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Obama's "Buffet Rule" farce - it wouldn't pay for ONE DAY of the deficits Obama has been running!

Ken 2012/04/14 00:56:51
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WASHINGTON – Here we go again.






CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER; THE WASHINGTON
POST


Published: 04/13/12 12:05 am














WASHINGTON – Here we go again.


At the beginning of his presidency, Barack Obama argued that the
country’s spiraling debt was largely the result of exploding
health care costs. That was true. He then said the cure for these
exploding costs would be his health care reform. That was not true.


It was obvious at the time that it could never be true. If
government gives health insurance to 33 million uninsured, that
costs. Costs a lot. There’s no free lunch.


Now we know. The Congressional Budget Office’s latest estimate
is that Obamacare will add $1.76 trillion in federal expenditures
through 2022. And, as one of the Medicare trustees has just made
clear, if you don’t double count the $575 billion set aside for
the Medicare trust fund, Obamacare adds to the already crushing
national debt.


Three years later, we are back to smoke and mirrors. This time
it’s not health care but the Buffett Rule, which would impose a
minimum 30 percent effective tax rate on millionaires. Here is how
Obama introduced it last September:


“Warren Buffett’s secretary shouldn’t pay a (higher) tax
rate than Warren Buffett. ... And that basic principle of fairness,
if applied to our tax code, could raise enough money” to
“stabilize our debt and deficits for the next decade. ... This is
not politics; this is math.”


OK. Let’s do the math. The Joint Committee on Taxation
estimates this new tax would yield between $4 billion and $5 billion
a year. If we collect the Buffett tax for the next 250 years –
a span longer than the life of this republic – it would not cover
the Obama deficit for 2011 alone.


As an approach to our mountain of debt, the Buffett Rule is a
farce. And yet Obama repeated the ridiculous claim again this week.
“It will help us close our deficit.” Does he really think we’re
that stupid?


Hence the fallback: The Buffett Rule is a first step in tax
reform. On the contrary. It’s a substitute for tax reform, an
evasion of tax reform. In three years, Obama hasn’t touched tax
(or, for that matter, entitlement) reform, and clearly has no
intention to. The Buffett Rule is nothing but a form of
redistributionism that has vanishingly little to do with debt
reduction and everything to do with re-election.


As such, it’s clever. It deftly channels the sentiment
underlying Occupy Wall Street (original version, before its
slovenly, whiny, aggressive weirdness made it politically toxic). It
perfectly pits the 99 percent against the 1 percent. Indeed, it is
OWS translated into legislation, something the actual occupiers
never had the wit to come up with.


Clever politics, but in terms of economics, it’s worse than
useless. It’s counterproductive. The reason Buffett and Mitt
Romney pay roughly 15 percent in taxes is that their income is
principally capital gains. The Buffett Rule is, in fact, a disguised
tax hike on capital gains. But Obama prefers to present it as just
an alternative minimum tax because 50 years of economic history show
that raising the capital gains tax backfires: It reduces federal
revenues, while lowering the tax raises revenues.


No matter. Obama had famously said in 2008 that even if that’s
the case, he’d still raise the capital gains tax – for the sake
of fairness.


For Obama, fairness is the supreme social value. And fairness is
what he is running on – although he is not prepared to come clean
on its price. Or even acknowledge that there is a price. Instead,
Obama throws in a free economic lunch for all. “This is not just
about fairness,” he insisted on Wednesday. “This is also about
growth.”


Growth? The United States has the highest corporate tax rate in
the industrialized world. Now, in the middle of a historically weak
recovery, Obama wants to raise our capital gains tax to the
fourth-highest. No better way to discourage investment – and the
jobs and growth that come with it.


Three years ago, Obama promised universal health care that saves
money. Today, he offers a capital gains tax hike that spurs economic
growth. This is free-lunch egalitarianism.


