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Obama stimulus funded 'guns-to-drug-lords' plan: Spending bill gave $10 million of taxpayers' funding to it. How many other evil things did Obama do using taxpayer money? Is it time for an independent investigation and PROSECUTION of Obama?

tncdel 2011/07/09 16:46:34

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Obama stimulus funded 'guns-to-drug-lords' plan: Spending bill gave $10 million of taxpayers' funding to it. How many other evil things did Obama do using taxpayer money? Is it time for an independent investigation and PROSECUTION of Obama?
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Obama stimulus funded 'guns-to-drug-lords' plan

Spending bill gave $10 million of taxpayers' funding to effort


By Michael Carl
© 2011 WND

Just a day afterU.S. Rep. Allen West, R-Fla., called for Attorney General Eric Holder's removal, alleging a White House connection to the "Project Gunrunner" that allowed weapons to be delivered to Mexican drug lords, confirmation has come that the program originated at the highest levels of the Obama administration.

The link is the $10 million in taxpayer dollars designated to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives for Project Gunrunner in Obama's 2009 American Reinvestment and Recovery Act, otherwise known as the Stimulus Bill.

Section 5, Division A, Title II, under the heading of "Office of Justice Programs,"says the money is set aside for border regions.

For an additional amount for 'State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance,' $40,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2014, for competitive grants to provide assistance and equipment to local law enforcement along the Southern border and in High-Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas to combat criminal narcotics activity stemming from the Southern border, of which $10,000,000 shall be transferred to 'Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Salaries and Expenses' for the"We can say there's one thing that was stimulated by the stimulus bill and that was the Mexican undertaker business," Pratt said. "Mexican authorities say that 150 people were murdered using these guns."


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Gun Owners of America President Larry Pratt believes stimulus money was given to a drug dealer to buy guns.

"Ten million dollars, and one of the ways they were spending it was a paid FBI informant who was a drug dealer they had flipped. So he was buying lots of guns with that stimulus money,"Pratt said.

Pratt said that the stimulus bill enhanced one industry in particular.

Pratt said that the gun buyer involved was the subject of what he calls an "aspect of tragic comedy."

"This FBI informant was being surveilled by the ATF that was running the Fast and Furious Operation and they had no idea that he was an FBI informant," Pratt observed.

"But obviously they didn't need to be informed because they didn't care. They just wanted the guns to walk," he stated.

Today, Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said he would support the call for a special prosecutor if members of Congress investigating the issue believe that is the best solution.

Appearing on the Steve Gill show,he said, "The point of our inquiry is to find out who really signed off on this operation. Who is the one who said 'yeah, this is a good thing to do.' It might have sounded like a good idea, but it ended up with the murder of Mr. Terry, a border control agent, and two of the guns were found at the scene of that murder."

A report in the San Francisco Chronicle says that FBI informants were connected to theATF's Project Gunrunner.

Firearms law analyst and writer David Codrea believes that even if there is evidence to prove that known criminals used taxpayer money to get guns to take to Mexico, nothing is likely to be done with the evidence.

"If left to Holder's Justice Department, nothing, because it shows this had to be top-level DoJ-authorized," Codrea explained.

Reports say other federal agencies have also been drawn into the operation. The DEA, FBI and upper-level DOJ officers, including the U. S. Attorney's office in Phoenix, have been named.

Attorney General Holder's office has not responded to WND's request for comment.

Codrea believes that it's possible that ATF Acting Director Kenneth Melson's office was bypassed in decision-making about the operation.

"It's absolutely possible and may even be probable that they bypassed Melson in the operation. However, that does not excuse him from having no control of his agency," Codrea said.

"But this kind of thing cannot take place in your agency unless you have unless you have people ... who are absolutely flat-out lying to you," he said.

Pratt also believes that some of the guns were purchased by the Mexican cartels directly from federal agents.

"One of the founders of the cartel, one of their top 14 directors if you will, a guy whose nickname is El Mamito, has said that he was buying guns directly from the federal government," Pratt explained.

Jesus Rejon Aguilar, nicknamed El Mamito or "Pretty Boy," he third highest ranking member of the drug gang Los Zetas, was captured Monday by Mexican authorities.

Pratt said he believes for the guns to go across at a designated location, there had to be coordination between several federal law enforcement agencies.

"There had to be some kind of a deal with the Border Patrol. ... We know that in that '09 meeting that set-up Fast and Furious, those four or five agencies were all part of the deal," Pratt said.

Pratt said that it's not likely that many of the representatives who voted for the stimulus package were aware that money was allocated for Project Gunrunner.

