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Obama's budget lies so blatant even the liberal Washington Post awards him "Three Pinocchios!"

Ken 2012/05/29 23:17:48
Obama and the White House's 'halfway' fixation with the budget





By

Glenn Kessler










"My administration has already put forward specific cuts that meet
congressional Republicans halfway. And I'm prepared to do more."

-- President Obama, weekly radio address, March 5, 2011

The White House was not happy last week when we gave two Pinocchios
to Democrats for persistently saying they have gone "halfway" to GOP
proposals on cutting the 2011 fiscal year budget. We also suggested that
the "halfway" phrase would be worth more Pinocchios if President Obama
began to use it.

He did so in his weekly radio address, but not
before the White House gave the Fact Checker a bunch of data and charts
trying to make the administration's case for using the phrase.
So let's
review the issue again, and see how persuasive their argument is.

The Facts

It
really comes down to where you draw the line -- the budget baseline.
Democrats like to draw the line at the president's proposal for 2011,
even though it was never enacted. Under that measure, Republicans would
cut about $100 billion and Democrats some $50 billion. That's where the
"halfway" comes from.

Republicans -- and much
of the news media -- measure the cuts from the 2010 budget, the last one
signed into law. Under that scoring, the Republicans have cut $60
billion and the Democrats about $10 billion. The two sides are still $50
billion apart, but under this scenario, the Democrats have barely
budged.

White House officials have argued that it makes sense to
compare one proposal -- the president's 2011 budget request -- with
another proposal, the House 2011 bill. But that argument has gained
little traction in official Washington.

The White House has now
come up with a third way of drawing the line: the 2010 budget, adjusted
for inflation. This is not unreasonable, since inflation means a dollar
one year does not buy as much as the next year. (This "inflated
baseline" provided by the White House has an additional wrinkle -- an
extra $5.5 billion to ensure Pell grants for college remain at a full
$4,850 award -- but that is a bit complicated to explain, so we will
leave that aside for the moment.)

Under this scenario, the discretionary budget for fiscal 2011 would have been $1.117 trillion, all things being equal.

Here's how the different budget proposals compare when adjusted for this new line:


President's original 2011 proposal: +$12 billion

Latest Democratic proposal: -$39 billion

House Republicans: -$91 billion


These
numbers show that the president's proposal certainly would have been an
increase over inflation. But they also appear to show that the
Democrats have moved even more toward the GOP position, though not quite
"halfway."

To some extent, this is all semantics. No matter how you measure it, the two sides are always about $50 billion apart.

However,
we are not convinced by the White House presentation. The inflated
baseline helps demonstrate that even a "freeze" would mean a cut in some
spending, but it still makes more sense to compare the 2011 proposals
to the 2010 numbers.

Certainly, cuts along the lines of what the
House Republicans have proposed would be substantial. The Center on
Budget and Policy Priorities, a left-leaning group respected for its
number-crunching, recently tallied up a list that documents the potential impact on poorer Americans.

We
also did some rough calculations to compare the current GOP plan to the
$16 billion in budget cuts (known as recissions) made by congressional
Republicans in 1995. All things being equal, the current House bill
appears to be about three times as large as the bill that President Bill
Clinton signed into law (after first vetoing an earlier version). That
bill cut the budget by about 3 percent, or 0.2 percent of the gross
domestic product; this proposal would reduce the budget about 8 percent,
or 0.75 percent of GDP.

But has the White House offered
"specific cuts," as the president asserted? That's not quite accurate,
especially compared with the detailed cutbacks in the House bill. In
fact, that's where the White House's arguments breaks down. The specific
trims offered by Democrats amount to just $10.5 billion.

The president made a number of other questionable comments elsewhere in his radio address.

Obama
said the 2012 budget "will reduce our deficits by $1 trillion over the
next decade." That's only through a number of dubious accounting
gimmicks, which we have previously documented. The president's proposals would actually increase the deficit in 2012, the year that counts.


