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Obama's budget lies so blatant even the liberal Washington Post awards him "Three Pinocchios!"

Ken 2012/05/29 23:17:48
Obama and the White House's 'halfway' fixation with the budget





By

Glenn Kessler










"My administration has already put forward specific cuts that meet
congressional Republicans halfway. And I'm prepared to do more."

-- President Obama, weekly radio address, March 5, 2011

The White House was not happy last week when we gave two Pinocchios
to Democrats for persistently saying they have gone "halfway" to GOP
proposals on cutting the 2011 fiscal year budget. We also suggested that
the "halfway" phrase would be worth more Pinocchios if President Obama
began to use it.

He did so in his weekly radio address, but not
before the White House gave the Fact Checker a bunch of data and charts
trying to make the administration's case for using the phrase.
So let's
review the issue again, and see how persuasive their argument is.

The Facts

It
really comes down to where you draw the line -- the budget baseline.
Democrats like to draw the line at the president's proposal for 2011,
even though it was never enacted. Under that measure, Republicans would
cut about $100 billion and Democrats some $50 billion. That's where the
"halfway" comes from.

Republicans -- and much
of the news media -- measure the cuts from the 2010 budget, the last one
signed into law. Under that scoring, the Republicans have cut $60
billion and the Democrats about $10 billion. The two sides are still $50
billion apart, but under this scenario, the Democrats have barely
budged.

White House officials have argued that it makes sense to
compare one proposal -- the president's 2011 budget request -- with
another proposal, the House 2011 bill. But that argument has gained
little traction in official Washington.

The White House has now
come up with a third way of drawing the line: the 2010 budget, adjusted
for inflation. This is not unreasonable, since inflation means a dollar
one year does not buy as much as the next year. (This "inflated
baseline" provided by the White House has an additional wrinkle -- an
extra $5.5 billion to ensure Pell grants for college remain at a full
$4,850 award -- but that is a bit complicated to explain, so we will
leave that aside for the moment.)

Under this scenario, the discretionary budget for fiscal 2011 would have been $1.117 trillion, all things being equal.

Here's how the different budget proposals compare when adjusted for this new line:


President's original 2011 proposal: +$12 billion

Latest Democratic proposal: -$39 billion

House Republicans: -$91 billion


These
numbers show that the president's proposal certainly would have been an
increase over inflation. But they also appear to show that the
Democrats have moved even more toward the GOP position, though not quite
"halfway."

To some extent, this is all semantics. No matter how you measure it, the two sides are always about $50 billion apart.

However,
we are not convinced by the White House presentation. The inflated
baseline helps demonstrate that even a "freeze" would mean a cut in some
spending, but it still makes more sense to compare the 2011 proposals
to the 2010 numbers.

Certainly, cuts along the lines of what the
House Republicans have proposed would be substantial. The Center on
Budget and Policy Priorities, a left-leaning group respected for its
number-crunching, recently tallied up a list that documents the potential impact on poorer Americans.

We
also did some rough calculations to compare the current GOP plan to the
$16 billion in budget cuts (known as recissions) made by congressional
Republicans in 1995. All things being equal, the current House bill
appears to be about three times as large as the bill that President Bill
Clinton signed into law (after first vetoing an earlier version). That
bill cut the budget by about 3 percent, or 0.2 percent of the gross
domestic product; this proposal would reduce the budget about 8 percent,
or 0.75 percent of GDP.

But has the White House offered
"specific cuts," as the president asserted? That's not quite accurate,
especially compared with the detailed cutbacks in the House bill. In
fact, that's where the White House's arguments breaks down. The specific
trims offered by Democrats amount to just $10.5 billion.

The president made a number of other questionable comments elsewhere in his radio address.

Obama
said the 2012 budget "will reduce our deficits by $1 trillion over the
next decade." That's only through a number of dubious accounting
gimmicks, which we have previously documented. The president's proposals would actually increase the deficit in 2012, the year that counts.


Obama
also claims "the cuts I've proposed would bring annual domestic
spending to its lowest share of the economy under any president in more
than 50 years." Again, that would be at the end of the budget period --
after Obama finishes what he hopes would be a second term. He neglected
to mention that in 2010 he brought annual domestic spending to its
highest share of the economy -- 4.5 percent -- in three decades. Even
you buy the president's claim that he wants to cut discretionary
spending, mandatory spending and net interest in 2016 would amount to
the highest share of the economy in history.

The Pinocchio Test

The
Democrats' posturing that they have met Republicans "halfway" on budget
cuts does them no credit.
Either they should take a stand and say they
won't accept any further cuts, or they should begin a real negotiation
that leads to a higher number. Obama signaled he was willing to deal
when he said he was "prepared to do more." But the persistent claims of
going "halfway" when in fact Democrats have done little to engage
Republicans on the issue will only hurt their credibility in the long
run.



