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Incognito 2012/06/26 00:32:43
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On Thursday, the US Supreme Court is going to state their decision on the Affordable Care Act. Currently the status quo in American medical care is broken for all except the wealthy. Do you support ACA?
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  • DavidK 2012/07/05 06:49:31
    No. I am happy with what I have.
    DavidK
    It need fixing, not destroyed!!!!! If you are for it, you are totally clueless as to the cost and consequences this disastrous bill will have.
  • Incognito DavidK 2012/07/13 18:19:25
    Incognito
    You are wrong. YOU are clueless about the uninsured people that are dying.
  • Call me Mark willya? 2012/06/29 22:07:46
    Undecided.
    Call me Mark willya?
    As long as the V.A. medical system doesn't change then I'm fine, but I do worry about many many of my friends that are living subsistence lives as it is and will be sorely hurt if their medical coverage is reduced at all. From what I've read, it didn't do anything to ease the cost of medical care, and in fact if medicare/medicaid is cut, it may even put care out of reach of those of us that need it the most.
  • Goldneye 2012/06/29 09:35:25 (edited)
    No. I am happy with what I have.
    Goldneye
    +1
    Read all 2000 pages and it is just TOO much control and invasion and taxes for what little is given. Did ANYONE read that thing? It is quite frightening. I can see why the President and other politicians are exempt from it. That should tell EVERYONE that something is wrong with it.

    We need something, but not that one.
  • dallas 2012/06/28 14:56:03 (edited)
  • ruthannhausman 2012/06/27 21:11:35
    Undecided.
    ruthannhausman
    Healthcare in America does need improving. Fraud and outright greed need to be weeded out and prosecuted and restitution obtained wherever possible. But some of the things that I've read about in Obamacare don't even apply to healthcare, for Pete's sake. And the hidden costs are now becoming un-hidden and they aren't very funny.

    Basically, government needs to butt out of healthcare except for monitoring for compliance and criminal actions, etc. But they've proven over and over and over again that they do not benefit any industry in which they assert themselves as a key player.
  • SW 2012/06/27 14:15:28
    Yes. The country and its people need it.
    SW
    Yeah I'd like my daughter in college to be cut off from my health care 'cause I hate Obama so much. That'll show 'em! F'n retards. "Yes please deny me coverage if I have a pre-existing condition. Please don't allow interstate competition and keep jacking up prices on me... I love it!" What's wrong with people?
  • Fashionable60s 2012/06/27 06:09:20
    No. I am happy with what I have.
    Fashionable60s
    I do not trust the government to run my health care when they can't even run the Post Office efficiently. Tax will definitely have to be raised to fund it. Just like Medicare, the costs will balloon out of control since people are living longer and the way it has been run is also rampant with corruption. What I fear the most is there will be rationing of health care since there will not be enough doctors and hospitals to cover 30 million or more people into the system. Doctors will need to have permissions from some non-doctors bureaucrats in DC to perform certain tests or procedures on the elderly. I could envision my poor husband being sent home with a bunch of prescriptions because of his age instead of say, getting an open heart surgery that he would need since he would be deemed too old and they would rather give it to a person who is just 35 years old. A pretty nightmarish future under Obamacare for baby boomers who are turning 65 by the millions.
  • SW Fashion... 2012/06/27 14:20:30
    SW
    First of all the post office runs just fine thanks. It's still the cheapest way to get a 12oz package somewhere in 2 days. In fact any of their priority boxes beat anything FEDEX or UPS has unless you have a bulk contract. Netflix delivered a billion movies USPS. When some private corporation raises your rates on something and sends you a bill guess who they use...

