Obamacare now invalid because tax bills must originate in House?

by ~ The Rebel ~ Posted 2012/07/02 20:39:36

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According to the United States Constitution, all tax bills must originate in the House of Representatives. This law originated in the Senate, because at the time the Democrats were selling it as a purchase - not a tax.

Consequently, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Law is unconstitutional on a different criteria than the ones considered by the Supreme Court in this latest landmark decision. By calling the individual mandate unconstitutional but allowing the law as a federal program to be funded by new taxes, Justice Roberts essentially nullified the law.

JustinEMT990662 2012/07/08 01:11:18

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@Schlaue - Correct, but the HR bill did not make it out of the joint committee between the House and the Senate due to the Public Option. The House version had the Public Option, the Senate version was re-written without the Public Option; it went to a joint committee and died there. The Senate version was completely different. Later, the House passed the Senate version bypassing the committee by passing their version in full. The Senate passed the bill under reconciliation. As such, while it bared the HR #, it is in fact a new bill which originated in the Senate. In order to follow Constitutional law and established procedure, the bill would have to pass the joint committee before going to the POTUS. It did not do this. The House instead took up the Senate version and passed that as I mentioned above which bypassed the committee. That would invalidate the law once it was ruled a new tax. Just my $0.02
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JustinEMT990662 2012/07/08 01:11:18

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@Schlaue - Correct, but the HR bill did not make it out of the joint committee between the House and the Senate due to the Public Option. The House version had the Public Option, the Senate version was re-written without the Public Option; it went to a joint committee and died there. The Senate version was completely different. Later, the House passed the Senate version bypassing the committee by passing their version in full. The Senate passed the bill under reconciliation. As such, while it bared the HR #, it is in fact a new bill which originated in the Senate. In order to follow Constitutional law and established procedure, the bill would have to pass the joint committee before going to the POTUS. It did not do this. The House instead took up the Senate version and passed that as I mentioned above which bypassed the committee. That would invalidate the law once it was ruled a new tax. Just my $0.02

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Schläue~© 2012/07/02 20:42:26 (edited)

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It did.... HR 3590 was the final version that was introduced to the House of Reps by Charles Rangel on 9/17/ 2009.

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