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Obama's eligibility and birth certificate on trial TODAY, will Obama be able to prove citizenship or will he get booted from ballot?

davidl 2012/01/26 09:19:07
Obama will be kicked off the ballot
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Birthers rejoice, for first time ever Obama is on trial and his lawyers couldn't get this one tossed. Three hearings today. At stake is nothing less then the presidency.

Obama's fraudulent social security number(s), his alleged fraudulent birth certificate, and his concealed past will come into play. If he loses, he could be ruled ineligible for electoral votes and the ballot in Georgia, and other states will follow.

Read the link at the bottom for more details
Best part, this is all going to be streamed, live, as it happens. It starts at 9 AM EST thursday, January 26 at http://www.art2superpac.com

This thread has many of the court documents to catch up with if you are so inclined to do so.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/pre-trial-evidence-rele...


Read More: http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2012/120125/fr...

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  • Diogenes... Still looking. 2014/01/27 17:24:02
    Undecided
    Diogenes... Still looking.
    Even if he's found to be ineligible for the Presidency, I fear it will not matter. All he needs is a false flag event, so he can declare martial law. Paranoid? I hope so. But history has many examples of similar events happening.
  • Verityman 2012/02/03 04:54:46
    Obama will be kicked off the ballot
    Verityman
    All other attempts at this were disqualified on technicalities. This is the first judge who has been willing to hear the facts. Because the defendant (Obama) did not respond to the charges, he should be found guilty like any other defendant who does not present evident in his defense.
  • davidl Verityman 2012/02/03 06:33:31
    davidl
    This is part of what they wrote in the summary ...

    Plaintiffs assert that based on law and fact, Obama is not eligible to be on the ballot in the state of Georgia as a Presidential candidate and such finding should be forwarded to the Secretary of State of Georgia. Plaintiffs seek their attorneys’ fees and costs. P

    laintiffs also assert that evidence of criminality as well as contempt of court and rule of law exhibited by the defendant, Obama, is so egregious that it warrants forwarding of the evidence and findings of this court to the Attorney General of Georgia for criminal prosecution of Obama for elections fraud, uttering of forged and altered documents, Obstruction of Justice and Social Security fraud.

    Additionally, the evidence submitted to this court warrants forwarding to the immigration and deportation services of the Department of Homeland Security for criminal prosecution; as well as to the U.S. Congress for impeachment for High Crimes and Misdemeanors committed by Defendant, Obama.

    Furthermore, Defendant and his attorney should be held in contempt of court and properly sanctioned for failure to comply with the subpoena duly issued and served on the defendant by the Plaintiffs counsel, Orly Taitz.

    Aforementioned subpoena was found to be valid when this court denied D...
    This is part of what they wrote in the summary ...

    Plaintiffs assert that based on law and fact, Obama is not eligible to be on the ballot in the state of Georgia as a Presidential candidate and such finding should be forwarded to the Secretary of State of Georgia. Plaintiffs seek their attorneys’ fees and costs. P

    laintiffs also assert that evidence of criminality as well as contempt of court and rule of law exhibited by the defendant, Obama, is so egregious that it warrants forwarding of the evidence and findings of this court to the Attorney General of Georgia for criminal prosecution of Obama for elections fraud, uttering of forged and altered documents, Obstruction of Justice and Social Security fraud.

    Additionally, the evidence submitted to this court warrants forwarding to the immigration and deportation services of the Department of Homeland Security for criminal prosecution; as well as to the U.S. Congress for impeachment for High Crimes and Misdemeanors committed by Defendant, Obama.

    Furthermore, Defendant and his attorney should be held in contempt of court and properly sanctioned for failure to comply with the subpoena duly issued and served on the defendant by the Plaintiffs counsel, Orly Taitz.