Obama
also claims "the cuts I've proposed would bring annual domestic
spending to its lowest share of the economy under any president in more
than 50 years." Again, that would be at the end of the budget period --
after Obama finishes what he hopes would be a second term. He neglected
to mention that in 2010 he brought annual domestic spending to its
highest share of the economy -- 4.5 percent -- in three decades. Even
you buy the president's claim that he wants to cut discretionary
spending, mandatory spending and net interest in 2016 would amount to
the highest share of the economy in history.

The Pinocchio Test

The
Democrats' posturing that they have met Republicans "halfway" on budget
cuts does them no credit.
Either they should take a stand and say they
won't accept any further cuts, or they should begin a real negotiation
that leads to a higher number. Obama signaled he was willing to deal
when he said he was "prepared to do more." But the persistent claims of
going "halfway" when in fact Democrats have done little to engage
Republicans on the issue will only hurt their credibility in the long
run.



Three Pinocchios



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  • Hawkeye Obama F... 2012/05/30 13:46:59
    Hawkeye
    +1
    Remember Janet Rambo???? Errrr. I mean,, Reno???

    Even under CLINTON the AG would have been HISTORY long ago..
  • Obama F... Hawkeye 2012/05/30 14:43:50 (edited)
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +1
    O yes sure do , she was a really winner
  • Ken Obama F... 2012/05/30 20:06:31
    Ken
    Even so she paled by comparison to the biased, partisan SOB now holding the office.
  • tdterry1999 2012/05/30 00:41:54
    tdterry1999
    +5
    Today’s NYT campaign notebook has Obama sluicing the controversial Nutting Marketwatch chart straight off the Internet into a campaign speech, in which he proclaims “Since I’ve been president, federal spending has risen at the lowest pace in nearly 60 years.” (The exact sequence seems to be Nutting’s keyboard to Web to Carney to Obama to the world.) Obama’s instantaneous embrace of Nutting’s chart–a calculation so absurd even Ezra Klein tried to change the subject, since (among other things) it attributes most of Obama’s $800+ billion stimulus to Bush–raises an interesting pair of possibilities:

    a) Does Obama really not have an intuitive feeling for how much he’s been spending? That’s a little like not remembering how much sex you’re having. He’s the one doing the spending, after all. Even if he wasn’t, you’d think an ordinary BS detector would kick in. It’s one thing to expect MSNBC viewers to be credulous. It’s another thing …

    or

    b) Obama doesn’t care if it’s BS as long as it might work.**
  • Obama F... tdterry... 2012/05/30 12:33:21
  • tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA 2012/05/30 00:26:38
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    +3
    I'm going to send this to PP.
  • Gracie - Proud Conservative 2012/05/29 23:51:14
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +3
    Only three?
  • belle 2012/05/29 23:43:20
    belle
    +4
    of course the democrats are as usual stalling and Obama is not moving forward as he wants the voters to tthink. So Obama deserves all those pinocchios and more since he has been in office.
  • Obama F... belle 2012/05/30 12:35:31
  • WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA 2012/05/29 23:43:18
    WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA
    +6
    Yep, Obama's pants are a cinder.

    yep obamas pants cinder
  • Obama F... WhereIs... 2012/05/30 12:41:25
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +1
    Surprisingly, in relatively few pages in the 4th year of Obama's reign, Klein book clearly demonstrates the failure of Obama as President, his inability to learn from his failures;
  • Ken Obama F... 2012/05/30 20:10:16
    Ken
    That might be telling us something - i.e. that the failures are a deliberate attempt to collapse the U.S. economy so he can step in and give us something "new and different." The trouble is, as we all know, "progressive" policies are anything but progressive, they are the same warmed-over slop they have been feeding people since Karl Marx came on the scene in the 19th century, and they've been tried time and time again and have always failed.
  • zbacku 2012/05/29 23:42:02 (edited)
  • Obama F... zbacku 2012/05/30 12:42:16
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +1
    Communist Loser !
  • texasred 2012/05/29 23:24:29
    texasred
    +6
    The "man," and I use that word loosely when it comes to Obama, has lied his entire life in order to get what he wants. He has no concept of what the truth might be.
  • Ken texasred 2012/05/29 23:29:19
    Ken
    +7
    From Obama's Dreams From My Father:

    "One of those tricks I had learned: People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves. They were more than satisfied; they were relieved -- such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn't seem angry all the time."

