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StarrGazerr 2008/11/11 20:51:13
Great.  The first step towards true political unity.
Terrible.  Lieberman's a traitor and can't be trusted.
Meaningless.  Obama doesn't make the decision anyway.
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Obama Supports Keeping Lieberman in Democratic Caucus

By Paul Kane
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 11, 2008; 11:57 AM

President-elect Barack Obama has endorsed keeping Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) in the Democratic caucus, suggesting to leadership that the two sides reach a compromise in the conflict over the former Democratic vice presidential nominee's future, sources said today.

In a phone conversation last week with Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.), Obama said that expulsion of Lieberman for his support of the Republican presidential ticket would send the wrong signal after Obama's promises to set partisanship aside, according to a Senate Democratic aide familiar with the conversation.

Obama "didn't get into the minutiae. It was more along the lines of, 'let's find a way to put the campaign behind us'," the aide said.

The call to Reid, which covered many other issues, came before the majority leader met with Lieberman last Thursday to discuss Lieberman's future in the Democratic caucus. Lieberman is one of two independents who caucus, and generally vote, with the Democrats.

Aides to Obama and Reid declined comment on the specifics of the conversation between the two party leaders. Obama's camp insisted the president-elect did not make any specific suggestions about how to resolve the situation, but did say that Obama wants Lieberman to remain with the Democrats.

"President-elect Obama looks forward to working with anyone to move the country forward," Obama transition spokesperson Stephanie Cutter said in a statement issued today. "We'd be happy to have Sen. Lieberman caucus with the Democrats. We don't hold any grudges."

Lieberman faces a crucial Nov. 18 meeting of Senate Democrats at which he is expected to plead his case for retaining the chairmanship of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, which has wide oversight of the executive branch. Many Democrats have privately suggested that Lieberman should surrender the post even if that risks him crossing the aisle to caucus with Republicans, in part because Democrats padded their majority in the Senate by gaining at least six seats in last week's election.

Some liberal activists have pushed to have Lieberman expelled from the caucus by stripping him of all his committee assignments, particularly after his speech on behalf of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) at the Republican National Convention. Lieberman called Obama "an eloquent young man" who was not prepared to be president.

Reid hinted Sunday that Democrats could offer Lieberman an alternative to his current chairmanship.

"The caucus has a decision to make and they're going to make it...whether we're going to say, 'OK, we've had enough of you, Joe, go vote with the Republicans' or whether we're going to try to work something out with Joe Lieberman," Reid said Sunday on CNN's "Inside Edition."

After meeting with Reid Thursday, Lieberman told reporters that with the election over, the country "must now unite.

"That is exactly what I intend to do with my colleagues here in the Senate in support of our new president and those are the standards I will use when considering the options that I have before me," he said.

A possible alternative would be to give Lieberman the chairmanship of the Small Business Committee, which has one of the lowest profiles on Capitol Hill. Its current chairman, Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.), is set to move into a more prestigious chairmanship. Other senior members of the Small Business panel already chair more powerful committees, which would allow Lieberman to become chair if he is removed from his current post.

While that chairmanship would be a step down for Lieberman, he still would receive an annual budget that would allow him to maintain additional staff and would continue to participate in important meetings, such as the weekly gathering of committee chairmen hosted by Reid.

Lieberman's home-state colleague, Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.), suggested last week that Obama could take the higher ground by helping to resolve the dispute. "He's talked about reconciliation, healing, bringing people together. I don't think he'd necessarily want to spend the first month of this president-elect period, this transition period, talking about a Senate seat," Dodd, told Connecticut reporters Friday. Dodd has not spoken directly with Obama about the issue.

Obama and Vice-President-elect Joseph Biden, who are departing the Senate and will not be part of the 111th Congress, will not have votes in the Democratic caucus over Lieberman's future.

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  • Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~ 2008/11/13 00:45:31
    Great. The first step towards true political unity.
    Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~
    +5
    As LBJ famously said of J. Edgar Hoover, "I'd rather have him inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in."

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  • Feck Sodahed 2008/11/11 21:01:57
    Terrible. Lieberman's a traitor and can't be trusted.
    Feck Sodahed
    +4
    Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.

    Personally I think Joe Lieberman is a douche nozzle and should be pushed aside with John McCain.
  • StarrGa... Feck So... 2008/11/11 21:40:03
    StarrGazerr
    +1
    See, Lieberman aside, I don't think John McCain should be pushed aside. He's a good man and is respected by both sides in the Senate. If he gets past "campaign mode" and can return to his role in the Senate he would be an asset to both parties.
  • Feck So... StarrGa... 2008/11/11 21:47:14
    Feck Sodahed
    +2
    I don't agree StarrGazer. I think the only good it would serve in keeping him would be to fan the flames and keep his supporters from getting their undies in a wad.
  • StarrGa... Feck So... 2008/11/11 22:05:48
    StarrGazerr
    +2
    Maybe. But on the other hand, if John McCain can work with Barack Obama to try to improve our country, maybe John McCain's supporters will try it, too. At least some of them.
  • Feck So... StarrGa... 2008/11/11 22:21:25
    Feck Sodahed
    +2
    I agree. It certainly could work...for some anyway.
  • DJ*~ StarrGa... 2008/11/11 23:26:30
    DJ*~
    Sen. McCain's slogan is "Country First". I think he will demonstrate that philosophy
  • strawberry StarrGa... 2008/11/12 04:14:08
    strawberry
    What are Lieberman's motives? He shows no true loyalty to any of Congress. He had a personal motive for backing John McCain. Get rid of him!
  • ! StarrGa... 2008/11/12 20:32:21
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    Star:

    I think you are correct on McCain and as far as "Holy Joe" goes, he is a Senator who does what HE thinks is best not what the Party subscribes to. I give him all the credit in the world for that stance.He would say that he has "chutzpah".

    I think Obama may have a problem with Reid and Pelosi trying to run the show. If that is the case look for Rahm Emmanuel to step on them good.

    RWD
  • StarrGa... ! 2008/11/12 21:59:37
    StarrGazerr
    A Senator who does what he thinks is best is to be respected as a Senator and if "what he thinks is best" pleases his constituency then he will be around for a long time. But being a good Senator is not the same thing as being a good member of the Democratic (or Republican) Caucus. Someone like Lieberman truly is best suited to be an Independent, since at various times he does manage to piss off both parties. However, since he is historically a Democrat and has voted with the Democrats since being elected as an Independent I think Obama's gesture, overall, is a good thing.
  • ! StarrGa... 2008/11/12 22:18:21
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    +1
    Star:

    Obama's gesture is purely politically motivated. He needs a Dem vote for the Senate and the Homeland security chairmanship is cheap price to pay.
    As I said, the man thinks and speaks what he thinks not what the party says to say. Yes, he pisses off both sides and I find that refreshing in a D.C. politician or any politician for that matter. Tell me, could you see Dick Durbin ever doing what Joe Lieberman does (and I don't mean going to temple)? Oh, I think it imporant to say after the vote in the last election that Obama received, I am not pro-Lieberman because I am a Democrat and I am also not a Jew. I also usually say what I think not what may be popular. Star, I think that is one reason we get along as well as we do! You are also in someways that way!

    RWD
  • StarrGa... ! 2008/11/13 02:38:35
    StarrGazerr
    LOL I try my best.....

    The thing we shouldn't overlook is that Obama doesn't really have control of the situation anyway. He can express what he thinks, and if I were a Democratic congressman I would certainly pay attention, but the one who really controls the situation, sadly enough, is Harry Reid. My guess is he wouldn't ignore what Obama has to say but also wants to keep his own power, so it might just wind up that they'll take Homeland Security away from Joe but give him some other appointment that will give him a chance to save face and work his way back into the good graces of the "Majority"

    (And RWD - it's one reason but not the only one.

    security joe appointment chance save work graces majority rwd reason




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  • ! StarrGa... 2008/11/13 04:32:11
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    Star:

    See you are RIGHT some of the time ;-)

    RWD
  • Ali ~ I... Feck So... 2008/11/13 00:56:07
    Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~
    +1
    See my post above about LBJ's sentiments on keeping your enemies closer.
  • The Sane One 2008/11/11 21:00:40
    Meaningless. Obama doesn't make the decision anyway.
    The Sane One
    +2
    While Lieberman may still be a MEMBER of the Democratic Caucus, chances are VERY strong that he'll be stripped of being its Chair-- and he's probably going to be reassigned to very minor roles on the various committees-- that is, of course, providing that Smilin' Joe doesn't have tons of dirt on Pelosi and Reid.

    Since IMHO Pelosi and Reid are more than a little corrupt, chances are strong he's retain a fair amount of power.
  • strawberry The San... 2008/11/12 04:16:21
    strawberry
    Does Pelosi have to run again or can Obama get rid of her? I am starting to question some of Barack Obama's choices.
  • StarrGa... strawberry 2008/11/12 04:51:48
    StarrGazerr
    She does have to run again, and Obama has no say in it. It takes a majority vote of the House of Representatives. When the new Congress convenes (I think on January 5), the first order of business is to elect a Speaker. To the best of my knowledge there has never (at least not in the past 100 years at least) been a sitting Speaker who sought re-election as Speaker and didn't get it.
  • ! StarrGa... 2008/11/12 20:34:51
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    Star:

    You do know that Emmanuel wnated that job this time around but he is out of the running. Who else could the Dems put up to replace Pelosi? I think she is in and I think she is dangerous.
    To say however that the President of the party in power has no say in who is chosen is a bit of a stretch.

    RWD
  • Mollydolly 2008/11/11 20:59:09
    Great. The first step towards true political unity.
    Mollydolly
    +2
    I just want us all to not sabotage eachother. I think Lieberman's not such a bad guy.
  • StarrGa... Mollydolly 2008/11/11 21:42:50
    StarrGazerr
    +2
    Agreed. There are some policy differences, of course but he's an intelligent man with a lot to offer.

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