    Aforementioned subpoena was found to be valid when this court denied Defendant's motion to quash the subpoena and Defendant was obligated to appear in court and provide certified copies of his identification records. Obama and his attorney, member of Georgia bar Michael Jablonski, are in contempt of court, as they failed to appear and did not produce any documents attesting to Obama's eligibility.
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  • jimrthy BN-0 2012/01/28 16:49:37
    Undecided
    jimrthy BN-0
    Personally, I believe he was born here. I think all these inconsistencies are a smoke screen to hide bigger controversies. I mean, seriously...do TPTB *really* think they could pull off a scam like this?

    I think that's a really scary thought. If they honestly think we're this stupid, what have they gotten away with that no one noticed?

    If the judge rules against him (and I don't see how he could possibly rule in Obama's favor at this point) it will be one of the biggest Constitutional crises in American history. I could definitely see this leading to another civil war. I don't think we're all that far from one anyway, but this would be fought for all the wrong reasons.
  • davidl jimrthy... 2012/01/28 18:20:44
    davidl
    It depends on how many people were involved (assuming, of course the original birth certificate doesn't exist in the official records .. don't forget NOBODY has testified in court of law that they have seen it)

    So if Obama, Rahm, Ayers, and a few people in Hawaii (plus Obama's attorneys) did this w/o knowledge of DNC leadership, then the DNC will survive and the history books will make this as the crime of the century type of thing.

    However, if the Clintons, Pelosi, Reed, and DNC leadership were in on it, then it WILL be a much bigger deal, and it will pretty much kill the DNC party for a few election cycles.

    I've got suspicions, which I emphasise suspicions, that the clintons must have known, and that so many people had to be involved that they felt it best to keep their mouths quiet, and Hillary got a cabinet appointment out of the deal. Had they exposed this, then nobody would believe it, and they are still loyal DNC party members so they felt best interest in the country to let it all blow over.
  • marylou5 davidl 2012/01/28 20:13:16
    marylou5
    +2
    Dishonesty, lies and deception are unfortunately rampant to move along up the ladder of politics.

    The perks at the top that the Congress voted for themselves at the expense of the American taxpayer encourages deceit! It opens the gate to permanent pension, healthcare, insider trickery and a lifetime spot at the public trough!

    Amazing how many commoners leave Congress millionaires!
  • jimrthy... davidl 2012/01/29 22:26:05
    jimrthy BN-0
    This is why I suspect it's all a smokescreen.

    If it isn't...put your head between your legs and prepare for a crash landing.
  • mowerman-back to bust libs 2012/01/27 05:47:47
    Undecided
    mowerman-back to bust libs
    +1
    I sure hope GA takes this all the way to the point of proving one way or the other to finally put this to rest. If Obummer refuses to comply with the court kick him off the ballot!!!!
  • Yo'Adrienne..AFCL 2012/01/26 20:40:48
    Obama will be kicked off the ballot
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +1
    The only choice that even came close to my wishes, and hopes was the one I chose. Ii CAN'T WAIT....for the day, in the event that this was the GREATEST scam on the
    American people in the history of our country.........., when he bows his head in shame
    and goes back to Chicago.....or KENYA...but my feeling is that it will be something like
    the Nicola Tesla story. After Tesla's death, in 1943 the US Government rightfully gave him the patent rights to all the inventions that "Lyin'cheatin' stealin-greedy" Thomas Edison took from him....TOO little ..... too late....!
  • jimrthy... Yo'Adri... 2012/01/28 16:43:18
    jimrthy BN-0
    Well, this wasn't as big a scam as social security or the federal reserve. But it seems to rank up there.
  • JAKE~PWCM~JLA 2012/01/26 20:08:13
    Undecided
    JAKE~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    If it sounds too good to be true it probably is.
  • davidl JAKE~PW... 2012/01/29 07:32:38 (edited)
    davidl
    This is some of the sworn testimony. Is it too good to be true now? Or are there a heck of a lot of Barack Obamas living in Chicago all born on the same day (this list is 8 pages long, BTW)

    Oh, look the same land line phone number goes to different addresses as well.

    sfas
    55555
  • JAKE~PW... davidl 2012/01/29 07:36:14
    JAKE~PWCM~JLA
    I mean that the chances of him being kicked out of office are too good to be true.
  • davidl JAKE~PW... 2012/01/29 07:42:17
    davidl
    I think that once GA rules against him in early February, then the MSM won't be able to spike the story, and when all this testimony comes out, they'll crucify him just like Wiener.

