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Obama Says America Needs Soul Searching on Gun Violence: Will Obama Support Gun Control Before the Election?

Heisenberg 2012/08/06 23:00:00
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REUTERS.COM reports:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama said on Monday that mass killings like the weekend shooting rampage at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin were happening with too much regularity and should prompt soul searching by all Americans, but he stopped short of calling for new gun-control laws.
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  • zbacku 2012/08/07 01:56:49
    No
    zbacku
    +15
    He's a coward. He will wait until after the Election. His first agenda is to give ILLEGALS the right to vote.

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  • Haley Red Branch 2012/08/07 04:02:59 (edited)
    Haley
    +2
    I don't like any guns, I think they make the world a less safe place. But I have no problem with ppl owning guns if they want them. I just want restrictions on semi-automatics which appear to be the weapon of choice for mass murderers.

    Maybe that is the issue: Exisiting laws are not currently enforced. But then that needs to be done. Something has to change because what is occurring in the usa is not ok.I'd also like to see more restrictions on semi-automatic weapons because their main purpose is to kill scores of ppl
  • Red Branch Haley 2012/08/07 04:30:01
    Red Branch
    Do you know what a semi-automatic weapon is?
  • Haley Red Branch 2012/08/07 05:56:20
    Haley
    +1
    sem-automatics automatically reload which makes it more effective to kill groups of ppl
  • Red Branch Haley 2012/08/07 04:09:47
    Red Branch
    +1
    Lets look at things this way:
    I see you are from Illinois and that is great. Chicago has between 10 and 25 people shot and killed every weekend and none by so called assault rifles.

    Dozens of people are killed everyday in South Africa.
    The Islamic terr govt of the Sudan has killed 3 million of its own citizens since it seized power in 1989. The Islamic terr govt has driven about 4.5 million people from their homes since 1989 and this does not even begin to account for the tens of thousands of rapes and other violence.

    Drummerboy has posted pictures of some gun control experts and after they banned and confiscated firearms:
    Hitler - 10 million Germans, 6 million Jews, 7 million others.
    Castro - a number does not readily come to mind but it was tens of thousands.
    Kaddaffi - a number does not readily come to mind.
    Stalin - 50 million
    Idi Amin - 3 million, some of which he ate.
    Mao - 70 million
    Pot Pol - 4 million, mostly by starvation
    Il Jung - 4 million minimum
  • Haley Red Branch 2012/08/07 05:59:40 (edited)
    Haley
    +1
    Gang problems are what is causing the spike of murders in chicago. There are many other problems that won't be solved by gun control, but i think limiting semi-automatic weapons and strengthening gun laws or at least better enforcing will decrease the number of mass shootings in the usa. We have a problem.

    And how were any of those dictators known to be gun control experts? I'm not saying we should confiscate firearms just that the selling of semi-automatics should be more tightly controlled.
  • firelooker Haley 2012/08/07 03:27:40
    firelooker
    +1
    Drunk drivers kill lot's of people let's ban cars.
  • Haley firelooker 2012/08/07 03:30:40
    Haley
    +1
    This is a silly argument.
    1. I'm not saying let's ban guns. I'm saying let's have reasonable regulations. Don't we have driver's licenses to try to make the roads safer?
    2. Cars have a purpose beyond slaughtering a group of people. Some guns, pistols and rifles, I can see have uses like hunting and self-defense, but what else do you use an assault rifle for but to kill a room full of people?
  • ray Haley 2012/08/07 03:38:31
    ray
    No massacres have been by an assault rifle. In fact, Switzerland gives out free assault rifles and trains them and they have the lowest crime rates.
  • firelooker Haley 2012/08/07 03:43:08 (edited)
    firelooker
    +2
    What's an assault rifle? My 30-06 was originally used by the military to kill people does that make it an assault weapon?. Just for the record it doesn't matter whether it's a hunting rifle or a semi auto military look alike they both are covered under the seond amendment and both can be and are used for hunting and killing people.
  • Red Branch Haley 2012/08/07 04:07:13
    Red Branch
    There is no such thing as an assault rifle; it is a legal fiction.

    The US Forces uses a 5.56 NATO round and that translates into a .223 civilian round which is a nice rifle for deer hunting.