"Anyone who voted for the stimulus bill has another reason to regret their vote. Obviously they didn't read the bill," Pratt asserted. "They don't read most of the bills up there at all."

Pratt illustrated his comment by citing former Speaker Nancy Pelosi's comment about thehealth care bill:"But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of controversy."

Several border state representatives contacted about the stimulus package and its allocation of $10 million for Project Gunrunner have not returned WND's calls.

Pratt also said that he's supportive of West's call for the removal of Holder and for a special prosecutor to be appointed.

"This is something that is very appropriate. While Rep. Issawas very correct in his choice of words,he said he didn't think Attorney General Eric Holder told the truth," Pratt said. "He could have said it more sharply, that he thinks Eric Holder is a liar, but it comes out the same in the wash."

Codrea believes that the pressure felt by the administration may be the leverage needed for the Justice Department or the White House to force Melson to resign.

"I think they were hoping they could have him quietly transferred out but he saw what was going on and he has to understand which way the wind blows and he has things on higher ups and they want him to keep quiet," Codrea commented.

"It looks like [Melson] decided that going quietly is not in his best interest. What was in his best interest is to lawyer up and to go and talk to the congressional oversight committee," he said.

Codrea and Pratt believe that the issue is going to get bigger as more details become public. Pratt believes that if Issa's committee continues its work, the entire scenario may rise to the level of Watergate.

"Just like Watergate became the only thing the Richard Nixon administration could think about, I think 'Fast and Furious' is coming to the point where it's going to be an all consuming issue," Pratt said.

"It's going to take the Obama regime off their stride and they're going to have to be playing defense."



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  • SharonJohnson 2011/07/09 19:53:06
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    SharonJohnson
    +7
    OBama has done everything wrong and nothing right. OBama has shred the constitution and done whatever he wants with no consequences. HE has blood on his hands and should be IMPEACHED. obama wrong obama shred constitution consequences blood hands impeached

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  • Ken 2011/07/15 04:54:36
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    Ken
    and there have been plenty of them.
  • Mr.Hoodz the Truth Troll 2011/07/11 02:45:15
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
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  • Mater01 2011/07/10 12:58:27
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
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    +1
    DO YOU HAVE THREE YEARS OF YOUR TIME TO HEAR MY REASONS WHY?
  • 2012 rick 2011/07/10 10:47:16
  • D Hanes 2011/07/10 04:40:42
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    D Hanes
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    It is way past time that Obama was sent to jail!
  • jackolantyrn356 2011/07/10 03:32:42
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    jackolantyrn356
    +2
    Obama has several Hundred felonies on his head in Amerifca. Since he has more than the two names he is known by in America we may have have crimes he may be wanted for in other countries. (DNC needs questioning here.) The crimes of This assumed President need to be individualized and not grouped together.
  • Rore73 2011/07/10 00:50:02
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    Rore73
    +2
    It is way past time to proscecute Obama, for this a other screw ups!
  • Rockies Man 2011/07/09 23:40:21
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    Rockies Man
    +2
    Obama needs to be impeached and the Republican Party needs to grow some balls and start this process. This was no accident, it was another deliberate attempt by the Obama Fascists to destroy the United States.
  • Bonboyl 2011/07/09 22:24:55
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    Bonboyl
    +2
    Until we get Obama and his regime out of office, we are all screwed. It gets worse every day.
  • Hamm0ckjames 2011/07/09 21:57:58
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    Hamm0ckjames
    +2
    I think obama is striving to build a list of First's.
    I think he should be the First US President executed for Treason.
    Now that would be a long remembered First obama,,,,,
  • Dogfather 2011/07/09 21:47:12 (edited)
    NO [tell us why not].
    Dogfather
    +3
    Once again people forget Republican Ronald Reagan, Oliver North and the Guns For Drugs deal, better known as the Iran/Contra Scandal.
  • iriemon203 2011/07/09 21:14:54
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    iriemon203
    +4
    Of course Holder knew about it, as did obummer. The whole idea of it was to further their agenda to remove guns from U.S. citizens. They know there is a rebellion coming, and they want to have all the weapons.
  • RTHTGakaRoland 2011/07/09 21:05:16
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    RTHTGakaRoland
    +3