The Buffett Rule redistributes deck chairs on the Titanic,
ostensibly to make more available for those in steerage. Nice idea,
but the iceberg cometh. The enterprise is an exercise in
misdirection – a distraction not just from Obama’s dismal record
on growth and unemployment but, more importantly, from his
dereliction of duty in failing to this day to address the utterly
predictable and devastating debt crisis ahead.





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U.S. Budget
Deficit Widened to $198B in March

By Meera Louis on April 11, 2012







The U.S. government’s budget deficit widened 5.3 percent in
March, as outlays increased on recurring benefit payments and a
subsidy re-estimate for the Troubled Asset Relief Program.


The shortfall expanded to $198.2 billion from $188.2 billion a
year earlier, the Treasury Department said today. Economists
projected a $196 billion gap, according to the median estimate in
a Bloomberg News survey.





http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-04-11/u-dot-s-dot-budget-deficit-widened-to-198-dot-2-billion-in-march



$196 billion/31 days = $6.3 billion per day!


That's $6.3
billion a day! Obama's class warfare-based “Buffet Rule”, yielding an estimated $4 - $5 billion a year, wouldn't
pay for even one day of the deficits he is running up! Add to that
the admitted fact that Obama's effective increase in the capital
gains tax rate would most likely yield less, not more revenue*, and
you can see that all Obama is practicing is class warfare, an attempt
to divided American voters by income. He obviously can't run on his
miserable economic record so he is attempting to divide and conquer!





GIBSON:
All right. You have, however,
said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a
matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, "I certainly
would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton," which was
28 percent. It's now 15 percent. That's almost a doubling, if you
went to 28 percent. But actually, Bill Clinton, in 1997, signed
legislation that dropped the capital gains tax to 20 percent.


OBAMA:
Right.

GIBSON:
And George Bush has taken it
down to 15 percent.


OBAMA:
Right.

GIBSON:
And in each instance, when the
rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in
more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28
percent, the revenues went down.


So why raise it at all,
especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own
stock and would be affected?


OBAMA:
Well, Charlie, what I've said
is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of
fairness.


In other words, Obama's tax
plans have nothing to do with the economy and everything to do with
his socialistic, egalitarianism!



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  • Kane Fernau 2012/04/14 01:09:30
    Same lying SOB we've come to know and despise over the past three years!
    Kane Fernau
    +9
    The Bolshevik Revolution was an uprising of the poor against the rich. Obama wants to be compared to Reagan but he's more like Lenin.

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  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/04/21 23:22:40
    All of the above
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +1
    The only purpose of the Buffet Rule is to stop other people from getting rich.
  • Uranos7 2012/04/17 01:52:35
    Same lying SOB we've come to know and despise over the past three years!
    Uranos7
    +1
    As long as Obama says I am going to take some of that guys stuff and give it to you.
    People will believe him, and then when it doesn't happen he points at the republican minority in congress and say they wouldn't let me give it to you.
  • Quazimoto 2012/04/15 17:48:06
    What? You expected something different from the narcissistic Marxist?
    Quazimoto
    +1
    Don't let facts get in the way of this narcissist.
  • Ken Quazimoto 2012/04/16 04:31:57
    Ken
    The media is saying what a smart campaign tactic it is - and I say only if over 50% of American voters are dumber than dirt.
  • MadAsHEck 2012/04/14 20:40:07
    None of the above
    MadAsHEck
    +2
    Whats really funny is naming it the "Buffet Rule" after the CEO of a company that hides most of his wealth overseas, and whose company owes billions in back taxes since about 2002.
  • Ken MadAsHEck 2012/04/15 05:25:12
    Ken
    +1
    So true! Did you see that Obama also pays a lower tax rate than his secretary in the White House?
  • Ron in Oregon 2012/04/14 19:56:24
    All of the above
    Ron in Oregon
    +1
    The vote will say it all.
  • marylou5 2012/04/14 16:01:31 (edited)
    All of the above
    marylou5
    +2
    ATTENTION:

    Anytime, anyone feels they are not paying enough taxes, there is a process that allows you to pay more, why haven't they done it?

