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Obamacare is a tax, so what! If Romney is elected does it make more sense to reduce the tax on day one or fight for 8 years to repeal parts of it?

mblack 2012/07/04 02:29:46
Yes, take the more logical route. Get it done quick and effective.
No, fight it out for 8 years. Long drawn out more divides.
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My view is why fight when you can obtain instant results. Simply reduce the tax(s) to 0.02%, then repeal the ii over the 8 years. Fighting for up to 8 years will only yield minimal results and create division between the citizens.
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  • Drue-AFCL 2012/07/04 02:46:07
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    Drue-AFCL
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    What do you mean so what? THE PRESIDENT LIES AND WITH THAT, FREEDOM DIES!
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  • fudge35 2012/07/05 23:24:54
  • Paige 2012/07/05 04:57:23
    None of the above
    Paige
    Improve on the bill but don't gut it. Its a good bill.
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  • Charles E 2012/07/05 00:13:38
    Yes, take the more logical route. Get it done quick and effective.
    Charles E
    Do it fast and totally. If it is spread out the Marxist propaganda machine will attack all supporters and some of them will back down.
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  • John Hall 2012/07/05 00:08:35
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    John Hall
    +1
    Please , please , please tax us more we need it to support the deadbeats in this country .
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  • fudge35 John Hall 2012/07/05 23:29:53
    fudge35
    You already are supporting the dead beats who wont buy health insurance, but expects all of us to pay his hospitable bills when he breaks his neck in a motorcycle accident. Let's get it up front from him, then he can break his neck.
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  • John Hall fudge35 2012/07/06 01:19:24
    John Hall
    I can see your point but this won't help Obama and the democrats didn't address the real problem and that is the rising cost of health care . I fear this health care will hurt more than it will help but only time will tell .
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  • fudge35 John Hall 2012/07/06 19:38:19
    fudge35
    Well they did, making the insurance companies give free preventive health care. If people will get physicals every year, and catch health problems before they become expensive to treat. There is no reason that this country should be 37th in the world for health.
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  • EdVenture 2012/07/04 23:58:40
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    EdVenture
    Bottom line.......Obama Cares!
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  • mblack EdVenture 2012/07/05 04:38:48
    mblack
    +1
    He cares a little too much, this is far too overreaching. Leave stuff in for kids, elderly, and preexisting conditions all other items in this law is bs.

    If he cares so much he would invest more in improving the department of education, not healthcare. Having a nation of idiots holds us back more than a few million uninsured.
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  • EdVenture mblack 2012/07/05 16:25:22
    EdVenture
    I think it can be shown that he does support education as evidenced by his legislation that's being blocked by congress as well as with healthcare and its related industries. And healthcare has been out of control for decades. People forget but this is the change he has been fighting for with a tenacity since he was elected. Problem has been the insiders don't want change and those insiders include the special interests. Left un-checked, we will end up with a plutocracy form of government that calls itself a democracy, that is the over-reach! Respectfully, Ed
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  • stevmackey 2012/07/04 23:21:34
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    stevmackey
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    If it really a tax, it can be lowered If you read the bill that was posted on the governmental printing office sit, it is scary. Read it then comment! They have the right to terminate care because they think you are too old.
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  • flaca BN-0 2012/07/04 23:16:24
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    flaca BN-0
    +1
    The tax is only for free-riders. Romney himself said that free-riders should pay the tax.
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  • sjalan 2012/07/04 21:09:01
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    sjalan
    +1
    The Affordable Heath Care Act is NOT A TAX. It is a first step to universal health care for ALL citizens, where in we become responsible for our own health care as a manner of civil responsibility.
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  • mblack sjalan 2012/07/05 04:45:55
    mblack
    This act brings a new set of taxes to the middle classes. We are also responsible for our decisions. What's next a law that says everyone must get an advanced degree or face a penalty from the IRS?
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  • sjalan mblack 2012/07/05 05:10:10
    sjalan
    No it does not bring a new set of taxes to the middle class. The lie that is being spread by the Republicans about the Affordable Health Care Act is just that, lies.
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  • Starman 2012/07/04 20:39:26
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    Starman
    +1
    There is no way the GOP is going to win the Presidency, much less gain a majority in the Senate, and there is a good chance they will loose the house.

