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Obamacare costs more, not less

Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/09/27 01:25:39
Thanks for nothing, Obama.
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That's right, sportsfans. Three thousand bucks more a year for the typical family. That's a 24 percent rise in four years. Obama said that health care would cost the typical family $2500 LESS. It didn't work out that way, did it?

And what do you expect? The underlying costs are rising faster than anyone expected (or admitted).

And get this: doctors aren't so much quitting in large numbers (though some are), as not being in the pipeline. The bright students aren't going into medicine anymore. Med school applications are down. Time was, look to your left, and look to your right, and one of you will get in and the other two will not. Not anymore!

"Let them discover the kind of doctors their system will now produce..."

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  • Hamilton 2012/10/29 20:34:38
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    Hamilton
    +1
    Like P.J. O'Rourke warned us... "If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait to see how expensive it is when It is free."
  • DANNY59 2012/10/03 09:57:06
    This is not true!
    DANNY59
    +1
    As Mitt Romney continues to say anything to get elected – now promising to repeal the Affordable Care Act – it's hard to believe that it was only six years ago that then-Governor Romney shared the President’s position that we should take on rising health care costs and provide affordable, accessible health care to all Americans. He even included the individual mandate as part of the health reform legislation he signed into law in Massachusetts, which served as the national model for the Affordable Care Act.
    “Now, Romney apparently doesn’t believe any of these things. He wants to allow insurance companies to be able to drop your coverage at the very moment you need it most, to continue refusing to cover people with pre-existing conditions, to be able to charge women up to 50 percent more than men for the same coverage, and to have no obligation to cover important preventive care like regular checkups, mammograms, colonoscopies or other cancer screenings. The analysis by the Commonwealth Fund, a New York-based health care research foundation, found that under Romney’s health care plan, the uninsured population would soar to 72 million by 2022 — 12 million higher than if nothing had been done at all. By contrast, if President Barack Obama’s health care law is fully implemented — ...

    As Mitt Romney continues to say anything to get elected – now promising to repeal the Affordable Care Act – it's hard to believe that it was only six years ago that then-Governor Romney shared the President’s position that we should take on rising health care costs and provide affordable, accessible health care to all Americans. He even included the individual mandate as part of the health reform legislation he signed into law in Massachusetts, which served as the national model for the Affordable Care Act.
    “Now, Romney apparently doesn’t believe any of these things. He wants to allow insurance companies to be able to drop your coverage at the very moment you need it most, to continue refusing to cover people with pre-existing conditions, to be able to charge women up to 50 percent more than men for the same coverage, and to have no obligation to cover important preventive care like regular checkups, mammograms, colonoscopies or other cancer screenings. The analysis by the Commonwealth Fund, a New York-based health care research foundation, found that under Romney’s health care plan, the uninsured population would soar to 72 million by 2022 — 12 million higher than if nothing had been done at all. By contrast, if President Barack Obama’s health care law is fully implemented — including complete state participation in the now voluntary Medicaid expansion — the number of uninsured people would drop from 47.9 million in 2011 to about 27.1 million people in 2022, the report estimated.

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  • Claybern 2012/09/29 22:47:42
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    Claybern
    +1
    He lied.
  • BBLEE 2012/09/29 02:31:42
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    BBLEE
    +2
    He will go down in History as the most desrtructive President ever in our Nations history.His energy policy's are wiping out the Middle Class Added to Obamacare.
  • Tennessee3501 2012/09/28 23:54:11
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    Tennessee3501
    +2
    Government programs always wind up costing more than we were promised!
  • tikiteek 2012/09/28 21:41:25
    This is not true!
    tikiteek
    SO! we need health care, with all these diseases flying around!
  • Claybern tikiteek 2012/09/29 22:49:47
    Claybern
    It is true.
  • tff~PWCM~JLA 2012/09/28 11:23:25
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    tff~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    Economics 101: When there is a finite amount of a product and you force everyone to purchase that product, then that product automatically increases in price. Think gasoline prices and the Chinese increase of consumption.
  • SickOfBigGov 2012/09/28 02:53:15 (edited)
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    SickOfBigGov
    +2
    You mean you actually believed what Obama told you? When will you learn? And also, what you will learn if this thing actually goes thru, is that the quality of your care will go down...You can send your thank you notes Obama, Pelosi and Reid
  • Claybern SickOfB... 2012/09/29 22:51:30
    Claybern
    Don't forget about the death panels.
  • Captain-Morgan 2012/09/28 01:52:06
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    Captain-Morgan
    +2
    FOOL US ONCE... SHAME ON YOU! FOOL US TWICE, SHAME ON US...