    Second, "Obamacare" isn't "government run health care" It's a series of reforms so they can't gouge you (in fact they have to pay you back if they do), they can't arbitrarily cut you off if you get sick, they can't deny you coverage if you have a condition already, and a lot more abuses that ware plaguing our system. Nowhere in it does the "Government run" anybody's health care. Same doctors, same health care. Just some new insurance rules to protect consumers.
  • Sadiero... SW 2012/09/05 17:10:07 (edited)
    Sadierose Dobson
    +3
    Please excuse the typos. Wrrong...the post office is hoing bankrupt...due to Congressional rules that require payments into retire pensions decades before hand. Secondly the government has involved its self in health care under the Obama plan. That alone should make everypne shutter with fear. Having worked for an insurance company i can guarantee you that there is now way to forecast the cost of Obama care. In the end we will have just as many people in the emergency room because the wait to see a doctor will increase dramatically. The company Iwork for is no longer offering healthcate to new part time employees. It savea them money paying the fine
  • SW Sadiero... 2012/09/05 17:40:03
    SW
    I'd still rather have the post office running my healthcare than ENRON, thanks. I think the internet has had some effect on the letter shipping business don't you? How many things have gone paperless? How many handwritten letters does anybody write and send anymore? Maybe during holidays with cards but that's much less too. My point is all the problems of a government run agency aren't just because they're "government run." and all the same problems are there in the private sector too.
  • Sadiero... SW 2012/09/05 19:05:06 (edited)
    Sadierose Dobson
    Tell me one time the government has done anything better than the private sector and for a lower cost. Im for health care overhaul. I was paying 700.00 per month with a 3,000 deductible because I take antidepressants. Great blood preassire, cholesterol is awesome, heart beats like a drum...but those pesky pills put me in the high risk pool. I currently work for so so wages just to have affordable health care. Save 600 per month just by showing up.
  • ConLibFraud 2012/06/27 01:34:18 (edited)
    No. I am happy with what I have.
    ConLibFraud
    Phuck! If you people only new and or would listen!!!!! We all have birth trust accounts since birth that are worth millions and billions depending how hold they are! We have always had enough money to give every American CITIZEN all the best health care!!!
  • Sadiero... ConLibF... 2012/09/05 17:14:07
    Sadierose Dobson
    +3
    Say What...Secret fund held hostage by the government.
  • ConLibF... Sadiero... 2012/09/05 20:45:08
    ConLibFraud
    Yes! Care to unload your programming and get informed? Be prepared to get pissed off!!!!

    http://www.macquirelatory.com...
  • Sadiero... ConLibF... 2012/09/06 01:41:50 (edited)
    Sadierose Dobson
    Wow...i can't think of anything to say in response to that "informative"website. You would be a good canidate as a follower of Jim Jones...were he still alive. That is one messed up piece of misinformation.
  • ConLibF... Sadiero... 2012/09/06 08:03:39
    ConLibFraud
    You and your type are exactly the reason how they get away with it.
  • true american 2012/06/27 01:27:32
    No. I am happy with what I have.
    true american
    Goodbye, Obamacare
  • SW true am... 2012/09/05 17:41:01
    SW
    Then you get to keep it. Wish granted. Have fun with Romneycare if he wins --it's the same frigging thing.
  • Sadiero... SW 2012/09/05 18:58:01
    Sadierose Dobson
    Romney isnt advocating the Mass. plan for the entire US.
  • SW Sadiero... 2012/09/11 17:42:09
    SW
    No just EVERY PART he's asked about!
  • Arel 2012/06/26 23:42:44
    No. I am happy with what I have.
    Arel
    +2
    Hell to the no to Obamacare.
  • Marianne™ 2012/06/26 22:39:03
  • Informed Voter 2012/06/26 21:57:04
    No. I am happy with what I have.
    Informed Voter
    +1
    Critical: What We Can Do About the Health Care Crisis
    by Senator Tom Daschle

    A review and commentary


    The quote on the top of the front cover made the contents seem promising—at least at first:

    “Sen. Daschle brings fresh thinking to this problem.”

    So said then Senator Barack Obama regarding the author’s proposed solution to the so-called “healthcare crisis.”

    When one thinks about it, this book published in 2007 is the very prescription for what would later be called ObamaCare. The format and structure of what Daschle put forth was essentially adopted by Senator Max Baucus and later formulated in the latter’s now infamous “Chairman’s Mark.”

    In reading what is obviously a prescreening for ObamaCare, you will now see why a President Obama wanted to tap Daschle as his Health and Human Services Secretary. But since tax problems plagued the beleaguered former senate minority leader, Obama had to be satisfied with the plan instead of the man.

    Daschle’s narrative takes us on a long journey from the very dawn of the Progressive Era and what it wished to accomplish: namely, to create programs not based on the Constitution as written or the citizen’s right of free choice, but based on government mandate.

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    Critical: What We Can Do About the Health Care Crisis
    by Senator Tom Daschle

    A review and commentary


    The quote on the top of the front cover made the contents seem promising—at least at first:

    “Sen. Daschle brings fresh thinking to this problem.”

    So said then Senator Barack Obama regarding the author’s proposed solution to the so-called “healthcare crisis.”

    When one thinks about it, this book published in 2007 is the very prescription for what would later be called ObamaCare. The format and structure of what Daschle put forth was essentially adopted by Senator Max Baucus and later formulated in the latter’s now infamous “Chairman’s Mark.”

    In reading what is obviously a prescreening for ObamaCare, you will now see why a President Obama wanted to tap Daschle as his Health and Human Services Secretary. But since tax problems plagued the beleaguered former senate minority leader, Obama had to be satisfied with the plan instead of the man.