    Russia and other countries use AK-47 with a 7.62 x 39 and that translates into a .308 civilian round which would be fine for moose hunting.
  • InoYama... firelooker 2012/08/07 21:42:31
    InoYamanaka
    Uh...again. Why is "take away cars" used in the metaphors instead of "alcohol". I don't get it.
  • Red Branch Haley 2012/08/07 03:33:50
    Red Branch
    +1
    There are 22,000 gun laws on the books right now and most of them are not rational.
  • firelooker Red Branch 2012/08/07 03:48:15
    firelooker
    +1
    That's right dm strange we have more laws and guns are more difficult to get than in the fifties yet there are more crime committed w/ guuns now than then so gun control laws really work good don't they? Also the pople in Iran and fghanistan and all those mid eastern countries wer making their own rifles by hand before they got hold of Russian AK 47's. Any kid in metal working shop can make themselves a gun if they want to.
  • S* Haley 2012/08/08 06:23:37
    S*
    +1
    I am sorry you are being assaulted by the pro gun lobby. I am a gun owner, I believe in gun ownership, but I agree with you, there should be some limits placed upon ownership. Those 22,000 laws are not doing the job, we need a plan. In many states, there are no safeguards or background checks on people who buy guns.
  • Haley S* 2012/08/08 06:26:34
    Haley
    thanks. It's just I don't understand how people could see all the violence and believe that we have too much gun control. Nobody, except very few fringe people, want to revoke the 2nd amendment. I think most people want to see more rational gun control laws
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/08/07 02:02:50
  • Daniel jackola... 2012/08/07 06:49:47
  • sean 2012/08/07 02:00:25
    No
    sean
    +6
    not before the election..the day of it, read my other posts, where i said their will be more killings of people, leding up to a UN vote, and obama signing on to it, the greater question is what does the government have planned..that would make it easier for them if your, UNARMED ! and please, this is not something the dem. just came up with they both did..rep. and dem. alike.
  • firelooker sean 2012/08/07 03:36:03
    firelooker
    +1
    i agree, the politicians on both sides of the aisle want more power. and if gun control will give it to them then that's what they'll do, if we let them.
  • sean firelooker 2012/08/07 04:15:08
    sean
    Eyewitness: 4 Man Team Behind Sikh Temple Shooting


    Paul Joseph Watson
    Infowars.com
    Sunday, August 5, 2012
    UPDATE: A separate source has corroborated the other eyewitness claim – a family member whose parents were victims of the shooting said his parents told him there were “multiple shooters” involved in a “coordinated” attack.
  • firelooker sean 2012/08/07 04:27:44
    firelooker
    And your point?
  • sean firelooker 2012/08/07 15:01:53
    sean
    the colorado shooting had more then 1 person also..according to the witnesses, their was 1 other shooter, this is not random, or a copycat, this is by design, i said after the colorado shooting their would be more, to have people fearful, to call for a ban on weapons, will their be even more killings, by so called copycats, until the government gets you where they want you, i would guess, their will be..but the bigger question is, why do they want us all..unarmed ?
  • zbacku 2012/08/07 01:56:49
    No
    zbacku
    +15
    He's a coward. He will wait until after the Election. His first agenda is to give ILLEGALS the right to vote.
  • S* zbacku 2012/08/07 07:28:19
    S*
    +1
    it is easy to say something, but to have some substance is way different. Why would you suggest this? You have no links. It is because you have no substance.
  • SW zbacku 2012/08/07 15:47:56
    SW
    +1
    Um... no it's not. It's the OTHER side's agenda to suppress LEGAL voters (unless they're white Christian males).
  • Jkirk3279 SW 2012/08/08 05:42:40
    Jkirk3279
    +1
    I voted in the Primary Tuesday. And they didn't WANT my voter ID card.

    They wanted my Driver's License. Look I have no problem if Congress wants to make a combined SS Card with photo ID. Mail them out to everybody.

    But this creeping assault on the right to vote WILL stop. The only question will be, if the GOP is still standing when the fight is over.
  • Sherloc... zbacku 2012/08/07 21:18:53
  • FairLady zbacku 2012/08/08 04:19:34
    FairLady
    +1
    I agree. It's very correct.
  • Jkirk3279 zbacku 2012/08/08 05:40:23
    Jkirk3279
    +1
    Dear God. You're stupid.