    The press may be biased, but if you lie to them, like Wiener did, and it is obvious you are lying, then they show no mercy.
  • JAKE~PW... davidl 2012/01/29 07:56:42 (edited)
    JAKE~PWCM~JLA
    Obama is different. Wiener was expendable. So was Blago, he was crucified to PROTECT Obama and keep the blame off of him. I just don't see it happening.
  • davidl JAKE~PW... 2012/01/29 18:01:36
    davidl
    Obama is expendable too ... if it means throwing him under the bus in the name of damage control.

    Either Obama, Rahm, and a few people in Hawaii did this all by themselves and duped the DNC, or the DNC KNEW he was a fraud but put him on the ballot anyway, thinking they could get away with it.

    The former gives us a brilliant traitor who pulled off the biggest scam in the history of our country, and lied to the press who kept trying to expose him

    Or, we have institutionalized fraud on the part of the DNC, Union leaders, and the press.

    How do you think the press will report this?
  • keeper 2012/01/26 19:06:15
    Obama will be kicked off the ballot
    keeper
    +2
    I sure hope he has his "cumuppance"!!!
  • davidl keeper 2012/01/26 19:18:03
    davidl
    +2
    We'll see, no idea when it is ruled on, but no matter what, we have people who went on oath who legitimize all those claims about the birth certificate, and his fraudulent past.
  • keeper davidl 2012/01/26 19:29:37
    keeper
    +2
    Hope this doesn't get buried like the rest of his illegalities...
  • davidl keeper 2012/01/26 19:35:32
    davidl
    +2
    Just found out that ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX were there and they interviewed one of the attorneys.
  • keeper davidl 2012/01/27 01:14:21
    keeper
    +1
    I wonder if they will report on it... it is NEWS!!
  • marylou5 keeper 2012/01/28 20:18:34
    marylou5
    +1
    Surely you jest!
  • marylou5 davidl 2012/01/28 20:18:04
    marylou5
    Ruling expected the first week of February from the Sec of State whether or not Obama
    will be allowed on the ballot in GA.

    Since obama did not respond to the subpoena to produce the evidence...he should be toast!
  • Dagon 2012/01/26 18:43:03 (edited)
  • Patrioticprincess 2012/01/26 18:17:52
    Undecided
    Patrioticprincess
    +1
    He will stay on the ballot.
  • Dave**Gay for Girls** 2012/01/26 17:09:56
  • CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY 2012/01/26 16:42:40
    Undecided
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +3
    Nothing, will come of this.

    Trust me.
  • jimrthy... CUDDLY ... 2012/01/28 16:40:33
    jimrthy BN-0
    +1
    I can't imagine how the judge could come up with an excuse to rule in Obama's favor. He should be cited for contempt for ignoring the subpoena. Since his lawtwister didn't show up to argue, the judge doesn't have anything to consider except the evidence against him.

