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  • Bill 2012/08/16 13:45:23
    Illegal
    Bill
    +1
    Sign the petition against Obama's amnesty here...

    http://petitions.iceunion.org...
  • DavidK 2012/06/22 06:57:21
    Illegal
    DavidK
  • sissi 2012/06/15 22:40:05
    Undecided
    sissi
    +1
    Of course it's illegal but it will be legal if these illegal's get to vote...
  • Space I... sissi 2012/06/16 00:44:54
    Space Invader
    r43663

    Guess what little man? You can stay here now because I said so! Remember to vote for me in 2024
  • DavidK sissi 2012/06/23 16:34:55
    DavidK
    +1
    Obama's campaign slogan..... "AMERICA, TAKE DOWN THAT WALL". Mr. Obama, you are NO Ronald Reagan! What allows you the right to open our borders to illegals? What part of Ronald Reagans message did you not get? We all know you're intent here. Hell, even the illegals are beginning to shy away. You can't get enough of those illegal votes no matter how much you try. Liberalism is NOT our key to freedom and you're path to Marxism and beyond is very evident!
  • ray 2012/06/15 18:52:26
    Illegal
    ray
    +2
    There's no way in hell it's legal. The country is doing bad enough with the unemployment, yet he thinks increasing the population is the solution. We do have an immigration policy.

    He's only doing this to get votes. As senator he hated gay marriage now all of a sudden he loves it so gay people will vote. Now he's giving children amnesty so Mexicans will vote for him.
  • Space I... ray 2012/06/15 19:31:25
  • ray Space I... 2012/06/15 20:20:12 (edited)
    ray
    +1
    Obama will do anything to get votes.
  • Space I... ray 2012/06/15 21:52:28
    Space Invader
    I can dig it...
  • Denis B 2012/06/15 17:50:31
    Legal
    Denis B
    What ever happened to following the inscription that is written upon the Srtatue of Liberty? Those who emigrate to another country only want to enjoy the opportunity to work and be productive. Why not allow them that God given right? Or has too much material jealousy gripped our once beautiful USA? Keep America beautiful. Give the poor a chance to work and live with dignity Statue of Liberty inscription Statue of Liberty
  • BackWoo... Denis B 2012/06/15 18:38:56
    BackWoodsMike
    +2
    The Statue of Liberty does not set our Immigration policy..

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    Lady Liberty Not a Welcome Mat
    By Brenda Walker
    Published in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer on July 4, 2003

    Great icons may suffer great misunderstandings in which erroneous mythology grows to obliterate the real meaning of an important symbol. Probably the most misunderstood image in America is the Statue of Liberty, which is surely burdened with more wrong ideas than any other symbol in our history.

    First and foremost, Lady Liberty was never designed as a welcome mat for immigrants, those huddled masses about whom we hear so much sentimentality. The real name of the statue is "Liberty Enlightening the World" which states the true meaning.

    Indeed, the sculptor's intent was for the statue to inspire millions around the world to emulate the freedom of the United States, not to leave home and come here. The statue is at heart a revolutionary symbol for the oppressed to throw off their chains and create their own democracy under law. Sculptor Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi believed deeply in republican government and dreamed of having it in his native France, remarking, "I will try to glorify the Republic and Liberty over there, in the hope that someday I will find it again here."

    Further, the Emma Lazarus poem, "The ...
















    The Statue of Liberty does not set our Immigration policy..

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    Lady Liberty Not a Welcome Mat
    By Brenda Walker
    Published in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer on July 4, 2003

    Great icons may suffer great misunderstandings in which erroneous mythology grows to obliterate the real meaning of an important symbol. Probably the most misunderstood image in America is the Statue of Liberty, which is surely burdened with more wrong ideas than any other symbol in our history.

    First and foremost, Lady Liberty was never designed as a welcome mat for immigrants, those huddled masses about whom we hear so much sentimentality. The real name of the statue is "Liberty Enlightening the World" which states the true meaning.

