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Obamas bail out plan and the governments plan to control your health care records without your consent. What do you think?

Maj. C. D. Hardy 2009/01/29 02:32:02
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Feds want your medical records
Electronic database to include lawsuit, mental health, abortion, sexual details

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By Bob Unruh
© 2009 Associated Press

A little-discussed provision in President Obama's economic stimulus plan would demand that every American submit to a government program for electronic medical records without a choice to opt out, and it has privacy advocates more than a little alarmed.
Patients might be alarmed, too, privacy advocates said, if they realized information such as documentation on abortions, mental health problems, impotence, being labeled as a non-compliant patient, lawsuits against doctors and sexual problems could be shared electronically with, perhaps, millions of people.
Sue A. Blevins, president of the Institute for Health Freedom, said unless people have the right to decide "if and when" their health information is shared, there is no real privacy.
"President Obama has pledged to advance freedom," she said. "Therefore the freedom to choose not to participate in a national electronic health-records system must be upheld."

Blevins' organization, one of the few raising the alarm at this point, said the stimulus plan would impose an electronic health records system on every person in the U.S. without any provision for seeking patient consent or allowing them not to participate.
"Without those protections, Americans' electronic health records could be shared – without their consent – with over 600,000 covered entities through the forthcoming nationally linked electronic health-records network," Blevins said.
The organization said Americans who care about health privacy should contact members of Congress and the president to let them know about the need for opt-out and consent provisions.
According to the institute, the measure currently includes plans for:
• An electronic health record "for each person in the United States by 2014."
• A national coordinator to develop a "nationwide health information technology infrastructure that allows for the electronic use and exchange of information."
The institute said the medical privacy rule established under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 already allows personal health information to be passed along without patient consent for treatment, payment and "oversight." The recipients of such information could be any of the people in the 600,000 organizations in the industry.
"Nobody wants to stop the proper use of good technology," Blevins said, "and for some people privacy is not an issue."
But she said the bottom line is that patients "would end up losing control of his or her personal health information."
"There's a lot at stake with electronically transferring health data and paying claims within the $2.2 trillion healthcare industry," warned the organization, which works on issues of health freedom in the U.S.
Another group, Consumer Watchdog, even suggested today Google is trying to lobby for the "sale of electronic medical records."
The group said, "Reportedly Google is pushing for the provisions so it may sell patient medical information to its advertising clients on the new 'Google Health' database."
Consumer Watchdog said, "Americans will benefit from an integrated system capable of making our medical records available wherever we may need them, but only if the system is properly used.
"The medical technology portion of the economic stimulus bill does not sufficiently protect patient privacy, and recent amendments have made this situation worse. Medical privacy must be strengthened before the measure's final passage," the group said.
WND previously has reported on attempts in Minnesota by state lawmakers to authorize the collection and warehousing of newborns' DNA without parental consent.
Gov. Tim Pawlenty has been successful in stopping the action there so far.
The Citizens' Council on Health Care has worked to publicize the issue in Minnesota. The group raised opposition when the state Department of Health continued to warehouse DNA without parental consent in violation of the genetic privacy and DNA property rights of parents and children.
Twila Brase, president of CCHC, said at the time the problem is that "researchers already are looking for genes related to violence, crime and different behaviors."
In an extensive interview with WND at the time, she said, "In England they decided they should have doctors looking for problem children, and have those children reported, and their DNA taken in case they would become criminals."
In fact, published reports in Britain note that senior police forensics experts believe genetic samples should be studied, because it may be possible to identify potential criminals as young as age 5.
Brase said efforts to study traits and gene factors and classify people would be just the beginning. What could happen through subsequent programs to address such conditions, she wondered.
"Not all research is great," she said.
Classifying of people could lead to "discrimination and prejudice. … People can look at data about you and make assessments ultimately of who you are."
The Heartland Regional Genetics and Newborn Screening is one of the organizations that advocates more screening and research.
The group proclaims in its vision statement a desire to see newborns screened for 200 conditions. It also forecasts "every student … with an individual program for education based on confidential interpretation of their family medical history, their brain imaging, their genetic predictors of best learning methods. …"
Further, every individual should share information about "personal and family health histories" as well as "gene tests for recessive conditions and drug metabolism" with the "other parent of their future children."
Still further, it seeks "ecogenetic research that could improve health, lessen disability, and lower costs for sickness."
"They want to test every child for 200 conditions, take the child's history and a brain image, and genetics, and come up with a plan for that child," Brase said at the time. "They want to learn their weaknesses and defects.
"Nobody including and especially the government should be allowed to create such extensive profiles," she said.
The next step, said Brase, is obvious: The government, with information about potential health weaknesses, could say to couples, "We don't want your expensive children."
"I think people have forgotten about eugenics. The fact of the matter is that the eugenicists have not gone away. Newborn genetic testing is the entry into the 21st Century version of eugenics," she said.
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  • plowboy 2009/01/29 13:52:56
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    plowboy
    +7
    I only hope those ignorant misled voters that put Barack Hussein Obama in power are happy because I'm not.
    What is really scary is that he hasn't been in office a month yet.