    Either way, this has now officially gotten scary.
  • Will Advocate of PHAET 2012/01/26 14:26:11 (edited)
    Undecided
    Will Advocate of  PHAET
    +4
    His lawyers have already stated that he will not be present at the trial. Not sure what the judge will do at that point. I doubt it matters if he is on the GA ballot or not, so other than making a few people feel good, I don't see much happening today.
  • davidl Will Ad... 2012/01/26 14:27:34
    davidl
    +3
    You don't think if he is kicked off that every red state is going to rubber-stamp similar legislation ASAP?
  • Will Ad... davidl 2012/01/26 14:34:32
    Will Advocate of  PHAET
    +4
    If that happens, it would mean something. Lets see what happens today first. I tend to keep my expectations low in this area.
  • marylou5 Will Ad... 2012/01/28 20:22:29
    marylou5
    +1
    My expectations are high...it's whether the law will be followed is where my expectations are low!
    Is there any one left that that will insist that Constitutional law is the law of the land and must be followed.
    We obviously can't count on our cowardly Congress. They all have their own secrets!
  • Yo'Adri... davidl 2012/01/26 20:42:18
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +2
    I think it is a possibility..................... I say this with alot of HOPE....and nothing more.
  • jimrthy... davidl 2012/01/28 16:37:14
    jimrthy BN-0
    I don't think the red states matter much. Pretty much by definition, he isn't getting those electors anyway. It's the swing (or, even worse) blue states where this might make a difference.
  • davidl Will Ad... 2012/01/26 16:46:21 (edited)
    davidl
    +7
    It just ended for today. Obama & lawyers were a no show, his lawyers wrote they didn't have jurisdiction (via documentation, Sec of state pretty much replied with do so at your own risk, and GA state court says they do have jurisdiction as this is a state election)

    - The PI who chased down socials said she'd never seen so much fraud, multiple SSNs in different states, he was playing basketball in school in Hawaii one month, got a social in CT while still enrolled in Hawaii the next month. No way was that possible it could be legit, she said.

    - Then birth certificate fraud on multiple levels... The adobe guy of course said what everybody knew, but then they got into things like Hawaii state law has birth certificates being recorded in a large binder

    Obama's "birth certificate" would have had to been scanned from the book, but no curvature at the edges, so it is impossible it came out of the book. Better yet, the serial number is no good as they have other birth certificate from same day and sequence number makes it impossible.

    But now testimony makes it obvious that officials in Hawaii committed fraud. They illegally certified a birth certificate that violates Hawaii law due to fact that it wasn't in the "big book"

    (Plausable deniability perhaps? But now testimony ma...

    It just ended for today. Obama & lawyers were a no show, his lawyers wrote they didn't have jurisdiction (via documentation, Sec of state pretty much replied with do so at your own risk, and GA state court says they do have jurisdiction as this is a state election)

    - The PI who chased down socials said she'd never seen so much fraud, multiple SSNs in different states, he was playing basketball in school in Hawaii one month, got a social in CT while still enrolled in Hawaii the next month. No way was that possible it could be legit, she said.

    - Then birth certificate fraud on multiple levels... The adobe guy of course said what everybody knew, but then they got into things like Hawaii state law has birth certificates being recorded in a large binder

    Obama's "birth certificate" would have had to been scanned from the book, but no curvature at the edges, so it is impossible it came out of the book. Better yet, the serial number is no good as they have other birth certificate from same day and sequence number makes it impossible.

    But now testimony makes it obvious that officials in Hawaii committed fraud. They illegally certified a birth certificate that violates Hawaii law due to fact that it wasn't in the "big book"

    (Plausable deniability perhaps? But now testimony makes it obvious that officials in Hawaii committed fraud)

    P.S. the social he is using now belongs to some dead guy. obama jail
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  • Will Ad... davidl 2012/01/26 16:48:48
    Will Advocate of  PHAET
    +3
    Very interesting!!!
  • marylou5 davidl 2012/01/28 20:25:32
    marylou5
    +1
    Thank you for telling us what we will never read in the MSM!
    The free press sold their soul.
  • davidl marylou5 2012/01/28 21:32:38
    davidl
    +1
    They've reported it, but the bulk of it is personal attack. You would think they would even mention that there is sworn testimony that Obama is a fraud.

    No matter, the judge is going to rule after both sides have a last chance effort of sending him their arguments.

    If the judge rules against Obama and he is ineligible, then it will be difficult to spike the story. Just like the blue dress. They held onto it as long as they could.
  • marylou5 davidl 2012/01/29 05:42:55
    marylou5
    Patience is indeed a virtue!
  • ☆ QueenAline 2012/01/26 14:24:31
    Undecided
    ☆ QueenAline
    +4
    hope he's kicked off...but that's not going to happen...he's already the dictator...this proves it..No one is above the law...exccpt the obama administration

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