    Illegals CAN'T vote. They would have to become Citizens, and that takes SEVEN YEARS.
  • charles... zbacku 2012/08/08 13:20:36
    charles nelson
    Coward, how about Cowards, these little dweebs (nice word) walking into public places with arsenals and if you could have a lucid conversation with them you would probably have gotten a HELL NO, you can't have my guns. Do you care about the innocents. Got any Idea's.
  • john Kills 2012/08/07 01:47:03
    Yes
    john Kills
    +6
    I will ignore, purposely disobey any restrictive gun law. It is our duty to do so.
  • zlazyks john Kills 2012/08/07 02:06:51
    zlazyks
    +3
    agreed
  • sean john Kills 2012/08/07 04:22:48
    sean
    right on john..i read where these drones..can fly at mach 20, see through buildings, the ground, and see at night..i do agree with you 100%, but its not going to be easy, this will come into effect, and when it does my guess, first a payment for all firearms, then a fine of whoever has firearms, still, then a search for firearms, by the police first i would think, then when most of the firearms are collected..the real reason for all this will be known..and then the people who turned them in will wish they..
  • john Kills sean 2012/08/07 11:28:13
    john Kills
    I'll be dead by that time unless enough people stand up with me and even then I may still be dead but, I will die with a gun in my hand.
  • SW sean 2012/08/07 15:50:02
    SW
    When that happens it will come wrapped in the flag with a big cross sticking out of it and it will be handed to you by the party that gave us the Drug War, the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, torture and the last 2 major wars.
  • sean SW 2012/08/08 01:31:33
    sean
    don't forget NDAA, a war in libya under the NATO flag, ( a war in syria where we are supplying the weapons ) fast and furious..because the mexican government was doing too good of a job, stopping the drug trade..30,000 armed drones, miltary and fema interment camps..its not just 1 party..its both parties..gitmo, still open..rendition still going on, iraq ,obama wanted to leave all the troops their, till the iraqis said they would not give us freedom from war crimes, he left 6,000 in iraq, moved 13,500 to kuwait and the rest to afganistan..its all of them, bush and obama, and romney if elected.
  • Jkirk3279 sean 2012/08/08 05:54:29
    Jkirk3279
    Noooo.... The Timeline for withdrawl from Iraq was set.

    BUSH wanted to build fifty Military Bases, and stay forever. The Iraquis said NO.

    You're being defeated by the "false equivalency" argument.

    Imagine this. You see a kid at school, being bullied.

    Do you a) report the bully, and get him kicked out?

    Or b) blame both the bully and the victim ?

    Because the conspiracy websites you're been reading are blaming the victim. If you want to dip into that poisoned well, you need to prepare yourself.

    Be ready to spend fifteen minutes researching for every minute reading.

    DON'T continue without researching. Learn to use Google. Learn to phrase questions in a way that breaks down the subject, and use Snopes.com as a quick shortcut.

    The Mexican Government doing "too good a job" stopping the drug trade? They're getting their ass handed to them !

    Their elected officials get gunned down in the street or kidnapped.

    FEMA Internment Camps?

    You may be too far gone already.

    Gitmo still open? Obama ordered it closed.

    The Republicans in Congress are desperate to stop Obama from succeeding.

    They couldn't stop the ACA, but they refused to fund the transfer of prisoners out of Gitmo to the States, and whipped up hysteria about moving "terrorists" to our secure prisons.

    As if we don't know ...

    Noooo.... The Timeline for withdrawl from Iraq was set.

    BUSH wanted to build fifty Military Bases, and stay forever. The Iraquis said NO.

    You're being defeated by the "false equivalency" argument.

    Imagine this. You see a kid at school, being bullied.

    Do you a) report the bully, and get him kicked out?

    Or b) blame both the bully and the victim ?

    Because the conspiracy websites you're been reading are blaming the victim. If you want to dip into that poisoned well, you need to prepare yourself.

    Be ready to spend fifteen minutes researching for every minute reading.

    DON'T continue without researching. Learn to use Google. Learn to phrase questions in a way that breaks down the subject, and use Snopes.com as a quick shortcut.

    The Mexican Government doing "too good a job" stopping the drug trade? They're getting their ass handed to them !

    Their elected officials get gunned down in the street or kidnapped.

    FEMA Internment Camps?

    You may be too far gone already.

    Gitmo still open? Obama ordered it closed.

    The Republicans in Congress are desperate to stop Obama from succeeding.

    They couldn't stop the ACA, but they refused to fund the transfer of prisoners out of Gitmo to the States, and whipped up hysteria about moving "terrorists" to our secure prisons.

    As if we don't know how to lock people up ! We're the world experts at it.

    Gitmo is open because the GOP wants to retake the Presidency, and for no other reason.
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  • Yuffie ♫ K-POP Dance Guru 2012/08/07 01:41:37
    No
    Yuffie ♫ K-POP Dance Guru
    +8
    Criminals want gun control so they can feel safe .

    Criminal gun

    Criminal gun
  • Daniel Yuffie ... 2012/08/07 06:51:03
  • Stevethinks 2012/08/07 01:38:43
    Yes
    Stevethinks
    +1
    He'll do what ever necessary to lose. That would work. The sheeple are scared. I'm too dumb to be scared.

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