    Daschle’s narrative takes us on a long journey from the very dawn of the Progressive Era and what it wished to accomplish: namely, to create programs not based on the Constitution as written or the citizen’s right of free choice, but based on government mandate.

    This requirement for compulsory membership in some form of government-run healthcare had eluded Progressives since the inception of the era. To champion their cause, they’ve laid blame on every opponent and obstacle like the so-called special interests for the failures of their faulty or unconstitutional legislation. Moreover, Daschle tries to make excuses for both the Truman and Clinton administrations for their failures rather than address the true reason why “universal” healthcare habitually failed: That legislating the mandatory purchase of a good or service and punishing non-compliance through the tax code would not stand constitutional scrutiny.

    But Daschle also contradicts the special interest blame game and demonstrates that as long as those special interests are on the side of government-run healthcare reform, it’s ok to have organized support!

    “In February of 2007, the Center for American Progress helped form a coalition dedicated to achieving comprehensive health reform by 2012. Its leading members are Wal-Mart and the Service Employees International Union (SEIU).”

    “In June 2007, the Business Roundtable, an association of CEOs whose companies employ more than 10 million people, partnered with AARP and SEIU to form Divided We Fail. It, too, embraces affordable coverage for all.”

    The crux of the problem for actually getting ‘mandatory’ health care has always been constitutionality! You cannot force a private individual to purchase a private product or service. This had been the obstacle that President Truman later lamented when referring to his championing of healthcare reform.

    “‘I have had some bitter disappointments as president, but the one that troubled me most, in a personal way, has been the failure to defeat the organized opposition to a national compulsory [emphasis added] health insurance plan.’ Truman wrote in his memoirs.”

    Daschle describes the ultimate goal of universal health care; that everyone would be covered. To do so, would require reframing the argument and redefining healthcare as a right somehow granted by the Constitution.

    In one of the rare instances a Democrat has echoed the voice of a founding father, Daschle tried—unsuccessfully—to attach a founders’ sympathy to the Liberal orthodoxy regarding government-run universal healthcare.

    “Ensuring that all Americans have access to affordable, efficient, high-quality health care is absolutely essential to our country’s well-being. As Thomas Jefferson put it, ‘Without health, there is no happiness.’”

    Sorry, Tom (Daschle), but Tom (Jefferson) was not referring to an excuse to nationalize healthcare but was making a straight-forward observation about health and happiness. If healthcare was deemed a right in the eyes of our framers, why didn’t the right to ‘affordable healthcare’ make it in the Bill of Rights?

    The author states, “Some people warn that covering everybody will lead to waiting lists and health-care ‘rationing.’ But the United States has its own type of rationing—rationing based on income, insurance status, and illness.”

    In last year’s town hall, I challenged Congressman Castle’s panel of experts on this very subject. The charge: that the insurance companies ‘ration’ what they choose to cover based on “income, insurance status, and illness.” So, I asked the panel, “What’s the difference between an insurance company middle-man and the government bureaucratic middle-man? The only thing that this bill changes is who the gate-keeper is going to be, right?” They sat there, agape… with no answer!

    Another familiar approach used by Senator Daschle was to accentuate the exception and not the rule. Despite the fact over 80 percent of covered Americans are happy with their healthcare and coverage, he paraded the horror stories of no less than 10 real Americans with very individual issues regarding their problems with the healthcare industry from coverage to the delivery. We saw this very same shameful tactic exploited during the so-called “healthcare summit.” Nancy Pelosi’s speech at the summit dictated the tenor of these letters as requiring no more debate! In her words, “we don’t have time to start over.”

    Both Daschle and the summit concluded that, “Individual Americans also will have new obligations in a reformed health-care system. The only way we can achieve universal coverage is to require everybody to either purchase private insurance or enroll in a public program.”

    The fatal flaw admitted by Daschle was the theory of universal healthcare would bear little similarity to the reality that some people will most certainly “fall through the cracks.” If not all are covered, then how can they say they reformed healthcare?

    “Even if we achieve ‘universal’ [emphasis added] coverage, there will be some percentage of people who still fall through the cracks.”

    And what about those unfortunates whose stories were highlighted by Daschle and the summit? Let’s just say for the sake of argument that there were 1,000 such stories and letters from which politicians highlighted in the course of the healthcare debate… And exactly how many of those people highlighted had their healthcare issue miraculously transformed as a result of ObamaCare? Wouldn’t the number of stories equate to the number of those who actually “fall through the cracks?”

