Obamacare fee of $5.25 per Month / $63 per person to begin in 2014. Did Obama/DNC mislead America about Obamacare?
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2012/12/11 13:15:24
Washington Timmes Ricardo Alonso-Zaldiva rAssociated Press 12/10/2012
Word started getting out in the spring, said Ms. Young, but hard cost estimates surfaced only recently with the new regulation. It set the per-capita rate at $5.25 per month, which works out to $63 a year.
Your medical plan is facing an unexpected expense, so you probably are, too. It’s a new, $63-per-head fee to cushion the cost of covering people with pre-existing conditions under President Obama’s health care overhaul.
The charge, buried in a recent regulation, works out to tens of millions of dollars for the largest companies, employers say. Most of that is likely to be passed on to workers.
Employee benefits lawyer Chantel Sheaks calls it a “sleeper issue” with significant financial consequences, particularly for large employers.
“Especially at a time when we are facing economic uncertainty, [companies will] be hit with a multimillion-dollar assessment without getting anything back for it,” said Mr. Sheaks, a principal at Buck Consultants, a Xerox subsidiary.
Based on figures provided in the regulation, employer and individual health plans covering an estimated 190 million Americans could owe the per-person fee.
The Obama administration says it is a temporary assessment levied for three years starting in 2014, designed to raise $25 billion. It starts at $63 and then declines.
Most of the money will go into a fund administered by the Health and Human Services Department. It will be used to cushion health insurance companies from the initial hard-to-predict costs of covering uninsured people with medical problems. Under the law, insurers will be forbidden from turning away the sick as of Jan. 1, 2014.
The program “is intended to help millions of Americans purchase affordable health insurance, reduce unreimbursed usage of hospital and other medical facilities by the uninsured and thereby lower medical expenses and premiums for all,” the Obama administration says in the regulation. An accompanying media fact sheet issued Nov. 30 referred to “contributions” without detailing the total cost and scope of the program.
Of the total pot, $5 billion will go directly to the U.S. Treasury, apparently to offset the cost of shoring up employer-sponsored coverage for early retirees.
The $25 billion fee is part of a bigger package of taxes and fees to finance Mr. Obama’s expansion of coverage to the uninsured. It all comes to about $700 billion over 10 years, and includes higher Medicare taxes effective this Jan. 1 on individuals making more than $200,000 per year or couples making more than $250,000. People above those threshold amounts also face an additional 3.8 percent tax on their investment income.
Word started getting out in the spring, said Ms. Young, but hard cost estimates surfaced only recently with the new regulation. It set the per-capita rate at $5.25 per month, which works out to $63 a year.
Your medical plan is facing an unexpected expense, so you probably are, too. It’s a new, $63-per-head fee to cushion the cost of covering people with pre-existing conditions under President Obama’s health care overhaul.
The charge, buried in a recent regulation, works out to tens of millions of dollars for the largest companies, employers say. Most of that is likely to be passed on to workers.
Employee benefits lawyer Chantel Sheaks calls it a “sleeper issue” with significant financial consequences, particularly for large employers.
“Especially at a time when we are facing economic uncertainty, [companies will] be hit with a multimillion-dollar assessment without getting anything back for it,” said Mr. Sheaks, a principal at Buck Consultants, a Xerox subsidiary.
Based on figures provided in the regulation, employer and individual health plans covering an estimated 190 million Americans could owe the per-person fee.
The Obama administration says it is a temporary assessment levied for three years starting in 2014, designed to raise $25 billion. It starts at $63 and then declines.
Most of the money will go into a fund administered by the Health and Human Services Department. It will be used to cushion health insurance companies from the initial hard-to-predict costs of covering uninsured people with medical problems. Under the law, insurers will be forbidden from turning away the sick as of Jan. 1, 2014.
The program “is intended to help millions of Americans purchase affordable health insurance, reduce unreimbursed usage of hospital and other medical facilities by the uninsured and thereby lower medical expenses and premiums for all,” the Obama administration says in the regulation. An accompanying media fact sheet issued Nov. 30 referred to “contributions” without detailing the total cost and scope of the program.
Of the total pot, $5 billion will go directly to the U.S. Treasury, apparently to offset the cost of shoring up employer-sponsored coverage for early retirees.
The $25 billion fee is part of a bigger package of taxes and fees to finance Mr. Obama’s expansion of coverage to the uninsured. It all comes to about $700 billion over 10 years, and includes higher Medicare taxes effective this Jan. 1 on individuals making more than $200,000 per year or couples making more than $250,000. People above those threshold amounts also face an additional 3.8 percent tax on their investment income.
But the insurance fee had been overlooked as employers focused on other costs in the law, including fines for medium and large firms that don’t provide coverage.
“This kind of came out of the blue and was a surprisingly large amount,” said Gretchen Young, senior vice president for health policy at the ERISA Industry Committee, a group that represents large employers on benefits issues.





