    These billionaires and millionaires can donate to the government, and thousands of good causes, like the Cancer society to eradicate cancer etc etc etc if they are drowning in guilt from not paying their fair share.

    The truth is they are not drowning in guilt!

    Obama and CO will give them more tax breaks like he did GE and then they will pay nothing!!
  • Ken marylou5 2012/04/15 05:26:38
    Ken
    +1
    I would just love to see these Hollywood actors who don't feel they are taxed enough, e.g. Matt Damon, Ben Afleck, Alec Baldwin, et al, just volunteer to give half of all their earnings to the federal government.
  • marylou5 Ken 2012/04/15 06:48:10
    marylou5
    +1
    Talk is cheap!
    Actions count!
    There will be more talk but no action:-)

    Count on it...there will be no Millionaires or Billionaires donating one penny of tax
    that is not required!! Not that anyone should, but they should stop blowing hot air!
  • Ken marylou5 2012/04/16 04:34:46
    Ken
    +1
    Do you mean that George Clooney with his villa on Lake Como in Italy won't be spending in a few extra bucks?
    george clooney villa lake como italy spending extra bucks
  • marylou5 Ken 2012/04/16 17:31:03 (edited)
    marylou5
    +1
    Guess not! But maybe if we ask nicely he'll let us use it, free, some weekend?Preferably when he is away!
  • Ken marylou5 2012/04/16 21:31:14
    Ken
    +1
    LOL - I doubt he's there more than 2 months out of a year.
  • Seonag 2012/04/14 14:34:16
    All of the above
    Seonag
    +5
    Why isn't the President shouting about all the corporations that don't pay ANY Income Tax at all? Like GE or DuPont. (Remember their CEO's are BIG supporters of Obama.) Because it doesn't 'divide' the country or serve his purpose of class warfare (Buffet Rule) or green energy (removing deductions from the oil companies). He's a divider and will use it to the fullest to attempt to win this election.
  • BackWoo... Seonag 2012/04/14 15:56:13
    BackWoodsMike
    +2
    I agree with you on GE, but as a former Engineering Manager, retired from DuPont, I can tell you that the taxes and fees paid by my old Company far exceeds what you might think.
  • Seonag BackWoo... 2012/04/14 16:31:44
    Seonag
    +3
    But the past couple of years DuPont has paid no Income Tax. I know they have paid sales tax here in TN --- they have a new group in India handling their purchasing and that group messed up the sales tax/non-taxable items. Therefore, Delawar had all project managers go through everything on their projects to determine what is taxable, what is not, and what the tax should be. So much for 'outsorcing' saving money because it took valuable time (and therefore wages) away from the project managers.
  • BackWoo... Seonag 2012/04/14 17:01:16
    BackWoodsMike
    +1
    That is only one business out of the hundreds of businesses that the DuPont Corporation has.

    That situation has nothing to do with support of Obama or any democrat. In fact, the DuPont PAC contributes more to republicans than to democrats.

    The link below shows the number of contributions by DuPont to both parties.

    Note: Contributions to republicans are greater than those to democrats.

    - - -
    DuPont Co Summary
    http://www.opensecrets.org/pa...

    http://www.opensecrets.org/pa...