    Even *if* the worst should happen what would the GOP replace Obamacare with? Romneycare? More than likely they would just talk and talk and talk and argue and nothing would get done to help fix the problems with our healthcare system. In this case nothing is not better than something. Why would you want to not bring down healthcare costs and bring healthcare to every American?
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  • tdterry1999 2012/07/04 19:53:44
    Yes, take the more logical route. Get it done quick and effective.
    tdterry1999
    The faster we put Obama in the rear view mirror,the better off we will be.
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  • jgh57 2012/07/04 17:26:35
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    jgh57
    What kills me is that "Obama" Care = Romney Care. Romney is such a hypocrite.
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  • endthefed.soundmoney 2012/07/04 17:20:40
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    endthefed.soundmoney
    +1
    there`s only one Dr who can help fix the health care issue that is Dr. Ron Paul!!
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  • kcoat 2012/07/04 16:06:59
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    kcoat
    +1
    Each state can refuse to implement, the congress need only to defund each part.
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  • DuncanONeil 2012/07/04 15:54:18
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    DuncanONeil
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    Its more than a tax. The bloody thing is in and of itself unconstitutional!
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  • Starman DuncanO... 2012/07/04 20:40:46
    Starman
    +1
    No, it is not. The Supreme Court has ruled, so it is, by definition, constitutional.
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  • DuncanO... Starman 2012/07/04 20:57:47
    DuncanONeil
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    The SCOTUS is not infallible. It has been ruled constitutional but it clearly is not. Actually the Robert's position is itself imposing a tax on inaction and levying a direct tax. Both of these are constitutional problems.
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  • Starman DuncanO... 2012/07/04 22:17:29
    Starman
    I think you need to read the constitution. The ruling of the Supreme Court defines what is constitutional. You may disagree, but according to the law, you are wrong.
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  • pamela Starman 2012/07/04 22:37:38
    pamela
    Actually Duncan was correct, saying it's more than a tax, it is practically a penalty instead. It was changed by name as a tax so this unconstitutional piece of ****, WOULD BE PASSED, and making us all think it could be constitutional.
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  • Starman pamela 2012/07/04 22:40:15
    Starman
    I must have missed the place in the constitution where it said your nonsense overrules the Supreme Court.
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  • pamela Starman 2012/07/07 19:15:43
    pamela
    Not nonsense, you just have been listening to the wrong news channels. You must have missed it totally or it went way over your head. This so called tax, is more so a penalty because there are some who still either don't feel or think they need health care, and the rest of us don't want what we have messed up. My hubby had a wonderful health care plan, but this Obama care, some parts of it has started, and one of two parts is the amount of out of pocket you pay and the other the price of prescriptions. I have seen this within my hubby's insurance provider and I still have to pick up a prescrip today, and instead of paying what used to a minimal cost, is now a prescip at full price. . So your rant above towards me, means, jack, moot, nothing to me.
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  • Marie 2012/07/04 15:21:30
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    Marie
    +2
    There are a couple of good parts! But on the whole it is bad! Obamacare
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  • fortycal_sig 2012/07/04 14:52:05
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    fortycal_sig
    +2
    Think ObieCare needs to be fought at every level of government and taking every opportunity. There's not point in arguing what the best strategy is--just do 'em all!

    Nullification of ObieCare by states will be a big part of this, and hopefully will have some knock-on effects where states start to nullify other Federal b/s, too. http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/
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  • Old Poet 2012/07/04 14:20:16
    Yes, take the more logical route. Get it done quick and effective.
    Old Poet
    +1
    If the tax portion is repealed, does the rest still stand? The law was ruled unconstitutional based on the Commerce Clause so without the tax that made it legal, is the rest unconstitutional?
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  • One of Y'shua's,דָּנִיֵּאל 2012/07/04 13:56:00 (edited)
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    One of Y'shua's,דָּנִיֵּאל
    +2
    I still am waiting for the BILL TO BE "SPLAINED" in everyday JARGON..instead of this WRITTEN DOUBLE SPEAK GARBAGE..hell just write the bill as follows..AMERICAN PEOPLE WE ARE HERE TO STEAL YOUR FUTURE and SOVEREIGNTY and HEALTH away from you..SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP...
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  • Wyzard 2012/07/04 13:48:54
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    Wyzard
    +1
    eliminate it
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  • pops 2012/07/04 13:15:38
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    pops
    +1
    Make sure the impostor never see's it materialize.
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  • Karen Jonsson 2012/07/04 09:58:28
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    Karen Jonsson
    +2
    Obama is going to fix it so it cannot be repealed. It would be a complete waste of time if Presidents can just come in and change other Presidents work. How would anything get done? This is not Reagan taking down the solar panels in the white house when he came into office. It does not work like that people. If it did then Andrew Johnson would have repealed the emancipation proclamation as he certainly did not want slavery abolished. Roe versus wade would have been repealed by the Presidents who do not believe in abortion and so on and so forth. So if you think that Romney or anyone else could come in and just make changes to everything Obama has done, think long and hard again. You know so many people want to accuse people of lying but they are so quick to believe everything. It is completely your fault if you are lied to. I see people saying that they believe the President's family pictures are staged and Romney's are not. LIKE THEY KNOW THE ROMNEY FAMILY!!!! How do you know them? You go to church with them, you visit their house? You gay bash with him in High school? Did you stand with him as he enjoyed firing people? The guy who knows how to create jobs? He is your best buddy huh? Romney can tell you the sky is purple and you would say. "that lying dic...
    Obama is going to fix it so it cannot be repealed. It would be a complete waste of time if Presidents can just come in and change other Presidents work. How would anything get done? This is not Reagan taking down the solar panels in the white house when he came into office. It does not work like that people. If it did then Andrew Johnson would have repealed the emancipation proclamation as he certainly did not want slavery abolished. Roe versus wade would have been repealed by the Presidents who do not believe in abortion and so on and so forth. So if you think that Romney or anyone else could come in and just make changes to everything Obama has done, think long and hard again. You know so many people want to accuse people of lying but they are so quick to believe everything. It is completely your fault if you are lied to. I see people saying that they believe the President's family pictures are staged and Romney's are not. LIKE THEY KNOW THE ROMNEY FAMILY!!!! How do you know them? You go to church with them, you visit their house? You gay bash with him in High school? Did you stand with him as he enjoyed firing people? The guy who knows how to create jobs? He is your best buddy huh? Romney can tell you the sky is purple and you would say. "that lying dictator Obama said it was blue!" instead of stick your damned heads out of the window and looking for yourselves. Look it up, you do not even have to go to the library do a search and check if anyone can just come in and repeal Obamacare. Next thing you know you will want Romney to make him give back the Nobel prize, arrest him bring Bin laden back to life so Romney can get him! Idiots. Flaming Idiots. You want to quote the bible about a man and a woman being married but ignore that it condemns what the Mormons were founded on. How convenient. My only conciliation is I will not see you up in heaven. HEATHENS!!!
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  • Karen J... Karen J... 2012/07/04 10:20:28
    Karen Jonsson
    Ok for the people who imagine that a magic fairy can just repeal Obamacare. Here is a link to the only things that can be done about it, but it can not be stopped, they can just do the very same thing they accuse him of doing, which is instruct the cabinet to cease enforcing the law. But the GOP would not do the same thing that they are condemning Obama about now would they? Hmmm? Of course not. They are soooo much of the honest and wholesome Americans! http://news.yahoo.com/legal-w...

