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iamnothere 2012/08/17 13:05:31
Obama campaign offers Romney 5-year tax disclosure
Aug 17, 7:39 AM (ET)

By CHARLES BABINGTON

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GREENVILLE, S.C. (AP) - Barack Obama's re-election campaign kept up pressure against Republican rival Mitt Romney on two fronts Friday, launching a new ad defending the president's record on Medicare while challenging Romney to release at least five years of tax returns.

The TV advertisement - accusing Romney and running mate Paul Ryan of undermining the health care program critical to millions of seniors, came as Romney made plans to spend his time raising money in non-battleground states. That remains a top priority even with the election less than 12 weeks away and Obama making extended visits to toss-up states such as Iowa and Ohio.

Obama campaign manager Jim Messina made the tax-disclosure offer to Romney campaign manager Matt Rhoades in a letter Friday morning. Messina said he was taking the step because Romney "apparently fears the more he offers, the more our campaign will demand that he provide."Romney's wife, Ann, has repeatedly stated that concern in interviews, arguing that the more the couple releases, the more questions are asked.

Romney released his 2010 taxes and has pledged to release his 2011 returns. Messina said in letter that he wants Romney to provide three more years of returns.

Obama's campaign has questioned whether there are years when Romney paid no taxes. Romney defended his record Thursday, saying he has paid at least 13 percent of his income in federal taxes every year for the past decade.

"I did go back and look at my taxes and over the past 10 years I never paid less than 13 percent," Romney told reporters after he landed in South Carolina for a fundraising event Thursday. "I think the most recent year is 13.6 or something like that. So I paid taxes every single year."

Aides later said Romney meant to say 13.9 percent, the amount he already disclosed for his 2010 federal return.

On average, middle income families, those making from $50,000 to $75,000 a year, pay 12.8 percent of their income in federal taxes, according to the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation. In 2010 and 2011, Romney made about $21 million a year.

Romney is able to keep his tax rate low because most of his income is from investments, which are generally taxed at a lower rate than wages. That type of legal tax figuring is something Obama has proposed changing, although his campaign notably said nothing about Romney's self-described tax rate itself.

In the new Medicare ad, Obama's campaign pointed to the AARP, an organization that represents senior citizens and which said in a letter to lawmakers earlier this year that Ryan's plan to transform Medicare into a voucher-like system would lead to higher costs for seniors.

The AARP said that Obama's approach would strengthen the program. Romney has criticized Obama for taking more than $700 billion in Medicare funds to help pay for the president's health care law.

Obama's campaign is running the ad in eight states: New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Colorado and Nevada.

This comes while Romney is campaigning in Alabama, South Carolina, Massachusetts and New York. He plans visits next week to Texas, Louisiana and New Mexico.

To be sure, Obama attends numerous fundraisers of his own. And Romney has spent significant time at public campaign events in swing states, and he will do so many times again before Nov. 6.

But the amount of time Romney is devoting to private fundraisers in noncompetitive states is notable. Even when he is in swing states, he sometimes attends only a fundraiser, without mingling with non-donors or appearing before local TV cameras, as he did Wednesday in Charlotte, N.C.

Romney is pouring time into fundraisers even though he has outdistanced Obama on that front for months. The former Massachusetts governor reported raising more than $101 million along with the Republican National Committee in July. Obama's campaign and Democratic National Committee raised $75 million for the month.

Romney's money advantage is expanded by technically independent groups flooding airwaves with ads criticizing Obama. Two pro-GOP super PACS - Restore Our Future and American Crossroads - have raised more than $122 million since the beginning of last year. Democratic-leaning groups Priorities USA Action and American Bridge 21st Century have raised about $30 million in that time.

Obama recently told voters, "Over the course of the next three months, the other side is going to spend more money than we have ever seen on ads that basically say the same thing you've been hearing for the past three months: The economy is not where it needs to be, and it's Obama's fault."

The candidate with the most money and TV ads doesn't necessarily win elections, and most polls suggest Obama holds a slight lead among voters. For now, at least, Romney's team has decided that pouring much of his time into fundraising is more valuable than another quick visit to Colorado, Florida or the other eight or 10 competitive states.

Romney, who made millions of dollars heading the private equity firm Bain Capital, is skilled at extracting money from supporters.

His Wednesday midday event in Charlotte drew more than 100 people who paid between $2,500 and $50,000 each, netting his campaign about $1.5 million. That night, a somewhat larger crowd at a swank club overlooking Birmingham, Ala., generated more than $2 million, campaign aides said.