Three Pinocchios



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  • Bureauc 0webama 2012/05/31 04:09:47
    Bureauc 0webama
    +1
    Another Snow Job! An attempt to paint 0bama as fiscally responsible. Public will never buy it.
    No matter what the increase, the 0bama Regime is spending and borrowing BILLION$ more than any pResident in history.
  • Obama Failed Soda Head Chie... 2012/05/30 12:14:59
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +2
    The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) fired off a warning Tuesday to our nation and its leaders in Washington,” writes Fox News’ Gretchen Hamel. “The CBO told us that the United States of America is headed toward a fiscal cliff and that if we do indeed fall off, it will have profound effects on our country and world economy. The CBO projects that if Congress does not act to prevent coming tax increases and spending cuts, a recession is certain. The CBO estimates gross domestic product would decline by as much as 1.3 percent if lawmakers don’t act.”

    So here’s Obama’s plan to protect us all from an economy under assault by tax increases: more tax increases.
  • Ken Obama F... 2012/05/30 19:53:24 (edited)
    Ken
    Certainly, when federal government spending is nearly 25% of the GDP any cuts in government spending will result in an initial decrease in GDP, but the money not spent by the government will be freed up to fund enterprises in the free market. The only reason the recession (technically two or more consecutive quarters with negative growth in the GDP) ever ended was the increase in government spending from around 20% of GDP under Bush to around 25% under Obama -- the only thing "growing" the GDP has been the 25% increase in federal spending relative to the rest of the economy.

    Ironic, isn't it, that the hated "Bush tax cuts for the rich" now pose a serious danger to the economy if they are not extended?
  • Obama F... Ken 2012/05/30 20:18:53
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +1
    it is bureaucrats who at times “invest" even when advised emphatically that a business is likely to fail (as those in the Obama administration were warned about Solyndra).

    Because they are using the taxpayers’ money, bureaucrats are not overly worried about whether the business they're funding offers products or services that other people actually want to buy.

    They’re far more preoccupied with other factors, such as whether the company fits into their ideological agenda, whether it’s located in a politically important place, and whether it offers the opportunity of financial gain for any of their donors, allies, or personal friends.
  • Ken Obama F... 2012/05/30 20:25:11 (edited)
    Ken
    You have just made a strong argument for term limits. Idaho's freshman representative, Raul Labrador, recently stated that he was originally against term limits, but after being in Washington for nearly eighteen months and seeing the arrogance of the entrenched politicians who have been up there for decades, he strongly advocates a limit of twelve years, combined service, in the House and Senate.
  • Obama F... Ken 2012/05/30 20:35:29
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +1
    And how many time has term limits.been talk about and shot down by both side ,i am talking about the rino and liberal we need trem term limits, there no reason to stay in office no more then Two term and out, Lol!
  • Ken Obama F... 2012/05/30 21:01:46
    Ken
    There's no question that the "ruling class" in Washington wants no part of term limits, they will have to come from the states with a constitutional amendment.

    Speaking of proposed amendments, are you with Georgetown Law Professor Randy Barnett's "Bill of Federalism." If not, here is a link. Be sure to follow the link at the bottom of the Forbe's article. There are three pages in all, one is a broad explanation, the second is a list of the proposed amendments, and the third is an explanation of the effect of each of the proposed amendments.