    If the press would just follow up on ANY of the individuals whose story Daschle highlighted; Donna and Larry Smith, Vicki H. Readling, Gordon and Sherry Louise Pinkly, Paul Shipman, Quinton and Jeanette White, Dee Dee Dodd, Roxianna McCutcheon, or Trent MacNamara, they might find that each one of them are still waiting for relief ObamaCare promised! But once the details of ObamaCare are implemented, and they find the new law cost-prohibitive, they may wish to be excluded from ObamaCare entirely!

    Ah, but didn’t 222 small businesses, UNIONS (like the AFL-CIO and SEIU who helped ram ObamaCare Down our throats), and others just receive a get-out-of-ObamaCare free card?

    And how about AARP, who just told their members they will have to pay an 8 to 13 percent increase on their premiums as a result of ObamaCare! Wait a minute: Wasn’t the idea of healthcare reform to LOWER costs? Hmmm… So much for the universal nature of that government mandate for compulsory membership in ObamaCare!

    Here’s your chance to do some genuine investigative reporting, you so-called members of the Fourth Estate: Track down these people and ask them if ObamaCare has corrected their perceived wrongs regarding their healthcare situation. Especially since the title of the new law is, “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.” If you bothered to do your job, you’d realize this law doesn’t protect the patient nor will it provide affordable care. Please remind me again why this was passed?

    There is a simple reason why they haven’t been helped by this law: The law never addressed the delivery system itself outside the creation of “panels” of government-sponsored bureaucracy. It failed to consistently address “how” affordability shall be maintained when 100 percent of Americans (and illegals, since the number of uninsured Daschle put forth was 47 million—now corrected to 30 million) must have coverage. However, he does say that doctors and patients alike are, themselves, responsible for the high cost of healthcare, thus:

    “Doctors, bound by the Hippocratic Oath, had no reason to know or care about the cost of what they ordered. Hospitals were happy to earn as much money as possible by performing every test and procedure imaginable. Patients with insurance didn’t pay much attention either, since they weren’t paying the bills, and their main concern was getting well. State taxes on insurance premiums and state rules mandating that all policies include certain services also affected the cost of coverage.”

    And Daschle’s so-called fix? The creation of another Governmental department: the Federal Health Board.

    As Daschle explains, “The Federal Health Board would be a quasi-governmental organization. It would have a board of governors consisting of clinicians, health benefit managers, economists, researchers, and other respected experts. Governors would be chosen based on their stature, knowledge, and experience, ensuring that the decisions they make have credibility across the health-care spectrum. The president would appoint them to Senate-confirmed, ten-year terms.”

    “The Federal Health Board also would have regional boards that would have a say in national decisions, but would focus primarily on promoting best practices and quality of care locally. While the national board would be comprised of experts, the regional boards would include community and business representatives with no conflicts of interest. They would concentrate on fulfilling national priorities, and identifying the best local practices and propagating them.”

    “The [Federal Health] Board and its staff would have unparalleled resources, and would produce work that would become part of the public domain.”

    “Congress will have the final say on the Board’s powers, but I envision it performing several crucial functions….it would set the rules for the expanded FEHBP (Federal Employees Health Benefits Plan), placing conditions on the private insurers wanting to participate.”

    “…the Federal Health Board would promote ‘high-value’ medical care by recommending coverage of those drugs and procedures backed by solid evidence. It would exert influence by ranking services and therapies by their health can cost impacts.”

    “We won’t be able to make a significant dent in health-care spending without getting into the nitty-gritty of which treatments are the most clinically valuable and cost effective. That means taking a harder look at the real costs and benefits of new drugs and procedures.”

    “The Federal Health Board wouldn’t be a regulatory agency, but its recommendations would have teeth because all federal health programs would have to abide by them…Congress could opt to go further with the Board’s recommendations. It could for example, link the tax exclusion for health insurance to insurance that complies with the Board’s recommendations.”

    Whoa, stop the presses! The Board’s recommendations? (Can you say Death Panels?) “Link to tax exclusion?” (Can you say Gestapo spank via the IRS?)

    If anyone dares do a word-search on ObamaCare, you’ll notice how many times “affordable care” is mentioned outside the restatement of the title of the act: JUST 2 times!

    And if you word search the Internal Revenue Code, you’ll notice it’s mentioned a whopping 197 times! The word tax, 582 times! Penalty is mentioned 132 times! Now please tell me where the emphasis is placed in this law, the doctor/patient relationship or the tax code?

    To counter those against government intrusion into our life’s decisions, Daschle concludes, “Like the Federal Reserve, (the Federal Health Board) could evolve into an institution worthy of trust, a body of experts judged to be immune from political machination…I’m sure the same question was posed when President Roosevelt and Congress created the Federal Reserve nearly a century ago. Today, it’s absurd to imagine Congress debating interest rates. Creating a new entity to fulfill that function made sense in 1913; doing the same thing for health care makes sense now.”