A midday event Thursday in Greenville produced $1.7 million, and Romney held other fundraisers Thursday night in Boston. He has similar events scheduled this weekend and for much of next week.

The strategy is keeping him away from public events in competitive states for five straight days, barring a change in plans this weekend. He made a major speech in Ohio on Tuesday before diving into a long string of fundraisers in various states.

Some campaign strategists say the Obama and Romney camps have so much money that they can saturate the airwaves in competitive states, and further fundraising amounts to overkill.

Texas-based GOP consultant Matt Mackowiak disagrees. He said Romney himself must attend fundraisers if he expects people to fork over as much as $50,000. "You're not going to be successful with a surrogate," he said.

Soon Romney will need time to devote big amounts of time to preparing for his three debates with Obama, and final-sprint campaigning, Mackowiak said, "so they're trying to pack in the fundraising before Labor Day."

Top-tier donors get private time to chat with Romney, out of reporters' sight. Those giving less money attend larger gatherings in which Romney gives a basic speech emphasizing the importance of entrepreneurs who create jobs.

He has been greatly impressed by "the power of individuals, the power of a citizen, a person, to change things for the better," he told the Greenville luncheon group.

Romney managed to stay in the news this week by taking reporters' questions Thursday in South Carolina, where he was pressed about his personal tax returns. Like Obama, he often grants interviews, by satellite, to local TV stations in swing states.

Next stop? A fundraiser Friday at the Sebonack Golf Club in Southampton, N.Y.
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  • Matt 2012/08/17 13:54:54
    Matt
    +11
    Somebody should explain to Obama, the difference between transparency and invisibility.
    Obama Invisible

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  • Kaleokualoha 2012/09/23 18:55:37 (edited)
    Kaleokualoha
    +1
    Obama and Biden released ten years of tax returns (see http://www.taxhistory.org/www... ). Once Romney does the same, they can discuss releasing other personal records.

    Further, Obama has not "sealed" any records. That is another myth from the Conservative Disinformation Network. Records may only be "sealed" by court order.
  • iamnothere Kaleoku... 2012/09/23 20:41:15
    iamnothere
    since Obama and biden have pretty much been on the public dole for the last ten years.. nothing new there... reality.. and please feel free to show where this list is incorrect

    List of Obama's Sealed and Unreleased Records

    Hat Tip List of Obama's sealed and unreleased records - Topix

    Sure, there’s (1) the original, long-form 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate. Then there’s:

    2) Marriage license between Obama’s father (Barak Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham)— not found, not released

    3) Obama’s baptism records — sealed

    4) Obama’s adoption records — sealed

    5) Records of Obama’s and his mother’s reptriation as US citizens on return from Indonesia — not found, not released

    6) Name change (Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama) records — not found, not released

    7) Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii)— not released

    8) Punahou School financial aid or school records — not released

    9) Occidental College financial aid records — not released.(These records were, however, subpoenaed but Obama lawyers succeeded in quashing the subpoena in court. No other Occi records have been released.)

    10) Columbia College records — not released

    11) Columbia senior thesis — not released

    12) Harvard Law School records (not mentioned below, but not released)

    13) Obama’s law client list — sealed

    14) Obama’s files from career...





    since Obama and biden have pretty much been on the public dole for the last ten years.. nothing new there... reality.. and please feel free to show where this list is incorrect

    List of Obama's Sealed and Unreleased Records

    Hat Tip List of Obama's sealed and unreleased records - Topix

    Sure, there’s (1) the original, long-form 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate. Then there’s:

    2) Marriage license between Obama’s father (Barak Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham)— not found, not released

    3) Obama’s baptism records — sealed

    4) Obama’s adoption records — sealed

    5) Records of Obama’s and his mother’s reptriation as US citizens on return from Indonesia — not found, not released

    6) Name change (Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama) records — not found, not released

    7) Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii)— not released

    8) Punahou School financial aid or school records — not released

    9) Occidental College financial aid records — not released.(These records were, however, subpoenaed but Obama lawyers succeeded in quashing the subpoena in court. No other Occi records have been released.)

    10) Columbia College records — not released

    11) Columbia senior thesis — not released

    12) Harvard Law School records (not mentioned below, but not released)

    13) Obama’s law client list — sealed

    14) Obama’s files from career as an Illinois State Senator — sealed

    15) Obama’s record with Illinois State Bar Association — sealed

    16) Obama’s medical records — not released

    17) Obama’s passport records — not released
    (more)
  • Kaleoku... iamnothere 2012/09/23 22:47:09
    Kaleokualoha
    Sorry, but you have been misled. According to factcheck.org:

    [QUOTE]
    Obama’s ‘Sealed’ Records
    Posted on July 31, 2012

    Q: Are Obama’s early records “sealed”?