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  • SharonJohnson 2011/07/09 19:53:06
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    SharonJohnson
    +7
    OBama has done everything wrong and nothing right. OBama has shred the constitution and done whatever he wants with no consequences. HE has blood on his hands and should be IMPEACHED. obama wrong obama shred constitution consequences blood hands impeached
  • Cheetah 2011/07/09 19:38:28
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    Cheetah
    +6
    And then imprisoned for High Teason. Yes folks that right he is truly an evil person and a murderer. No way this was Bush's fault it's on Obama's watch he is responsible no matter how many lie's he will tell to back peddle his way out. He does not deserve to hold the office of President. The president of the USA is a thief a liar and a murderer.
  • tncdel Cheetah 2011/07/09 20:57:32
    tncdel
    +6
    Anyone who files a lawsuit against those he was supposed to defend from illegal alien invasion doesn't deserve the title of "President."
  • Cheetah tncdel 2011/07/09 21:00:52
    Cheetah
    +5
    Or anything else
  • Leinad 2011/07/09 18:36:59
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    Leinad
    +5
    FAST and FURIOUS, (subversion of our RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS via confiscation of the 2nd by FRAUD), VOTER FRAUD/VOTER INTIMADATION, acorn and soros irregularities in the monies afforded to obama campaign, foreign INVESTMENTS via campaign contributions, and disregard of the constitutional process, not taking bills ad ideas by way of congress, subverting the SUPREME COURT and the LAWS OF THE CONSTITUTION....and that is only a a FEW MENTIONED, but more to come....

    HE IS A con-artist with the race merchants hand book to WHITIES GUILT and REPARATIONS in the name of RACIAL JUSTICE, but it really is about HATE FOR WESTERN WHITIE'S and PROPAGATING the ISLAMIC COMMIE ALLIANCE'S PLAN, for taking DOWN and PILLAGING all FREE MARKET SOCIETIES, and furthering the expansion of either TOTALITARIAN ideologies...
  • ed 2011/07/09 17:57:34
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    ed
    +6
    yes and anyone else found to be involved in not only this one fast and furious but also operation castaway that was uncovered in Florida
  • Tasine 2011/07/09 17:52:26
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    Tasine
    +6
    Our government forcibly takes our money, more and more and more, and the purpose for that is that the money is to be used for management of our nation. That once was maintaining a military and protecting us for foreign entities, then was added infrastructure. There may be one or two other things they were directed to do. I'm too lazy to look it up again, but it is quite limited.

    Things that were NOT directed to be done consist of : grants, loans, environment, education, welfare, senior care, control of communication, policing the world, turning our money over the the FEDS, championing the United Nations, protection of wildlife, stimulus programs, census taking, control of commerce, food control, pharmaceutical control, health issues, and additional waste of money that are too numerous to bother with.

    All these things have been added to the feds' responsibilities - rather, they have confiscated these issues to gain more control and power - NOT to make things better for the people who employ them. It's couched in those terms, but it is a lie that more and more are coming to see.

    Obama has taken it further than any other thief in government has done. He defies SCOTUS, he defies lower court findings, he makes end runs around Congress as though they don't count, he takes...


    Our government forcibly takes our money, more and more and more, and the purpose for that is that the money is to be used for management of our nation. That once was maintaining a military and protecting us for foreign entities, then was added infrastructure. There may be one or two other things they were directed to do. I'm too lazy to look it up again, but it is quite limited.

    Things that were NOT directed to be done consist of : grants, loans, environment, education, welfare, senior care, control of communication, policing the world, turning our money over the the FEDS, championing the United Nations, protection of wildlife, stimulus programs, census taking, control of commerce, food control, pharmaceutical control, health issues, and additional waste of money that are too numerous to bother with.

    All these things have been added to the feds' responsibilities - rather, they have confiscated these issues to gain more control and power - NOT to make things better for the people who employ them. It's couched in those terms, but it is a lie that more and more are coming to see.

    Obama has taken it further than any other thief in government has done. He defies SCOTUS, he defies lower court findings, he makes end runs around Congress as though they don't count, he takes our money and gives it away to crimiinals and his cronies, he stole our health care system in order to gain further control with his inane Obamacare, he is secretive about the things we are entitled to KNOW. When I hire a person and ask to see his qualifications, I either see them or I don't hire him. I would think this could be done re the US Presidency as well. He dislikes America and Americans. He dislikes our military of which he is supposedly the CINC, your laugh for the day. Is this how a decent military is lead?!
    Killing our economy may turn out to be the worst crime he has willfully committed.