    Indeed, the sculptor's intent was for the statue to inspire millions around the world to emulate the freedom of the United States, not to leave home and come here. The statue is at heart a revolutionary symbol for the oppressed to throw off their chains and create their own democracy under law. Sculptor Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi believed deeply in republican government and dreamed of having it in his native France, remarking, "I will try to glorify the Republic and Liberty over there, in the hope that someday I will find it again here."

    Further, the Emma Lazarus poem, "The New Colossus" which is a hymn to immigration, is not inscribed on the base of the statue, as some would have us believe, and has no connection at all with Bartholdi's vision. The statue was inaugurated in 1886 quite adequately with no Emma Lazarus. The poem's inclusion was a completely separate event, dedicated by some friends of the poet in 1903 after her death.

    The Statue of Liberty's intent to inspire people to build their own democratic societies is even more important now that the planet is home to over six billion persons. The huddled masses cannot all be saved by immigration to America. The rescue paradigm of immigration is clearly no longer appropriate, if it ever was. The numbers of needy poor worldwide are simply too high.

    In fact, the "wretched refuse of your teeming shore" threatens to become a permanent underclass, since even the most basic educational standards in selecting immigrants have been disregarded. Because of the emphasis on "family reunification," one-third of current legal immigrants have not graduated from high school -- hardly the ideal newcomers to a modern society in the 21st century.

    Each of those immigrants without a high school education will consume an average of $89,000 in services beyond what is paid in taxes, according to a National Academy of Sciences study.

    The Lazarus poem should be removed from Bedloe Island and banished to a dark corner of the Smithsonian as an artifact of another time. The poem perpetuates the myth that America can grow in population forever, which is a deeply damaging idea. The physical requirements of so many people are destroying the nation's environmental carrying capacity and our natural heritage of inspiring open vistas.

    Removing the plaque would be an important step toward reclaiming our heritage. "Liberty Enlightening the World" is a far more noble sentiment than "Mother of Exiles" which celebrates victimhood. We must face the limits of our overcrowded world with creativity and realism. America's message for this century must be to urge local development, e.g. through microlending. On the crowded planet, relieving poverty where people live must be the aim.

    It's high time that America provided better environmental leadership regarding overpopulation, and removing the obsolete Lazarus poem from the Statue of Liberty would be a good place to start.
    Brenda Walker is a writer living in California. She is the project director of www.ImmigrationsHumanCost.org.

    http://www.immigrationshumanc...

    It's our Constitution and Laws that define our regulation of immigration, not a gift from the French.
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  • Denis B BackWoo... 2012/06/16 06:52:12 (edited)
    Denis B
    Not all of the immigrants who seek to come to the USA are lacking high school education. Some hold tertiary school level educational requisites and advanced degrees.. We need these immigrants in the country due to the capriciousness of racism and religious fanaticism..It is much more acceptable for an immigrant to create an American job in a small business than it is for an American citizen born here to do so. In making material jealousy acceptable in its practice, we have converted the USA into a ghetto country which enjoys marginalizing its academics until most leave the country in search of opportunity somewhere else. President Obama's decision is a result of the petty jealousy demonstrated by the American middle class. Some of the newly integrated and adopted Americans will succeed and become tax payers. We have developed into a country whose misery index is too high to allow our fellow home grown Americans to create small businesses. We use religion and racism to make excuses for not wanting to see Americans thrive. Let those who can't find jobs in America emigrate to other lands were they may live better. Let those from other countries come here. Why shouldn't they become educated here?Or do you propose that the statement by Emma Lazarus which is engraved on a plaque...
    Not all of the immigrants who seek to come to the USA are lacking high school education. Some hold tertiary school level educational requisites and advanced degrees.. We need these immigrants in the country due to the capriciousness of racism and religious fanaticism..It is much more acceptable for an immigrant to create an American job in a small business than it is for an American citizen born here to do so. In making material jealousy acceptable in its practice, we have converted the USA into a ghetto country which enjoys marginalizing its academics until most leave the country in search of opportunity somewhere else. President Obama's decision is a result of the petty jealousy demonstrated by the American middle class. Some of the newly integrated and adopted Americans will succeed and become tax payers. We have developed into a country whose misery index is too high to allow our fellow home grown Americans to create small businesses. We use religion and racism to make excuses for not wanting to see Americans thrive. Let those who can't find jobs in America emigrate to other lands were they may live better. Let those from other countries come here. Why shouldn't they become educated here?Or do you propose that the statement by Emma Lazarus which is engraved on a plaque and attached to the Statue of Liberty be perceived as counterfeit? What other artifacts and relics of the nineteenth and twentieth century would you propose be tucked away into a dark corner and forgotten about.?
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  • Space I... Denis B 2012/06/16 10:33:31
  • BackWoo... Denis B 2012/06/16 12:33:07
    BackWoodsMike
    +1
    First of all you are all over the map with your posting..