    But just in case the nay sayers just can't handle the truth and don't want to or do not know how to follow a link. Let me add a paragraph from it. ( By the way see the magic words they use.. "the law")

    "How can a president repeal the law?

    Legally, a president cannot repeal a law despite the verbiage being used by Romney. A president can, however, instruct members of the Cabinet to cease enforcing parts of the law. President Barack Obama used this tactic regarding the Defense of Marriage Act in 2011, according to ABC News. Obama also did the same thing regarding immigration laws earlier in June. If Romney becomes president, he can simply instruct Cabinet secretaries to restrict enforcing the law.

    Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal is currently using this strategy for his state. The Ticket blog re...
    Ok for the people who imagine that a magic fairy can just repeal Obamacare. Here is a link to the only things that can be done about it, but it can not be stopped, they can just do the very same thing they accuse him of doing, which is instruct the cabinet to cease enforcing the law. But the GOP would not do the same thing that they are condemning Obama about now would they? Hmmm? Of course not. They are soooo much of the honest and wholesome Americans! http://news.yahoo.com/legal-w...

    But just in case the nay sayers just can't handle the truth and don't want to or do not know how to follow a link. Let me add a paragraph from it. ( By the way see the magic words they use.. "the law")

    "How can a president repeal the law?

    Legally, a president cannot repeal a law despite the verbiage being used by Romney. A president can, however, instruct members of the Cabinet to cease enforcing parts of the law. President Barack Obama used this tactic regarding the Defense of Marriage Act in 2011, according to ABC News. Obama also did the same thing regarding immigration laws earlier in June. If Romney becomes president, he can simply instruct Cabinet secretaries to restrict enforcing the law.

    Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal is currently using this strategy for his state. The Ticket blog reports Jindal simply is refusing to set up an insurance exchange in his state.
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  • 2sly 2012/07/04 09:54:49
    Yes, take the more logical route. Get it done quick and effective.
    2sly
    Follow this link and read this articla on just one part of Obamacare.
    http://polidics.com/news/anot...
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  • Prophet 2012/07/04 09:21:23
    Yes, take the more logical route. Get it done quick and effective.
    Prophet
    +1
    Repeal it immediately. No more discussion.
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  • bob h. Prophet 2012/07/04 16:02:49
    bob h.
    Yes; 37pl is good enough.
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  • Cleaver62 2012/07/04 09:17:46
    None of the above
    Cleaver62
    +3
    I just don't understand what the hurry is to repeal Obamacare. It is good for the country and Romney isn't going to win anyway so the question is moot. Once people learn the facts and the truth about Obama care, you are going to have a hard time getting people to give it up. It is amazing to me the Republicons believe that we all have the right to have guns but not health care. Maybe after a few of those gun loving idiots shoot themselves in the food and can go to the hospital to get patched up, they will understand how valuable good medical coverage is.
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  • 2sly Cleaver62 2012/07/04 09:53:42
    2sly
    Follow the link
    http://polidics.com/news/anot...
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