    http://www.forbes.com/2009/05...
  • Obama F... Ken 2012/05/30 21:23:45
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +1
    i will look at it and thank , but end "ruling class" in Washington will shot it down, but it need badly
  • sglmom 2012/05/30 09:33:50
    sglmom
    +3
    So .. why were they so lenient ..
    I'd say this rates the whopper rating of 4 pinocchios indeed ..
  • Obama F... sglmom 2012/05/30 12:16:51
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +3
    the so-called “centrist” Obama is actually in revolt against the values of the society he was elected to lead.
  • Ken Obama F... 2012/05/30 19:56:25
    Ken
    +2
    "So-called" is right! Our Marxist-leaning president is anything but a centrist.
    liberal in sheep s clothing
  • Obama F... Ken 2012/05/30 20:21:18
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +2
    It’s Barack Obama’s class warfare and incompetent bureaucracy.. Obama incompetent Obama incompetent Obama incompetent
  • Ken sglmom 2012/05/30 19:54:35
    Ken
    +1
    I don't know what their scale is - i.e. is the max number three, four or five?
  • sglmom Ken 2012/05/30 21:36:59
    sglmom
    +1
    I went to find their scale .. the max on it is 4 pinocchio's .. WHOPPER level ..
    they're still pretty lenient in their ratings indeed ..
    http://www.washingtonpost.com...
  • Ken sglmom 2012/05/30 23:39:23 (edited)
    Ken
    +1
    Thanks - so three out of four is pretty bad. They have to be lenient - being liberal they would have to paste long noses on virtually every Democrat in D.C.
  • sglmom Ken 2012/05/30 23:40:21
    sglmom
    +1
    For them .. yes, that was Scathing commentary indeed ..
  • TheTruth1313 2012/05/30 07:38:27
    TheTruth1313
    +4
    Would it be possible to give him 10 Pinnochios? More?
  • Obama F... TheTrut... 2012/05/30 12:17:53
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +3
    Obama: The Postmodern Coup, The Making of a Manchurian Candidate
  • Ken Obama F... 2012/05/30 19:57:34
  • TheTrut... Obama F... 2012/05/31 07:51:44
    TheTruth1313
    +1
    True that!!
  • Ken TheTrut... 2012/05/30 19:57:20
    Ken
    +1
    I don't know what their scale is - when I saw the three Pinocchios I assumed the max was five, but I may be wrong.
  • TheTrut... Ken 2012/05/31 07:52:05
  • redhorse29 2012/05/30 07:24:35
    redhorse29
    +4
    It is obvious the media is racist. No one is allowed to disagree with Lord Obama.
  • Obama F... redhorse29 2012/05/30 12:18:57
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +2
    Obama's intent based on his mission to communize America to collapse the US economy. Any observant clear-headed, informed individual should be able by now to connect the dots
  • Ken Obama F... 2012/05/30 20:00:43
    Ken
    I am all but certain that one of the reasons that Obama refuses to release his college transcripts is that he took a class, or classes, from Cloward and Piven who were professors at Columbia when he attended. He did state in "Dreams From My Father" that he chose the most radical friends and professors in college, and none were more radical than Cloward and Pliven who advocated exactly what you mention, collapsing the U.S. economy.
  • LisaSmith 2012/05/30 06:19:28
    LisaSmith
    +3
    If his lips are moving you know he is lying.
  • Obama F... LisaSmith 2012/05/30 12:21:18
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +2
    Obama the totalitarians tell us he need to control us (take away property and liberty) "for our own good". The classic thought pattern of a classic dictator.
  • Ken Obama F... 2012/05/30 20:01:31
  • Kane Fernau 2012/05/30 02:25:02
    Kane Fernau
    +4
    The sad thing is there people that still defend his lies.
  • Ken Kane Fe... 2012/05/30 03:14:43
    Ken
    +2
    Yes, a couple of the "dupes" have even replied on this blog!
  • Obama F... Kane Fe... 2012/05/30 12:22:51
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +2
    Virtually every policy pushed by Obama has been to increase the US's economic burden to effect collapse. This includes it energy policy, expansion of entitlements, sending billions to countries associated with the Muslim Brotherhood. Billions sent to Venezuela to effect oil exploration, billions dumped (money-laundered) through green industries. Even continuing the Afghanistan war effort serve
  • Ken Obama F... 2012/05/30 20:04:57
    Ken
    Speaking of expansion of entitlements, with the number of people on food stamps at an historic high, why is the Dept. of Agriculture offering $750,000 "grants" to groups for signing up more participants. Also, have you noticed the recent proliferation of ads from HHS on the "new" health care bill and all of the benefits, urging people to take advantage of them? Obama is using public funding to support his reelection campaign!
  • Ken Kane Fe... 2012/05/30 20:02:09
    Ken
    +1
    You seldom hear the press bring them up, which is what makes this Washington Post piece so unusual.
  • David Lindner 2012/05/30 02:09:28
    David Lindner
    +2
    I read that the other day haha
  • teigan 2012/05/30 01:32:16
  • Obama F... teigan 2012/05/30 12:24:30
  • Hawkeye 2012/05/30 00:44:19
    Hawkeye
    +4
    Sleight of Hand has always been a useful tool of Politicians but THIS guy takes it to the extreme.. If Obama had been a Republican the MSM would have had him IMPEACHED before his first year was up..

    Better make that his third year... His FIRST two years of ONE PARTY RULE with Pelosi and Reid had him impervious to ANY consequences for his actions.. EVEN the opposition of the American People..
  • Obama F... Hawkeye 2012/05/30 12:31:28
  • Hawkeye Obama F... 2012/05/30 12:40:01
    Hawkeye
    +2
    I ESPECIALLY like the" He wants your guns" part.. I hear that the Mexican Drug Cartels are running low since "Fast and Furious" got exposed..
  • Obama F... Hawkeye 2012/05/30 13:08:16 (edited)
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +1
    If his had happen under Bush , we know at his A.G would have been force to quit

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