    The question of this POLL is if what the current (and temporary) resident of our White House circumvented Congress by arbitrarily changing the Laws of the United States as they pertain to illegal Immigration.

    Search Obama's speeches on this subject, and you will find that in 2011, he explained that he can't change the immigration Laws without Congress.
    http://www.politico.com/news/...

    Obama, as usual, has used this as a political campaign move, and it, like every other political campaign move that he and his minions have made since January, is going to backfire on him.

    My Mother was brought to the United States from Italy as a child by her young Parents, and my Fathers Parents also came to the United States from Italy. I know the contribution of immigrants well.

    As far as the inscription at the base of Lady Liberty.. it's a nice poem, and if you took the time to read the article I posted for you, it goes in great detail proving that it is just a poem which has been taken out of context.
  • Space I... BackWoo... 2012/06/16 13:35:29
    Space Invader
    +1
    I bet BHO wishes he could take that one back...
  • BackWoo... Space I... 2012/06/16 14:39:27
    BackWoodsMike
    +1
    Obama has tripped over his crank so many times in the past four years, it's hard to keep track of how many times he has contradicted himself.
  • ManBearPig Denis B 2012/06/15 20:52:41
    ManBearPig
    +1
    when the statue of liberty was an icon in the early 1900s when we had mass immigration our gov't made it very easy for them to become a legal citizen... just wait in line stamp some papers and wala your a citizen

    it is much different today for the citizenship process than back then, and much more complex for many reasons
  • Sgt Major B 2012/06/15 17:46:34
    Legal
    Sgt Major B
    +3
    Sorry, the screen jumped; there's no way in Hell I'd call it legal. It's time for Congress to impeach, try, and remove this un-American usurper as well as the rest of his criminal regime. He has no respect for America, it's govovernment institutions or the will of it's people!

    Remember this treasonous act in November!!
  • Unusual... Sgt Maj... 2012/06/15 23:25:18
    UnusualSuspect
    Of course it's legal...it's called an Executive Order, which is why it's temporary (2 years).

    Even your boy Romney said today that "he has no problem with the policy, just the way it was implemented."

    It can be reversed by any future President. If Romney were to win (which is doubtful), he can overturn it half-way in 2 years.

    I'd say Obama is pretty confident he'll be re-elected in pushing it thru.
  • Sgt Maj... Unusual... 2012/06/16 01:50:42
    Sgt Major B
    +1
    His action is in direct contarvention of US law, and ignores the Congress. Kinda reminds you of the way Hitler started issuing decrees and ignoring the Reichstag. Brain-dead drones like you that are willing to placidly accept this type of travesty are going to be the demise of this country yet.
  • Space I... Unusual... 2012/06/16 10:33:41
  • Unusual... Unusual... 2012/06/16 22:18:43
    UnusualSuspect
    LOL...looks like Sgt Major B has blocked me because he can't take the truth.

    And conservatives are wondering why they're always on the losing end of things...LOLOL!!!
  • Space I... Unusual... 2012/06/23 16:59:14
    Space Invader
    we don't lose; Lib Marxist's say screw the law; we do what the Hell we want...
  • Freeranger 2012/06/15 17:30:38
    Illegal
    Freeranger
    +3
    Patently illegal. We only have to suffer him a few more months. Just hunker down and grit your teeth. What has been done can be undone.
  • whitewulf--the unruly mobster 2012/06/15 17:19:57
  • lm1b2 2012/06/15 16:47:37
    Illegal
    lm1b2
    +4
    Why doesn't the Federal; Court stop him,what right does he have to refuse to inforce our laws?
  • Contarded Chickenhawk Con S... 2012/06/15 16:42:11
    None of the above
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    +1
    LOL.. well that ties up the Hispanic vote...