    ignorant misled voters barack hussein obama power happy scary office

    ignorant misled voters barack hussein obama power happy scary office

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  • Ross1776 2009/02/14 02:21:56
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    Ross1776
    +1
    This from a man and party that refuses to provide Obama's certified birth certificate - yet want to further violate our Constitution and civil rights of the citizeny with such a "Big Brother" provision? Orwell, an avowed Marxist, didn't envision this and anyone who holds with such a centralized medical records base that can be accessed or even hack into on a "need to know" basis is nothing but a Marxist himself. Obama is no Constitutional lawyer, unless he is seeking to provide for the legal profession's economy for the next 20 years on the lawsuits that will fly.....and maybe those are the jobs he's actually trying to protect and create - his own brotherhood's.
  • Larry 2009/02/13 18:57:42
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    Larry
    We have negligent government that is run strictly for the benefit of few. This issue goes beyond privacy rights. This will forbid people from obtaining life saving care when that exclusion suits the government. Doctors can be punished if they treat a patient when they shouldn't have. This has all been done in great secrecy. Who the hell are these politicians to decide who lives and who dies? Senator Mikulski's office put their phone off-hook because they don't want to hear voters complain. Cardin's office argued instead of listening.
  • Kat 2009/01/31 20:21:14
    Yes I want this it is for the greater good
    Kat
    Medical records have been moving to the electronic age for many years. It prevents mistakes, cuts down paperwork and is confidential information as provided by the Privacy Act.
  • terr 2009/01/31 15:43:46 (edited)
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    terr
    What I would like to know is why is there so many self destructive people in America? Freedom is when a person starts each day with choices.
  • Reno Roy 2009/01/31 09:08:18
  • MCSniper is outta here....s... 2009/01/30 11:49:50
    Yes I want this it is for the greater good
    MCSniper is outta here....see ya
    My great uncle died last year because the VA hospital in Huntington WV did not send his medical records and prescriptions to the VA hospital in Pittsburgh and they prescribed conflicting medicines and killed him.

    As a health care provider myself, I think this is a great idea. I can't count how many times I've had a patient say 2 weeks into care,"Oh I forgot to tell you about this....."

    As it is now, If I want someone's medical records, I have to have the patient sign a release and fax that to the doctor or hospital. Then wait a week or two to get them by mail. I'm assuming they would need the same patient consent to share electronic records.

    As for electronic security. I was a web site designer in a past life. 128bit encryption will pretty much keep at bay the vast majority of hackers.
  • Desert Cloud 2009/01/30 08:28:59
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    Desert Cloud
    +1
    Last thing America needs is a power greedy govt invading our privacy. This is the first step into socialism.
  • The Myth 2009/01/30 06:12:05
    None of the above
    The Myth
    +1
    Long article......................... don't worry. I have a copy of all my medical records. You can obtain these records through the freedom of information if you are given a hard time. Very simple, but it does take some intestinal fortitude on your part. worry copy medical records records freedom information simple intestinal fortitude
  • holliday04 2009/01/30 05:22:03
    None of the above
    holliday04
    It was bound to happen
    bound
  • kydso 2009/01/30 04:40:49
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    kydso
    Sounds like communism to me. Might as well paint the America flag all RED with 1 little blue star on the "lower left" .
  • MayaD 2009/01/30 02:47:23
    None of the above
    MayaD
    +1
    oba-mama. Don't need him.
  • Beccy 2009/01/30 02:23:43
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    Beccy
    +1
    Sorry to tell you but this has been going on for about 8 years and it's not new to Obama. It is sappose to save time. The professional typing up his notes into a computer program. Companies are in business writting these programs. These programs are on the internet. It saves the cost of typists. People think it's easlier then it is. I have worked on my own time almost every night for the last 5 years. To tell you the truth it scares me. In GErmany the first people that were killed where the mentally ill and the developmentally disabled. I am sure it can happen here.
  • Molly 2009/01/30 01:01:11
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    Molly
    +1
    Not NO but HELL NO, does the number 666 ring a bell, its the mark of the beast people. I work at a hospital, they have put their medical records on hold due to MONEY. I hope this gets taken out. Will be a highlight plan when I write my Senator again tomorrow.
  • Stonewall 2009/01/29 21:49:51
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    Stonewall
    +1
    Just another sign of bigger government taking us over.
  • Richard 2009/01/29 21:24:03 (edited)
  • Molly Richard 2009/01/30 00:57:09
    Molly
    that was funny. LMAO
  • No nons... Richard 2009/01/30 03:38:27
    No nonsense NanC...don't BS me!
    +1
    I could have lived my whole life without that exposed arse.
  • Candyst... No nons... 2009/01/30 04:49:40
    Candystripe
    +2
    Dude needs to body wax.....eeewwww!
  • kydso Richard 2009/01/30 04:37:13
    kydso
    You got it!!! BOHICA!!!
  • Greatbear100~support our vets 2009/01/29 17:53:41
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    Greatbear100~support our vets
    +2
    Medical records should not be released without written consent of the patient or legal guardian.
  • Molly Greatbe... 2009/01/30 00:58:41
    Molly
    Yes their has been huge amounts of legislation HIPPA, you are not allowed to release any paper on their record unless the patient says so, and can only be released to them.
  • Beccy Greatbe... 2009/01/30 02:25:52
    Beccy
    But if they are on the internet and the government is spying on us, guess what folks they already have the records.
  • No nons... Greatbe... 2009/01/30 03:39:13
    No nonsense NanC...don't BS me!
    How do you know this won't be the case?
  • Cal ~ Pegleg4570 ~ 2009/01/29 16:58:45
    Undecided
    Cal ~ Pegleg4570 ~
    You would be able to go to any Dr. in the USA, and he would have access to your complete records.....
  • Lorenzo 2009/01/29 16:12:50
  • pablo Lorenzo 2009/01/31 15:53:59
    pablo
    +1
    Breathing the air they think is theirs. Owning property that they think is theirs. Taking up space that they think is theirs.