    He is still tricking far too many voters in this nation!
  • texasred Ken 2012/05/29 23:31:38
    texasred
    +6
    People that are being "tricked" deserve it. What's frustrating is that they end up screwing this nation up for the rest of us.
  • Obama F... texasred 2012/05/30 12:49:36
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +3
    let's forget about Obama's college transcripts, there is plenty to nail his hide to the wall for just based on his JOB PERFORMANCE alone.
  • texasred Obama F... 2012/05/31 00:43:09
    texasred
    +2
    If we can't.. this nation is truly lost!!
  • Obama F... texasred 2012/05/31 01:18:59
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +2
    Sad to say , your right and liberal will be rejoicing when it happen
  • texasred Obama F... 2012/05/31 01:27:44
    texasred
    +2
    We're not going to let it happen. Keep that in your head!!
  • Obama F... texasred 2012/05/31 01:28:53
  • texasred Obama F... 2012/05/31 01:29:20
  • Obama F... texasred 2012/05/31 01:32:09
  • texasred Obama F... 2012/05/31 01:33:28
    texasred
    +2
    Love it!!
  • Obama F... texasred 2012/05/31 01:35:00
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +2
    Thanks
  • texasred Obama F... 2012/05/31 01:35:45
    texasred
    +2
    YW... how come we're not friends?
  • Obama F... texasred 2012/05/31 01:39:04
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +2
    we are know, Lol
  • texasred Obama F... 2012/05/31 07:38:38
  • Obama F... Ken 2012/05/30 12:48:19 (edited)
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +3
    The Socialist President keeps rolling right along. Obama state run media runs cover. The Attorney General goes after any state which has the nerve to oppose the wishes of the adminstration.

    It will continue if he wins in November. Attacks on conservatives will become more pointed. Rush and conservative talk radio will be first. FOX News next.
  • Ken Obama F... 2012/05/30 20:20:42
    Ken
    +1
    Holder is now making the rounds of Black churches in the nation, telling them that there is an assault on their right to vote. Amazingly, the efforts to stop voter fraud (a common practice among liberal Democrats) by requiring voter ID is turned into an attack on voters rights, despite the Supreme Court's approval of a voter ID law in Indiana. Even the statistics the "Justice" Department submitted in support of its suits with Texas and South Carolina proved that the difference in white and minority voters who already have photo ID is miniscule, something less than 2%, like 98% vs. 96.4% or something like that.
  • Obama F... Ken 2012/05/30 20:27:36
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +2
    Liberal put into place bureaucracies, cabinet friends, think tanks, commitees, and other things that do one thing... Maintain their power.and voter fraud is there second ( WMD ) they just want to win all cost
  • Obama F... texasred 2012/05/30 12:46:28 (edited)
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +2
    socialist media, let's talk about OBOZO's massive drug use in high school where he was stoned on coke most of the time, and let's talk about his high school infatuation with communists, communism (one of his communist mentors was commie extremist Frank Marshall Davis), radical, anti-American black nationalism, then let's talk about how such a delinquent got into Columbia and harvard. And then let's talk about how harvard awarded OBOZO financial aid specifically designated for "foreign* students".
  • texasred Obama F... 2012/05/31 00:45:35
    texasred
    We have a lot to talk about and I hope Romney lets the SuperPacs do their job.
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/05/29 23:22:26
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +8
    I'd give them five Pinnochios.
  • Obama F... Temlako... 2012/05/30 12:50:18
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +3
    Obama, is a waste of oxygen ... let's just get rid of this lying, arrogant idiot.

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