    Here is a photo of the last DuPont Site I worked at, that the people who worked for me in Delaware signed when I made the move to TN.

    glasgowsite
  • Seonag BackWoo... 2012/04/14 17:20:27
    Seonag
    +2
    Did see Ellen Kullman on the stage with Obama when he said some shovel ready jobs weren't shovel ready and she laughed? From what I hear, the Board was NOT happy about that at all.
  • BackWoo... Seonag 2012/04/14 18:14:34
    BackWoodsMike
    +2
    My friend, all I can tell you is that I'm a Conservative... not a republican, but will vote for the GOP candidate in November, which will break my record of not voting for a republican presidential candidate in the past 30+ years, was a Senior Engineering Manager, and although Kullman made the mistake of contributing more to the DNC than the RNC (a mistake I don't believe she will make again), every Executive that I worked for, and most of the Engineers who worked for me, were Conservative.
  • Ken BackWoo... 2012/04/15 05:30:09
    Ken
    +1
    Thanks for the great info Mike!
  • Ken Seonag 2012/04/15 05:28:22
    Ken
    +1
    Very astute -- "Divide and conquer" should be the Obama campaign motto to replace "Yes we can!"



    Obama divide and conquer
  • BackWoodsMike 2012/04/14 14:29:52 (edited)
    Same lying SOB we've come to know and despise over the past three years!
    BackWoodsMike
    +3
    What needs to happen is that the successful men and women in our Country should suspend all investing, making it clear that they will only resume if the threat of tax hikes are removed (which means a change in presidents in November), and each Business and Company posts a sign like this..

    notice1

    Maybe then will Americans realize what damage Obama and the rest of the “anti success” liberals are causing to our economy.

    Seven months or so (until election day) of no investments, and increased unemployment should prove what and who drives a strong economy (hint.. it's not government).

    If I were a Business or Company owner, in order to make up the loss in income due to increase in taxes, I would reduce my work force, laying off those who support Obama and his class warfare agenda first.

    If they cry about it... tough sh!t... it's their own doing.
  • marylou5 BackWoo... 2012/04/14 15:23:52
    marylou5
    +3
    This works for me..........and incidentally the rest of America, as well!
    Well done!
  • Murph 65 BackWoo... 2012/04/14 17:56:08
    Murph 65
    +2
    Sounds like a good plan to me.
  • ruthann... Murph 65 2012/04/14 18:26:53
    ruthannhausman
    +3
    Ditto on that.
  • Murph 65 ruthann... 2012/04/14 18:34:55
    Murph 65
    +1
    Hello, hello, hello. Whatcha doin'?
  • ruthann... Murph 65 2012/04/14 19:12:44
    ruthannhausman
    +2
    Duh, you silly pooh, whatcha think I'm doin'?
  • Murph 65 ruthann... 2012/04/14 19:28:09
    Murph 65
    +1
    I think you're SH'ing instead of IRS'ing!!!!!!! Get on it.
  • ruthann... Murph 65 2012/04/15 18:52:19
    ruthannhausman
    +1
    nanny, nanny boo-boo, so what? Hah!
  • Murph 65 ruthann... 2012/04/16 13:55:09
    Murph 65
    I'm waiting, I'm waiting, I'm waiting, I'm waiting...ho-hum.
  • BackWoo... Murph 65 2012/04/14 18:34:48
    BackWoodsMike
    +1
    The thing is, some Investors and Business/Company owners are doing this now because of the speculation of the Obama tax hikes, it's just that they are not publicizing the reason enough.
  • Murph 65 BackWoo... 2012/04/14 18:35:32
    Murph 65
    +1
    Well, we need to get them to put the word out big time.
  • BackWoo... Murph 65 2012/04/14 18:43:52
    BackWoodsMike
    +1
    I would love to see, each Company or Business that is cutting back and laying off people, and every Investor who has cut back on their investments in those Companies that hire, put a full page ad in the NY times, Washington Post, LA Times and every other liberal propaganda tabloid, making it clear as to why they are forced to cut back..
  • ruthann... BackWoo... 2012/04/14 19:15:22
    ruthannhausman
    +1
    Fantastic idea! I wonder if a group of folks couldn't get together and somehow, using the Internet skills that everybody except me seems to have, compile a list of these businesses and, with their permission, list them under the ads you cite. Maybe that'll wake some of these brain-dead Obama supporters who just flat out don't see through the crap he's dishing out.
  • Ken BackWoo... 2012/04/15 05:42:43
    Ken
    +1
    It is a fact that higher tax rates change people's investing methods, which is the reason that higher capital gains tax rates don't usually result in higher tax revenues. With Obama treating his "Buffet rule" like some "alternative minimum tax" for the wealthy, I wonder how many will seek offshore shelter.