I wonder how you would feel.....now pay close attention morons.....if you or someone in your family had a pre-existing condition and was refused health insurance..
Oh, wait....I know....you fools would sit them down and tell them: Sue/Phil....we truly oppose contributing anything to your welfare....or health care...so just go ahead and die!
Fact:
My father who has a history of heart disease had a Quad-Bypass in 2007. This was his second bypass in 19 years. He has also had stints and under gone several heart caths... In June he had to have a pace maker installed.. Because he has been self employed the majority of his life and because the high cost of insurance coverage because of his "pre-exhisting condition" he could not afford insurance. Both instances he was given treatment just like anyone else, he wasn't left to die..... I had a double bypass in 2008 I have full insurance.. My treatment was no better or worse than his...
My mother retired from the billing department in a major hospital... I work part time security in a major hospital now. I see scores of people come into the ER without the ability to pay... People get treated regardless of insurance or the ability to pay.....
So i'm not buying the "Henny Penny" philosophy.....
Try reading the other 100,000 paragraphs in the 2000 page document......
Just remember "you reap what you sow"
Now, in your case, or rather your father's, if your mother worked for a major hospital, I would think that she would have had your father on her family policy. I know when my wife worked for a hospital...our coverage was very good. Later on did he have medicare? Or is he being billed for the services.
I was a business owner, so yes...I know a bit about that kind of situation.
Yes, people do get treated...because federal law requires any hospital that gets federal funds to treat those that cannot pay.
You completely misunderstood the point in my post....its about all of the freaking whining and complaining over every little penny.....
No, I haven't read every paragraph, though I am tempted to...because I believe that there is a significant amount of bs flying around about the issue. Have you read all of the paragraphs.....
What it seems to me....is that many people complain to hear themselves complain....and I do find it amazing that of all the modern and wealthy countries....we are the ONLY one with no national health plan.....
There is nothing that has been passed into law or regulation that cannot be changed or amended as needed.
I can tell you this. I recently became aware that the police department I work for, as will many other police and fire services, no longer be able to work part time officers or firefighters beyond the scope of 24 hours in a given week.
Because part of the new law "dictates" that if they do they will be required to place those personnel on the insurance the same as full time personnel in adition to paying the additional fee per employee. This will ultimately hurt communities with small police departments... (less than 50 officers) as patrol coverages and protection will suffer at the hands of osterity..
This bill law has alot of cause and effect that will ultimately hurt the majority not the minority of people in this country. But it got rammed down everyones throat regardless of likes or dislikes.......
I personally know of at leaset three doctors so far that have closed their private practice to go to work in the VA... Don't be surprisedif this becomes a trend across the nation...
Pelosi..."We have to pass it to see what's in it" One of the STUPIDEST people and comments I have ever heard! but wait, THEY are exempt from the BamaCareNightmare!
NOTHING IS FREE IN THIS WORLD.
You were warned and now we are all going to suffer together, don't think we won't beat you like a government mule every chance we get, you're going to get what's coming to you.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
If liberals had their way..... They would charge a Tax on every pet you have and require you to have Healthcare for Every pet.
THINK LIBERALS WOULD NEVER DO THAT? I said it now so I can say later
I TOLD YOU SO
unemployment benefits
Social security
Welfare
Fdic insurance on your savings
Medicare and medicaid
Now Obamacare
ALL ARE LIBERAL SOCIALIST PROGRAMS AND AMERICA LOVES THEM
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?
I have medicare already so i dont have to bother with it
I refuse Obama Healthcare even if there is a fine for not taking it. I won't Period.
YES I do have Medical anyway but I am saying if Obama Care was replaced by Military HealthCare, I would refuse it
A Victory for Capitalism. ONE CHIP AT A TIME
Someone getting $7.00 an hour better be living at home with Mom or have a wife that is working too.
I love WalMart and although people complain about how they treat their employees, that is between the employees and WalMart.
I am a Consumer and I look for lower Prices and WalMart knows that if they ever become Union, they will not ever again be able to offer low prices to the Customers.
I called and I wrote WalMart Corp. and told them that if they ever become Union, I will never again shop there.
They assured me that that won't happen and all the employees I have talked to do not want that either
He is considered middle class and can support a household of 4
A non union driver makes btwn $8 to $10 an hour no benefits
Hes considered poor and can not mantain a family of four
There will be a lot of legal ramifications involved and I am not a Lawyer but i see challenges to companies by non union workers.
The Company itself provides Benefits to the employees and I believe that most Companies will be delighted to have employees non union. Less of a burden on them.
I see Cities, and Counties who have Unions and Big Pention plans as a way to promote what was done in Mich., also in other states as well.
Because If i was the president of a Company, and I was snowed under by Union Pentions, I would file Bankruptcy and re-construct benefit packages
And Companies are doing this all over. Look at San Beradino, CA as an Example