    Liberals will never be satisfied until everyone looks the same and acts the same. As Hitler put it, everyone should be blond and blue eyed in the country he is building for the future. Thus liberals are true socialists but work undercover to cause the downfall of all who oppose them.
  • Lorenzo pablo 2009/01/31 16:17:15
  • pablo Lorenzo 2009/01/31 20:34:33 (edited)
    pablo
    You know, If citizens came together for the purpose of revolution to kick the scum out of Washington, I would be one of the first volunteers.

    Liberals talk revolutionary but are the last to actually be revolutionary. Why? because revolutions are about freedom of the people over the power of the government. Liberals can not stand that. Liberals live and die with the power of the government over the people.
  • Geohead 2009/01/29 16:03:15
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    Geohead
    +2
    This is just the beginning of his plan for total domination of this country. After reviewing people's files the government will begin to dictate what jobs or education you are allowed to have, what social economic status you are allowed to achieve. This is more than socialism, Obama wants a full out dictatorship and communism.
  • SPAZ is Back 2009/01/29 15:46:41
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    SPAZ is Back
    +1
    Well thanks a lot, as Jim Carey would say, And that's the way the cookie crumbles. Back to you fuckers! Right's ? what right's. What's it going to take for US to say enough we just keep taking it and taking it. Dang!! Hope you like your new flag
    jim carey cookie crumbles fuckers rights rights dang hope flag
  • Tex 2009/01/29 15:20:10
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    Tex
  • Lanikai 2009/01/29 15:15:53
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    Lanikai
    +1
    It is a serious invasion of my right to provacy. It is funny how the government wants to keep anyone from seeing this stuff but they want total access. WOrse, this is the same type of info Hitler used to round up non Jews for extermination. Darn, it is already bad with this guy.
  • Diane Lanikai 2009/01/29 23:47:48
    Diane
    Isn't this asshole attempting to murder babies? A psychopath is never happy with just one victim. Next it will be anyone who has an illness or has mental issues,,,,,,
  • Molly Diane 2009/01/30 00:59:33
    Molly
    he is not attempting he is doing it as we speak.
  • Beccy Lanikai 2009/01/30 02:27:54
    Beccy
    He killed the mentally ill and developmentally disabled first. Obama did not come up with this plan. Records at our agency have been on the internet for about 6-8 years.
  • Floe 2009/01/29 15:03:05
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    Floe
    +1
    There is no purpose other then violating one's privacy!
  • mowerman-back to bust libs 2009/01/29 14:17:16
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    mowerman-back to bust libs
    +2
    Can we sat SOCIALISM ?
  • MJ 2009/01/29 13:56:39
    No I don'twant this it invades my privacy
    MJ
    +2
    Medical ID theft is one of the toughest forms of ID theft to deal with, and it happens quite often and can literally cost you your life. And given the carelessness government have displayed in the past - loosing government laptops with top secret information within, and such - and the fact that hackers so often try, and succeed in getting into government computer systems, this causes me deep and grave concern.
  • Maj. C.... MJ 2009/01/29 14:04:36
    Maj. C. D. Hardy
    +1
    MJ

    I totally agree with you I am actually one of the soldiers who's information was stolen on one of the missing laptops. It took almost a year to get everything straightened out and I am having credit issues now because as a result of them getting my information I had to be issued a new social security number.
  • MJ Maj. C.... 2009/01/29 14:53:42
    MJ
    ID theft is a nightmare. I pity you, yet be consoled that the credit issue is hell it is one of the easiest forms if ID theft to remedy - it's just so time consuming! Medical ID theft has resulted in peope getting major surgeries costing $150,000 and more, changing medical allergies and several people have died when given meds that they were allergic to because the person who stole their ID for medical purposes changed the list of medical allergies. Any way it happens - it's hell on those impacted!!! Good luck to you getting thing all remedied!

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