    IT'S UP TO US NOW...
  • Louisa - Enemy of the State 2012/09/27 19:13:06
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    Louisa - Enemy of the State
    +3
    Seriously, anyone who thought that medical costs were going to decrease lacks the ability to reason. We all know the pitfalls of socialized medicine. If you can't arrive at a conclusion through logic, then just look to the countries who have socialized medicine and read what goes on there.
  • goatman112003 2012/09/27 18:06:57
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    goatman112003
    +2
    Nothing is free and when you made insurance include everything under the sun you raised the price. When you set it up as a wealth transfer scheme you raised the price.
  • texasred 2012/09/27 17:23:39
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    texasred
    +2
    Anyone that didn't realize this really did have their head up their butt!
  • Mike 2012/09/27 16:51:14
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    Mike
    +1
    I have asked numerous sheeple how much obie care will cost and not a one of them could give me a answer
  • Red Branch 2012/09/27 16:28:32
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    Red Branch
    +1
    Separating citizens from their hard earned money is one of the few things that Liberals excel at.
  • Evan 2012/09/27 16:22:51
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    Evan
    +2
    It's just one more tool in Obama's arsenal that he has been using to destroy America. Temporarily, we pray. Our destruction is his main goal.
  • Racefish 2012/09/27 14:41:37
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    Racefish
    +2
    Liberals - screwed by their own leadership. How's that hope and change going?
  • Red Branch Racefish 2012/09/27 16:32:05
    Red Branch
    +1
    That is the same result every time Socialist policies are given free rein. It is never the fault of Socialism itself, but that the leader screwed things up. Because they all know that Socialism is perfect. Socialism in this context refers to International, National, or any other configuration.
  • Racefish Red Branch 2012/10/01 12:00:19
    Racefish
    +1
    Who was it that said Socialism id shared misery?
  • jr 2012/09/27 13:13:11
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    jr
    +2
    Everyone knew this when it was voted in except for the politicians voting for it and sometimes I wonder if they knew and did not care
  • sglmom 2012/09/27 12:59:50
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    sglmom
    +3
    YES ..
    it already DOES cost more ..
    there's also more denials of medical services too ..
    (and more providers dropping out of the pre-authorized networks and/or shuttering their practices)
  • TheTailor 2012/09/27 12:58:11
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    TheTailor
    +2
    You mean the self proclaimed "progressives" lied to us? Of course it costs more, they knew all along it would, it makes no difference so long as they are seen as giving the people "free" healthcare.
  • jp 2012/09/27 12:48:00
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    jp
    +2
    Aaah just starting to wake up. America ?
  • Seonag 2012/09/27 12:17:06
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    Seonag
    +3
    The 'estimated' costs have been rising since the first CBO cost reports. BUT, we must remember that the CBO does it's cost estimates based on the information that the Bill writers give them, and in this case, we are well aware that those figures were messed with.
  • jimmy Seonag 2012/09/27 13:09:56
    jimmy
    +3
    its called FUZZIE math
  • Seonag jimmy 2012/09/27 13:23:56
    Seonag
    +3
    And that's what makes the CBO as joke. The idea was good, but they even admit that they can only work with the information they are given and are unable to 'question' the figures.
  • jimmy Seonag 2012/09/27 13:25:59
    jimmy
    +3
    YEPPER
  • Jeff Smith 2012/09/27 11:56:07
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    Jeff Smith
    +3
    And the Federal Government is exempt from this. The whole bill is a lie and all those who orchestrated it knew it was a lie. Nancy Pelosi tops the list of stupid.
  • D D 2012/09/27 11:47:47
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    D D
    +2
    Correct! The hardest hit won't be those earning more than $250,000 a year -- the group that he says needs to "pay their fair share." Rather, it's middle class families whose combined annual income is around $100,000 who could be crushed under this plan. After income taxes, they'll
    be spending almost a quarter of their net income for health insurance.

