand ?

    In 2009, both the National Energy Technology Laboratory (NETL)[i] and the EIA [ii] report new coal-fired plants came on line. According to NETL, 3,218 megawatts of coal-fired power plants came on-line in 2009, the most in one year since 1991. Further, NETL reports that 22 units are in the construction pipeline, while EIA reports that 5 new coal-fired units came on line in just the first 6 months of this year.
  • Steve J... 2012 Obama 2012/03/12 19:51:25
    Steve J~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    What about English do you not understand!!!!!!

    I'll try again.

    "3,218 megawatts of coal-fired power plants came on-line in 2009,"

    Did 0 wave a wand to make them appear, or were they approved by Bush?

    Further, page 5 shows nearly no new plants after peaking in 2010. Seeing that it takes several years to build a coal plant, guess the 0 shut it down!!!!!

    http://www.netl.doe.gov/coal/...


    So, your post, is only a teeny, tiny, true.
  • 2012 Obama Steve J... 2012/03/12 19:53:55
    2012 Obama
    Again:

    What part of two nuclear plants, and new cleaner coal plants do you not understand ?

    In 2009, both the National Energy Technology Laboratory (NETL)[i] and the EIA [ii] report new coal-fired plants came on line. According to NETL, 3,218 megawatts of coal-fired power plants came on-line in 2009, the most in one year since 1991. Further, NETL reports that 22 units are in the construction pipeline, while EIA reports that 5 new coal-fired units came on line in just the first 6 months of this year.
  • Steve J... 2012 Obama 2012/03/12 20:23:13
    Steve J~PWCM~JLA
    And what part of a significant decrease from 2008, 2009 and 2010, do you not understand. I attached the actual report.

    "Watts Bar Unit 2
    Construction begun in the 1970s, suspended in 1988 at 80% complete, currently revived with completion due 2012."

    The ONLY Nuke plant currently under Construction, per the report.
  • 2012 Obama Steve J... 2012/03/12 21:16:30
    2012 Obama
    You want instant gratification- get over it, these projects take time and money to bring online.

    I responded to the idiot that thought taking old power plants off line was a bad ide and no new plants were being built.

    You were both wrong and many new clean coal plants, solar, wind, and nuclear al being built as we speak.

    So get back on your hores and ride on cowpoke!
  • Steve J... 2012 Obama 2012/03/12 21:33:12
    Steve J~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    So, when someone proves you are wrong, with the very data you use, you turn childish and insult?


    LOL.

    Grow up.

    Nuclear being built. Only a unit started over 25 years ago. Yep, guess it does take some time.

    Btw, without subsidies and bribes, NO Solar and Wind would be built. LMAO
  • 2012 Obama Steve J... 2012/03/12 21:50:10 (edited)
    2012 Obama
    You did not prove anything was wrong and in fact you posted that these power plants are in the works and being built exacty as I said.

    2,343 MW (6 units at 5 plants) have become operational during 2011 & Jan 2012

    •There has been a net increase of 1,388 MW (+10%) of total Progressing and/or Commissioned projects through 2011 over Progressing projects in January

    Big oil has got subsidies in the billions every year for 50 years and you never complained until alternatve enrgy needs some help getting going!

    Hypocrite on a horse!
  • Steve J... 2012 Obama 2012/03/12 22:00:51 (edited)
    Steve J~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    What subsidies to "Big oil"? Tell me one. Bet you can't name one.

    No refuting the nuke plant? What about the net lose for 2012 of over 1000 MW? No response to the vast reduction occurring after 2010? No response to the reports statement that most plants in planning never get done due to permitting and environmental Nazis behavior?

    Liars can figure, but figures don't lie.
  • 2012 Obama Steve J... 2012/03/12 22:16:28
    2012 Obama
    Read:

    http://blumenauer.house.gov/i...

    The report only goes to January 2012 and does not include plants that are already approved and being built this year.

    Your own report proves you are wrong- so run along lil doggy!
  • Steve J... 2012 Obama 2012/03/12 23:11:40
    Steve J~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Congratulations. You get a biscuit, for being the first person that might have known what some of the "subsidies" are for.

    "End the section 45I credit for producing oil and gas from marginal wells. This tax credit provides a price floor for the production of heavy oil from wells with limited production. High oil prices render this credit inoperable, but it remains on the books. The legislation preserves the credit for small independent oil and gas producers."

    This will provide no additional revenue to the US. As the marginal wells will be sold to "small independents".


    "End the section 43 credit for enhanced oil recovery. This tax credit provides a 15% general business credit to the cost of extracting oil too viscous to be extracted by conventional water-flooding techniques. It also offsets the cost of constructing pipeline facilities, the cost of depreciable property within such projects, and the cost of tertiary injectants. The legislation preserves the credit for small independent oil and gas producers."

    Ditto.