    Call it a day Romney... Better luck in 2016.. .

    LMAO!
  • ray Contard... 2012/06/15 18:56:33
    ray
    +2
    You won't be laughing when you and your country is suffering under Obama.
  • Space I... ray 2012/06/15 19:33:55
    Space Invader
    oh he will be laughing; for about a month..and then the walls start caving in on their little blitzkrieg and they'll realize.."Dear God; what have we done?"
  • Contard... Space I... 2012/06/18 00:54:31
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    the sky is falling

    LMBO!
  • Murph 65 Contard... 2012/06/19 15:26:34
    Murph 65
    +1
    I have no idea what this posting was about, just saw you answered it, and since I'm doing a hit-and-run thingy here for a couple of minutes, wanted to say hello, and ask why are we not working? Have a good one, Kiddo.
  • Contard... Murph 65 2012/06/19 15:36:23
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    +1
    Well hello sweetie...

    Didn't you know I was on welfare sitting in my guberment house, eating a steak I bought with food stamps and using the internet phone I got from your tax dollars? LOL
  • Murph 65 Contard... 2012/06/19 15:51:58
    Murph 65
    +1
    Which is, of course, a very good reason for you to be where you are and me and my cane to be here in my house - I don't think you want to be introduced to the cane!!!! You're a goof ball, you know that, do you not? Keep SH alive and active for me today.
  • Contard... Murph 65 2012/06/19 15:54:20
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    +1
    You got it Murph... and take the grandkids out for some ice cream...

    I'm sure you can stop by a housing project and get some freebies... LOL

    Have a good day... Keep cool!
  • Murph 65 Contard... 2012/06/20 00:06:27
    Murph 65
    +1
    Gosh, haven't been out for ice cream in I don't know how long. Make my own fruit smoothies here and no ever wants to go out any longer. Housing project was all out of freebies. However, I did give the last of my income tax refund to someone while I was there...
  • Contard... Murph 65 2012/06/20 10:57:20
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    +1
    Awe that'a nice of you...
  • Murph 65 Contard... 2012/06/21 17:19:31
    Murph 65
    +2
    Your sarcasm is noted. Go get 'em today!
  • Contard... ray 2012/06/18 00:52:54
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    Well I won't be broke like I was during the last year of GWBush's administration either....

    Get a clue... our country suffers no matter who's in the WH...
  • ray Contard... 2012/06/18 02:42:27 (edited)
    ray
    +1
    Last year Obama was president. No one was broke with Bush. No businesses were going bankrupt and no one was getting laid off. Now it's the opposite. We were almost 500 billion dollars in debt when Bush left, but instead of decreasing it Obama purposely increased it to OVER 5 TRILLION dollars.

    With Bush my father could get over time whenever he wanted and my mother had a secure job. Now my father can never get overtime and my mother got laid off and even though she got her job back still has a big threat of getting laid off again.

    Any one that likes Obama is naive and any one that stands up for him is an idiot.

    http://www.chicagonow.com/you...

    http://www.who-sucks.com/peop...

    http://www.impeachobamacampai...
  • Contard... ray 2012/06/18 13:38:32
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    Look fool... I lost my job the last year your hero was in office. I went through ever cent of my savings...

    When Obama got elected I got hired... in fact this current job which is permanent is the 3 job I've been hired for... the first 2 were contract jobs.

    Obama may not be the best guy in the WH, but I don't hate him.

    And pal your facts are wrong... When your boy Shrub Bush left office the bill for 2 wars, Homeland Security and Medicare D came due(5-7 TRILLION).. and still is coming due...(about 750 BILLION added to Obama's 400 billion making it over 1 TRILLION a year).


    Again moron, it doesn't matter who's in office... BOTH parties SUCK.

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