    meup
  • JT For Political Reform 2012/09/27 11:43:57
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    JT For Political Reform
    +2
    They had to pay for this some way and the only way to do that is to raise taxes while spouting off how they are not raising taxes. This fraud is nothing more than a liar just like Wilson stated.
  • Bevos 2012/09/27 11:09:07
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    Bevos
    +4
    OWEbama LIES!!! THAT we know for SURE!!! I believe NOTHING he says, anymore. I said give him a chance, when he first got in. But he screwed that up BIG TIME right off the bat. NOW I say VOTEMOUT! VOTEMOUT! VOTEMOUT!!! 40 days!
  • ed 2012/09/27 08:55:21
    I don't know what's going on.
    ed
    +4
    [sarcasm]I don't know what's going on because obama has said it would not cost more but lower the cost
  • Vijay Pawar 2012/09/27 08:21:02
    I don't know what's going on.
    Vijay Pawar
    +1
    The cost will always increase.
  • TheTruth1313 2012/09/27 07:48:55
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    TheTruth1313
    +6
    I've been trying to get this across to the delusional obots!! Thank you for posting this!! Yes, the costs, BY FAR out weigh the benefits.
  • mustangluver 2012/09/27 07:05:02
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    mustangluver
    +3
    Here are the cons..
    Increased coverage may actually raise health care costs. That's because many people will receive preventative care and testing who, fortunately, find out they didn't have that critical illness. However, the CBO found that additional testing, such as cancer screening and cholesteral tests, will lead to higher net medical spending. (Source: CBO,2009 Study on Preventative Health Care, August 7, 2009)
    Those who don't purchase insurance, and don't qualify for Medicaid or subsidies, will be assessed a penalty of $95 (or 1% of income, whichever is higher) in 2014. It increases to $325 (or 2% of income) in 2015, and $695 (or 2.5% of income) in 2016.
    About 4 million people, or 1.2% of the population, will wind up paying the penalty rather than purchase health insurance. The CBO estimates this will total $54 billion in penalties. (Source: Washington Post Factchecker, Tax Breaks vs Tax Hikes, July 6, 2012)
    Taxes will be raised on one million individuals with annual incomes above a threshold of $200,000 and four million couples filing jointly with incomes in excess of $250,000. They would pay 2.35% (up from 1.45%) Medicare taxes on income above the threshold. In addition, they will pay a additional 3.8% Medicare taxes. This would apply to the lesser of ...


