    A: No. Many records that presidential candidates don’t ordinarily release do remain confidential, but they are not “sealed” by a court. The 16 claims in a widely distributed graphic are mostly false or distorted.
    [END QUOTE http://www.factcheck.org/2012... ]

    Such misrepresentation is common in the Conservative Disinformation Network (see http://kaleokualoha2878577.ne... ]

    "The first duty of a man is the seeking after and the investigation of truth." - Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC)
  • iamnothere Kaleoku... 2012/09/24 11:25:16
    iamnothere
    redacted not sealed HA just redacted
  • Kaleoku... iamnothere 2012/09/24 21:15:51
    Kaleokualoha
    What Obama records were redacted?
  • iamnothere Kaleoku... 2012/09/24 22:52:42
    iamnothere
    suggest you go look starting from passport to school records..
  • Kaleoku... iamnothere 2012/09/24 23:10:10
    Kaleokualoha
    His private records were withheld, not redacted. If you have any evidence that they were actually redacted (i.e., edited to block some text while releasing other text on specific pages), please provide such evidence.
  • iamnothere Kaleoku... 2012/09/24 23:13:01
    iamnothere
    I was being rhetorical.. but you are more than welcome to find his school records and post them here .. or find his actual social security number..
    or his passport information and post it here..

    Reality.. one does not spend over a million to hide records.. But Obama did and that is well documented.. I did not believe it till I started looking so it might as well all be redacted..
  • Kaleoku... iamnothere 2012/09/24 23:21:32
    Kaleokualoha
    That is more disinformation. See http://www.obamaconspiracy.or...
  • iamnothere Kaleoku... 2012/09/24 23:56:25
    iamnothere
    an interesting read.. but no real conclusions there either since he had two different view points
  • Andrew 2012/08/20 05:36:54
    Andrew
    +1
    Obama is hiding a lot I just know it, and if we knew about it, we would see him for the fraud he is.
  • bpf 2012/08/18 04:11:00
    bpf
    +1
    Very valid points for anyone with an open mind..."The door swings both ways"!
  • iamnothere bpf 2012/08/18 10:21:37
    iamnothere
    that is obvious when he came out for gay unions LOL
  • Beagle Mom 2012/08/18 00:08:38
    Beagle Mom
    +1
    Obama is really becoming boring. Seems hope and change morphed into blah blah blah.
  • Stoner 2012/08/17 22:59:56
    Stoner
    +1
    how can he demand anything...when i was a kid my grandpa used to tell me lead by example
  • Diane Spraggs Yates 2012/08/17 22:42:04
    Diane Spraggs Yates
    +1
    Get over it we are not interested in Romney taxes we are more interested about our own !!!! Classwarfare is a loser topic !!!! The One -- just, instead, as another scheming Chicago politician. He is increasingly viewed as arrogant, dishonest, and incompetent. These are not messianic attributes. He is just another politician, although more flawed than most.
  • Donna 2012/08/17 22:34:14 (edited)
    Donna
    +2
    What a moron .... Let's see a real B.C, some college transcripts & a copy of Obama's fake SS card....
  • Diane S... Donna 2012/08/17 22:43:36
    Diane Spraggs Yates
    +2
    Amen Donna exactly what I want to see too!
  • Semper Fi 2012/08/17 22:22:09
    Semper Fi
    +2
    Great post!
  • jerry 2012/08/17 21:52:37
    jerry
    +3
    You first Kenyan
  • heirsoftheking 2012/08/17 21:29:47
    heirsoftheking
    +2
    Does he want my underwear, too?
  • iamnothere heirsof... 2012/08/18 01:00:59
    iamnothere
    +1
    you betcha.. but they wont fit michell
  • Oltom 2012/08/17 20:34:17
    Oltom
    +3
    How about Obama's college transcripts?
  • Ozzyboy 2012/08/17 20:32:00
    Ozzyboy
    +3
    Who is he to demand papers when he refused to furnish correct documentation in the first place. It sounds very much like 0's saying do my bidding or I will talk smack about you without any evidence or proof. Loser much? It sounds like 0 is running scared.
  • Space Invader 2012/08/17 19:58:19
    Space Invader
    +4
    Barry...put or shut up
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2012/08/17 19:33:02
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +6
    Can anyone say Hypocrite obaaaaama? hypocrite obama
  • Don 2012/08/17 19:20:23
    Don
    +2
    How's it feel to want, Empty Suit?
  • Mark P. 2012/08/17 18:53:06
    Mark P.
    +6
    Lets stick to the economy and how we straighten it out and cut with the distractions.
  • Lady Wh... Mark P. 2012/08/17 20:49:41
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    agreed
  • 4570GOVT 2012/08/17 18:19:08
    4570GOVT
    +5
    The Radical Left ( Obama's Army Of Obamabots ) are keeping " THIS " In the News ?
    Wonder WHY ? - ANSWER : They Refuse To Talk About Issues ! This Is A Distraction , Nothing Else .
    I'm ( and everybody else ) waiting For Romney To Ask For The Things AMERICA Really Wants To Know About Obama ( The MOST Secretive President In American History - A Man With NO HISTORY ).
    You See , Romney Is A Genuine NICE GUY Who Gives MILLIONS To Charity , Works For Free ( donates his time ) , Family Man Who Helps Others and Lives A Religous Lifestyle ( that alone upsets them ) .................. He Has No Faults That They Know Of !