    "End the section 263(c) provision allowing the expensing of intangible drilling costs. This provision allows intangible drilling costs—i.e., wages, fuel, repairs, and supplies related to and necessary for drilling and preparing wells for the production of oil and gas—to b...










































    Congratulations. You get a biscuit, for being the first person that might have known what some of the "subsidies" are for.

    "End the section 45I credit for producing oil and gas from marginal wells. This tax credit provides a price floor for the production of heavy oil from wells with limited production. High oil prices render this credit inoperable, but it remains on the books. The legislation preserves the credit for small independent oil and gas producers."

    This will provide no additional revenue to the US. As the marginal wells will be sold to "small independents".


    "End the section 43 credit for enhanced oil recovery. This tax credit provides a 15% general business credit to the cost of extracting oil too viscous to be extracted by conventional water-flooding techniques. It also offsets the cost of constructing pipeline facilities, the cost of depreciable property within such projects, and the cost of tertiary injectants. The legislation preserves the credit for small independent oil and gas producers."

    Ditto.


    "End the section 263(c) provision allowing the expensing of intangible drilling costs. This provision allows intangible drilling costs—i.e., wages, fuel, repairs, and supplies related to and necessary for drilling and preparing wells for the production of oil and gas—to be deducted in the year they occurred. Non-energy companies must depreciate these costs over time. The legislation preserves expensing for small independent oil and gas producers. This will save taxpayers $5.6 billion over five years."

    This will deter additional exploration here in the US. What 0 wants, and the "savings" will be far less.

    "End the section 613 depletion for oil and gas wells. Oil and gas properties qualify for “percentage depletion,” a deduction of 15% of gross revenues from the well, even if the deduction exceeds the well’s value. Small independent oil and gas producers are held harmless from this change. This will save taxpayers $4.3 billion over five years."

    Depletion? You mean like Depreciating something? Every company in the US is allowed to do that. But not Oil? That doesn't seem fair to single out one industry and penalize them.Savings? LOL. They just won't explore here. Something the 0 wants. Even higher gas prices.


    "End the section 193 deduction for tertiary injectants. Under this rule, oil companies deduct expenses relating to the cost of tertiary injectants during the taxable year, instead of depreciating these costs over a typical cost recovery schedule. The legislation preserves the deduction for small independent oil and gas producers. This will save taxpayers $43 million over five years."

    Why are we singling out "Big Oil"? Do we want them to leave? Higher oil prices.


    "End the Section 901 Foreign Tax Credit loophole for dual capacity oil companies. Dual capacity taxpayers pay both foreign income taxes as well as payments for specific economic benefits. Current rules are loosely drafted, allowing big oil companies, among others, to count lease payments as foreign taxes for purposes of claiming foreign tax credits. The administration’s Fiscal Year 2011 budget scores this change at $3.4 billion over five years; this legislation would be tailored to oil companies, thus reducing those savings."

    So, allow all other multinational companies to take the deduction, but not oil? Is that fair? Higher gas prices.


    "End the section 469 exception for passive loss limitations for oil and gas properties. Taxpayers can shelter active income through passive losses or credits associated with the production of oil and gas, a condition that does not apply to other sources of passive income or credit. The legislation preserves the exception for small independent oil and gas producers. This will save taxpayers $98 million over five years."

    And result in higher gas prices. Also assets will be transferred to smaller independents.


    "End the section 199 domestic manufacturing deduction for oil and gas production. Taxpayers with income from domestic oil and gas activities may deduct a percentage of their gross receipts minus the costs of their production. The legislation preserves the deduction for small independent oil and gas producers. This will save taxpayers $7.3 billion over five years."

    Again, transferring assets to smaller companies, raising gas prices and suppressing exploration here in the US. Job killers.


    "Repeal Last-In, First-Out (LIFO) accounting for the major integrated oil companies. LIFO may be phased out as the U.S. moves to international accounting standards. While it persists, it allows large oil companies to value their inventories at deeply discounted prices. The legislation preserves LIFO for small independent oil and gas producers. The administration’s Fiscal Year 2011 budget scores this change at roughly $22 billion over five years; this legislation would be tailored to oil companies, thus reducing those savings."

    Once again, singling out oil versus all other American businesses. How come they get attacked yet no other industry does? BTW, singling out one industry versus others in unconstitutional.


    "Match the section 167 amortization periods for oil and gas companies at 7 years. Certain companies amortize the costs of exploratory work in two years, while other companies must amortize those same costs over seven years; this change harmonizes this policy at 7 years. It preserves current law for small independent oil and gas producers. This will save taxpayers $858 million over five years."

    Well, that might make sense. So, one thing that makes sense in all the gibberish, with quite a few, that ALL other industries are allowed to do , yet we must punish big oil. Did you know they paid more in taxes to Federal, State and Local Governments than they made last year? Isn't that enough?