    Here are the cons..
    Increased coverage may actually raise health care costs. That's because many people will receive preventative care and testing who, fortunately, find out they didn't have that critical illness. However, the CBO found that additional testing, such as cancer screening and cholesteral tests, will lead to higher net medical spending. (Source: CBO,2009 Study on Preventative Health Care, August 7, 2009)
    Those who don't purchase insurance, and don't qualify for Medicaid or subsidies, will be assessed a penalty of $95 (or 1% of income, whichever is higher) in 2014. It increases to $325 (or 2% of income) in 2015, and $695 (or 2.5% of income) in 2016.
    About 4 million people, or 1.2% of the population, will wind up paying the penalty rather than purchase health insurance. The CBO estimates this will total $54 billion in penalties. (Source: Washington Post Factchecker, Tax Breaks vs Tax Hikes, July 6, 2012)
    Taxes will be raised on one million individuals with annual incomes above a threshold of $200,000 and four million couples filing jointly with incomes in excess of $250,000. They would pay 2.35% (up from 1.45%) Medicare taxes on income above the threshold. In addition, they will pay a additional 3.8% Medicare taxes. This would apply to the lesser of income from dividends, capital gains, rent and royalties or income above the threshold. (Source: Smart Money, What Obamacare Means for Taxes, June 28, 2012)
    Pharmaceutical companies will pay an extra $84.8 billion in fees over the next ten years to pay for closing the "donut hole" in Medicare Part D. This could raise drug costs if they pass this onto consumers.
    In 2018, insurance companies will be assessed a 40% excise tax on "Cadillac" health plans. These are plans with annual premiums exceeding $10,200 for individuals or $27,500 for families. Many of these plans are for people in high-risk pools, such as older workers or union workers in high-risk jobs. (Source: Kaiser, Cadillac Tax Explained, March 18, 2010)
    Medical-device manufacturers and importers will pay a 2.3% excise tax. Indoor tanning services already pay a 10% excise tax. This could discourage those businesses from hiring new employees.
    Between 3-5 million people could lose their company-sponsored health care plans. Many businesses will find it more cost-effective to pay the penalty and let their employees purchase their own insurance plans on the exchanges. Other small businesses might find they can get a better plan through the state-run exchanges. (Source: CBO, The Effects of the Affordable Care Act on Employment-Based Health Insurance, March 15, 2012)
    There are 30.1 million people who currently buy their own private health insurance. Many of them may need to get another plan if their insurance doesn't meet the minimum standards -- which haven't yet been established. (Source: Factcheck.org, The Keep Your Plan Promise, June 28, 2012)
    In 2014,those under 65 can only deduct medical expenses if they exceed 10% of income.

    In addition, the conservative think tank The Heritage Foundation lists its analysis of the disadvantages of Obamacare. For more, see Heritage Foundation, Impact of Obamacare.
    Is Obamacare Unconstitutional?
    On June 28, 2012, the Supreme Court ruled that the Federal government does not have the Constitutional right to mandate that people must buy health insurance from a private company. However, it does have the right to tax those that don't. Therefore, it upheld the Act.

    The Court struck down the mandate that states must add people to Medicaid. However, many states will still take advantage of this portion of Obamacare because the Federal government will foot the bill for the first several years.





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  • 3kidsandamom 2012/09/27 07:02:33
    Thanks for nothing, Obama.
    3kidsandamom
    +6
    If you can't afford to purchase insurance & don't qualify for government care there will be a tax bill waiting to help bankrupt you completely! If Romney doesn't win we will then see Dr's leaving the profession. My neurologist informed his patients he's counting on the American people to keep him practicing but if Obama does win he will then have no choice but to shut down his office, as there will be no hope in repealing Obamacare! If Obama does win we will then see the real cost of Obamacare both financially and the services people will no longer receive! Praying people wake up before November to the truth of who Obama really is and his ultimate plans for America's destruction!
  • Scrappyang 3kidsan... 2012/10/03 03:10:47
    Scrappyang
    +1
    DO either of you have health insurrance? Does your employer pay for it or do you? Do you know someone who has had to have radiation and chemo treatmernts and know how much they cost per treatment?
  • 3kidsan... Scrappyang 2012/10/04 04:44:58
    3kidsandamom
    +1
    What does this have to do with anything I said? Obamacare will bankrupt the people and cost America good doctors as they will no longer be able to afford to keep their practices open, this is just the reality of it. It's no concern of yours what insurance I have or who pays for it.
  • Scrappyang 3kidsan... 2012/10/04 21:01:08
    Scrappyang
    I didn't expect you to answer. I asked those questions to have you think about it. There are lotsof working people who make minumum wage with no insuraqnce offered and can't afford to buy their own. As for the last questions, I just happen to know after going through it twice in 2 years. The radiation treatments were over a thousand dollars a day and I had it 35 days for each time. What would happen to that minumim wage worker who might have cancer? I guess because they are one of the 47% they are suppose to forget treatment. Doctors also said they would close up if they had to pay more in malpractice insurance, but not many did. Neither will they this time. At 65 to over 100$ a pop to say 7 words will keep them in practice. What 7 words? "Everything looks good. See you in a month."

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