    What people don't realize is that when the government is "borrowing" all of the available capital, there is little left to fund private entrepreneurs, the engine of our economy that creates around 75% of all private sector jobs.

    We have a government that is spending over $4 billion more every day than the government takes in in taxes. In March the deficit was $196 billion, over $6.3 billion every single day, and Obama is pushing his "Buffet Rule" tax plan as the savior of our economy -- the Wall Street Journal says it will bring in between $4 and $5 billion a year, not enough to fund one day of Obama's deficit spending! Yet when a serious plan is put forward by Congressman Paul Ryan, NBC's hack reporter Ann Curry rips it, questioning "where is the compassion?"

    Not only is the deficit spending seriously slowing the growth of the economy, it is also creating tremendous inflation. The only reason our government is reporting inflation of 2% - 3% is that they removed energy (ga...

    It is a fact that higher tax rates change people's investing methods, which is the reason that higher capital gains tax rates don't usually result in higher tax revenues. With Obama treating his "Buffet rule" like some "alternative minimum tax" for the wealthy, I wonder how many will seek offshore shelter.

    What people don't realize is that when the government is "borrowing" all of the available capital, there is little left to fund private entrepreneurs, the engine of our economy that creates around 75% of all private sector jobs.

    We have a government that is spending over $4 billion more every day than the government takes in in taxes. In March the deficit was $196 billion, over $6.3 billion every single day, and Obama is pushing his "Buffet Rule" tax plan as the savior of our economy -- the Wall Street Journal says it will bring in between $4 and $5 billion a year, not enough to fund one day of Obama's deficit spending! Yet when a serious plan is put forward by Congressman Paul Ryan, NBC's hack reporter Ann Curry rips it, questioning "where is the compassion?"

    Not only is the deficit spending seriously slowing the growth of the economy, it is also creating tremendous inflation. The only reason our government is reporting inflation of 2% - 3% is that they removed energy (gasoline!) and food from the equation for increases in the "cost of living", because they are "too volatile." The two major contributors to the cost of living aren't even included in calculating it!

    When energy and food prices are considered inflation has been well into double digits over the past three years. The loss of the buying power of the dollar can be seen in the near doubling of the price of gold during the Obama administration, from just over $800 an ounce when he was sworn in to over $1600 an ounce today.
    (more)
  • OPOA912 2012/04/14 14:04:52
    All of the above
    OPOA912
    +4
    This is what you get when someone elects a community organizer to the white house. If anyone thinks were better today than four years ago, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.
  • ruthann... OPOA912 2012/04/14 19:23:22
    ruthannhausman
    +1
    No you don't, I sold that long ago to a visitor from Beijing whose company operates customer service phone centers out of Pakistan and banks in the Cayman Islands. But I outsmarted the old boy, I put in a clause that prohibited the new owner from charging any kind of rent on bridge users. Smart, huh? Uh-oh, I forgot. They added an expiration date that corresponds with the Bush tax cuts. Whoops. That's all right, nobody will be able to afford the gas drive over the damn thing anyway.
  • OPOA912 ruthann... 2012/04/16 01:27:00
    OPOA912
    +1
    Between OZbama's vacations, white house parties and fund raisers using Air Force 1 I'm surprized we have any money left to pay the light bill in Congress.
  • Ken OPOA912 2012/04/16 04:35:46
    Ken
    We don't, we're living on borrowed money and worthless printed paper.
  • ruthann... OPOA912 2012/04/16 14:04:15
    ruthannhausman
    That's a start in the right direction: don't pay the light bill for Congress. They're just wasting the electricity anyway.

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