    I won't use up more time now, but there are MANY reasons to prosecute and I don't understand why it isn't being done.
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  • banjo1234 2011/07/09 17:51:04
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    banjo1234
    +7
    obama has declared war against America citizens
  • Bonboyl banjo1234 2011/07/09 22:29:18
    Bonboyl
    +2
    He really is our wose enemy.
  • banjo1234 Bonboyl 2011/07/10 00:36:19
    banjo1234
    +2
    As are his supporters
  • Bonboyl banjo1234 2011/07/10 01:40:32
    Bonboyl
    +2
    I don't know what the guy has to do to prove to his supporters that he is not on their side. Hope they wake up before election time.
  • banjo1234 Bonboyl 2011/07/10 06:55:03
    banjo1234
    Not going to happen, they are to far gone. The people that support obama, are no different than the people that supported hitler
  • Bonboyl banjo1234 2011/07/10 15:04:14
    Bonboyl
    +1
    It seems that way. Don't know what the appeal is, but they don't seem to care that he is doing everything he can do to destroy America. I honestly think he wants a civil war.
  • banjo1234 Bonboyl 2011/07/10 16:31:11
    banjo1234
    I want a peaceful divorce, but will do a Civil War if it means the progressives will be gone
  • Bonboyl banjo1234 2011/07/10 18:36:13
    Bonboyl
    +1
    Me too, but I'm not sure "peaceful" anything will work. They don't seem to listen to the people. Maybe we will have to make enough noise that they can't ignore us any longer. It seems to me like Obama is just doing illegal things just to see how far he can push us. That makes me believe that he wants the people to start a civil war. Hope I'm wrong, but everytime he gets away with an impeachable act, the next one is even bigger and better.
  • banjo1234 Bonboyl 2011/07/10 18:37:38
    banjo1234
    +1
    And he has the fear of race riots if he is impeached to paralyze the nation from removing him from office, and I can see him instigating these race riots
  • Bonboyl banjo1234 2011/07/10 18:40:32
    Bonboyl
    +1
    Why not? He might really like that - prove his point that it's us that are the racists.
  • banjo1234 Bonboyl 2011/07/10 18:42:44
    banjo1234
    +1
    And yet his past history proves it is obama who is quite the racist
  • Bonboyl banjo1234 2011/07/10 19:03:18
    Bonboyl
    +1
    Yep, but he isn't going to admit it. He has to make us look like the racists. I will be so glad when his butt is gone.
  • banjo1234 Bonboyl 2011/07/10 19:13:59
    banjo1234
    +1
    As will I
  • DeeB 2011/07/09 17:51:05
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    DeeB
    +6
    They all should hang for that and all the lies afterwards. When are the people going to wise up and demand it? I am tired of waiting!
  • zbacku 2011/07/09 17:13:26
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    zbacku
    +6
    WOW. CNN actually has reported on this most outrageous action by Obama's administration. Look at Holder squirm. This action by Obama's TOP men makes Watergate look like a walk in the park.

    If this doesn't take down Obama, NOTHING will.

    Thank you tncdel for putting this together.
  • zbacku zbacku 2011/07/09 20:07:44
    zbacku
    +3
    ATTENTION!! This just in. Probably these people were killed by the guns bought with our TAX money, funded by Obama.

    MEXICO CITY — Battles between the vicious Zetas gang and other drug cartels killed more than 40 people in a 24-hour span, a government official said Saturday.
    At least 20 people were killed when gunmen opened fire in a bar late Friday in the northern city of Monterrey, where the gang is fighting its former ally, the Gulf Cartel, said federal security spokesman Alejandro Poire.
    Eleven bodies shot with high-powered rifles were found earlier Friday, piled near a water well on the outskirts of Mexico City, where the gang is fighting the Knights Templar, Poire said. That is an offshoot of the La Familia gang that has terrorized its home state of Michoacan.


    Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/sto...
  • patriot 2011/07/09 16:56:15
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    patriot
    +6
    If he didn't know then that is as bad as if he did know. Holder should be out yesterday. How corrupt.
  • mal 2011/07/09 16:54:15
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    mal
    +6
    holder is a disgrace to this nation as is the head scumbag,obama. Vote these dirtballs out and save our nation and freedom in 2012...
  • bob'45 2011/07/09 16:53:51
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    bob'45
    +7
    Obama, and his entire regime, should be prosecuted. He, and his lying attorney general, have denied any knowledge of the operation. I certainly hope that the congressional investigation will lead to their demise. attorney general denied operation hope congressional investigation lead demise holder and operation gunrunner cartoons
  • tncdel 2011/07/09 16:48:39
    YES, I think Obama should be prosecuted for any and all crimes [explain why].
    tncdel

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