    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...

    So, you want higher gas prices? Guess so. Corporations don't pay tax, YOU DO!!!!!!!


    LMAO
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  • beavith1 2012 Obama 2012/03/18 17:26:50
    beavith1
    Steve just schooled you. why so thick?
  • beavith1 2012 Obama 2012/03/18 17:25:44
    beavith1
    clean coal is a lie... two nuclear plants have been approved or are going through the permitting process. thanks to the price of unconventional gas, they may not be constructed.

    the coal plants that have been constructed were permitted and construction started under Bush.

    go on back and see how many have been permitted under Obama?

    i'm not sore. i simply can't believe how thick you are trying to support this guy.
  • yes, explain
    ☆The Rock☆ * AFCL* The Sheriff!!
    He is doing it subtley while the sheep sleep!!!
  • zbacku 2012/03/11 03:38:56
    yes, explain
    zbacku
    +1
    I guess keeping his promise of bankrupting the coal industry is a higher priority than putting Americans back to work.

    Look to have $1000 a month utility bills. We will be burning the trees around us to cook our food and stay warm.

    We are doomed. Why hasn't the Congress Impeached this man????
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/03/11 03:24:41
    yes, explain
    jackolantyrn356
    Conclusion that he is not a Citizen much less he being a born person if American orgim
  • jtjustice 2012/03/11 02:25:54
    yes, explain
    jtjustice
    +1
    This TRAITOR is doing all he can do to collapse the system so he and his COMMUNIST buddies can restart it under a marxist regime...arm yourself or die, the war against the socialist is coming and it will be bloody...
  • CHUCK 2012/03/11 02:20:48 (edited)
    yes, explain
    CHUCK
    +1
    ON THE KLAMATH RIVE ,HE IS REMOVING HYDRO ELECTRIC POWER GENERATING DAMS..

    RAIN
  • mal 2012/03/11 01:03:51
    no, explain
    mal
    +2
    He is a country killing terrorist.
  • Mickey 2012/03/11 00:18:18
    yes, explain
    Mickey
    +1
    He is a loser
  • jwalker 2012/03/10 23:43:42
    yes, explain
    jwalker
    +3
    Tickles me to death too. I am from a huge coal mining state and the union idiots could get to the polls to vote for Barry fast enough. Maybe they'll get their heads out of their butts and pay attention.
  • LADY LIBERTY SILLY WORDSMITH 2012/03/10 23:28:54
    yes, explain
    LADY LIBERTY SILLY WORDSMITH
    +2
    EPA = ENEMY of PEOPLE of AMERICA to be EXACT!

    But the BLAME SHOULD BE ON THE ENABLER;

    WITH THE ONE WHO'S READY TO VETO the PERMISSIONS!

    SORRY, I'M SICK, GET TO GO!
  • ed 2012/03/10 23:27:39
    yes, explain
    ed
    +3
    the worst terrorist of all ,and a socialist one at that.
  • Magdy m... ed 2012/03/11 00:25:56
    Magdy mohamed
    +2
    His administration appears to not care about us.
  • lee 2012/03/10 23:11:16
    no, explain
    lee
    fossil fuels are NOT our future, they are our PAST.

    and because of that PAST there is wreckage left behind that need to be cleaned up.
  • ed lee 2012/03/10 23:29:35
    ed
    +1
    says who?
  • Beagle Mom lee 2012/03/11 01:44:31
    Beagle Mom
    There was a post asking what is made of oil. It isn't just gas, it touches everything we use. Why? Because that is what works. We need to utilize our natural resources while the private sector researches alternatives.
  • lee Beagle Mom 2012/03/11 01:56:24
    lee
    what "works" is what gets the money.... oil&gas gets lots of our federal money, so there are lots of things made from it. that's how it works.

    if we want alternatives, then we need to give that federal money to something ELSE instead of continuing to give it to an industry who is making record profits every quarter...
  • Beagle Mom lee 2012/03/11 02:31:51
    Beagle Mom
    +1
    But so many green companies have gotten federal dollars and have gone under. I would love to see alternatives that work!
  • lee Beagle Mom 2012/03/11 02:38:31
    lee
    how many "green" companies? besides the one everyone keeps talking about?

    alternatives DO work.

    they would work better and come to market faster with gov subsidies.

    we have subsidized oil&gas for all these decades and look where they are now.. pretty much ruling the planet..

    time for something else.
  • zbacku lee 2012/03/11 03:42:35
    zbacku
    The 'green companies' are all BANKRUPT. More 'subsidies'????????
    Billions down the drain not enough for you????
  • lee zbacku 2012/03/11 17:53:36
    lee
    your right we should just all go back to burning wood to keep warm... what was I thinking with all this newfangled "technology"..feh... where has THAT ever got us.

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