    The " USUAL SUSPECTS " Are Behind These Attacks On Romney . They Should Be VERY CAREFUL However . Those Who Live In Glass Houses Should NEVER Throw Stones !
  • Diane S... 4570GOVT 2012/08/17 22:44:58
    Diane Spraggs Yates
    +1
    The One -- just, instead, as another scheming Chicago politician. He is increasingly viewed as arrogant, dishonest, and incompetent. These are not messianic attributes. He is just another politician, although more flawed than most.
  • sammanilla 2012/08/17 17:31:19
    sammanilla
    +7
    Obama, you go first.

    obama
  • Striker 2012/08/17 17:30:56
    Striker
    +5
    Obama is not even a citizen, so that alone makes him an illegal alien and pseudo-prez.

    Romney should say "prove your eligibility and I'll show my tax returns". We know he won't.
  • Mr. T Striker 2012/08/17 19:16:34
    Mr. T
    +4
    Bingo. The fact Romney and crew are not all over Obama's SS number and photoshopped BC just shows how weak they are. If I were him, I would have spoken to Sheriff Joe and his Cold Posse, verified everything they have found and make it headline news for all to see.
  • Striker Mr. T 2012/08/17 20:39:56
    Striker
    +2
    GOOD thinking!
  • bpf Mr. T 2012/08/18 04:18:51
    bpf
    +1
    That's a very slippery position for Romney to go after the press is looking for anything they can hang him on...If he does take that route Romney would be tagged a racist by every News group, TV station in the country. Romney should take the high road .."But when he wins" he should open a federal investigation, using Presidential powers get all documentation of Obama's real background. If the proof is clear that Obama lied to win the office then arrest Obama, his wife, and every Democratic Senator, Congressman and whom ever else was involved for high crimes against the American people.
  • Lanikai 2012/08/17 17:30:27
    Lanikai
    +4
    Hypocrisy is the DEM bylaw.


    Dirty dealing bastards.
  • Hawkeye 2012/08/17 16:46:29
    Hawkeye
    +10
    Isn't it AMAZING that those who DEMAND that Romney release his records for the last ten years ( but will NOW settle for 5 ) INSIST that he's trying to HIDE something when he refuses even though there is ZERO evidence of ANY crime or ANY wrongdoing yet they give OBAMA a PASS and even insist that HE,, Obama,, has EVERY right to actually hide any and all evidence involving the MURDERS of Mexican and American Citizens that are a DIRECT consequence of Obama's ILLEGAL Fast and Furious operation??

    Things that make you go;;


    Hmmmmmm.....
  • pamela Hawkeye 2012/08/17 23:54:34
    pamela
    +1
    Another thing, is that should Romney release 3 more years of tax returns, total of 5, won't be enough to settle the dems and their aching need to abuse the republicans and still want more of something. It's like giving them and inch and they demand another yard. Should any of this happen Romney will have to step up to the plate and counter offer. Don't even know if that will ever happen.
  • Hawkeye pamela 2012/08/18 00:00:53
    Hawkeye
    +3
    Obama is looking for ANY reason to NOT talk about his record.. He TRIED doing that but they laughed him off the stage when he LIED about his successes..

    THIS business of wanting Romney's records is NO different then when the Media sent THOUSANDS of reporters to Alaska to rummage through Palin's Garbage..

    They are bdiging for dirt and if they can't FIND any,, they'll make it UP..

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