    This reader’s final diagnosis is this: Full-blown ObamaCare has proven to be nothing shy of Daschle’s proposal on steroids. And the last time I checked, the use of steroids outside their prescribed dosing instructions is ILLEGAL!


    Senator Tom Daschle with Scott S. Greenberger & Jeanne M. Lambrew, Critical, (New York, NY: Thomas Dunne Books, St. Martin’s Press, 2007), p. 188-9.
    Senator Tom Daschle with Scott S. Greenberger & Jeanne M. Lambrew, Critical, (New York, NY: Thomas Dunne Books, St. Martin’s Press, 2007), p. 189.
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  • Marianne™ Informe... 2012/06/26 22:42:50 (edited)
  • Wolfman 2012/06/26 20:46:46
    No. I am happy with what I have.
    Wolfman
    +3
    73% of the folks want Obamacare repealed. The remaining 27% are stupid enough to believe that Obamacare will be free.
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/06/26 20:46:11
    No. I am happy with what I have.
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +3
    No I do not support Obamacare at all
  • gregaj7 2012/06/26 19:55:09
    No. I am happy with what I have.
    gregaj7
  • Christine/Rest in peace Pet... 2012/06/26 19:36:30
    No. I am happy with what I have.
    Christine/Rest in peace Peter Br
    +4
    I am already seeing the impact of Obamacare on my older relatives. I am also seeing the impact on my city. Doctors who have left their practices since the bill was passed have left our city in need. We are down over 15 percent, and the doctors that are left have moved into co-ops where we are treated like cattle in order to survive under the new regulations.

    Also, our doctor owned hospital which gave the best care in the region and atdecent prices, has been forced to sell because of the restrictions and regulations of Obamacare. Now we are left with a hospital that people joke about only going in feet first.
  • Rickelis 2012/06/26 19:26:42
    Yes. The country and its people need it.
    Rickelis
    +1
    Yes. Time for this government of We the People to do what the Constitution says to do right there in the Preamble: "promote the general Welfare." Simple as that.
  • DavidK Rickelis 2012/07/05 06:52:54
    DavidK
    if we were all poor like you who would pay for all this?
  • Rickelis DavidK 2012/07/25 19:23:02
    Rickelis
    "if we were all poor " the entire capitalist system would not exist, nor would for-profit health care--or anything "for profit" -- so there would be no need to "pay for all this." (Although you might have to come up with a chicken or turnip to barter with;-) Try thinking things through to their logical conclusion--and then beyond to their absurdity.
  • DavidK Rickelis 2012/07/26 02:37:35
    DavidK
    +1
    Logical? I'm voting Obama out! Obamacare won't work and it WILL NOT FLY. Mark my words.
  • Sadiero... Rickelis 2012/09/05 17:16:09
    Sadierose Dobson
    +3
    Promote not pay for from cradle to grave
  • sherdon2 2012/06/26 19:22:57
    No. I am happy with what I have.
    sherdon2
    +2
    Give all us what Congress has ...oh, and how about some those Bennies they have. We have Tri care but it needs to be redone as well...no dental.
  • Wilde~MoonChild ™ 2012/06/26 18:25:13
    Yes. The country and its people need it.
    Wilde~MoonChild ™
    +1
    and you can keep what you have
  • Sadiero... Wilde~M... 2012/09/05 17:17:32
    Sadierose Dobson
    +3
    Bull...
  • Wilde~M... Sadiero... 2012/09/05 18:07:30
    Wilde~MoonChild ™
    You're going to have to do better than that!
  • Dickens 2012/06/26 18:20:15 (edited)
    Undecided.
    Dickens
    ...people need it, and I would MUCH rather see monies spent on the health and well-being of Americans than see it being wasted on war profiteers for unnecessary wars of choice, attacking nations that have done nothing to us. How much health care would the $11 TRILLION we wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan have bought (including the $12 BILLION we sent there, IN CASH, for the express purpose of being stolen by generals and colonels, whose belongings won't be searched when they come home...) Obama-care seems like a bargain compared to what the war profiteers have bled from taxpayers since 2001...
  • Ole SGT Joe 2012/06/26 18:14:03
    Undecided.
    Ole SGT Joe
    I am happy with what I have but what about all the people who have nothing? Does the Country need it? We obviously need something but to "give it away" for those who go through life with their hand continuously extended wanting more and more free services, absolutely time to draw the line. Still undecided.

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