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Obama Says America Needs Soul Searching on Gun Violence: Will Obama Support Gun Control Before the Election?

Heisenberg 2012/08/06 23:00:00
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama said on Monday that mass killings like the weekend shooting rampage at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin were happening with too much regularity and should prompt soul searching by all Americans, but he stopped short of calling for new gun-control laws.
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  • zbacku 2012/08/07 01:56:49
    No
    zbacku
    +15
    He's a coward. He will wait until after the Election. His first agenda is to give ILLEGALS the right to vote.

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  • Drummerboy 2012/08/07 03:16:29
  • ☆astac☆ 2012/08/07 03:13:44
    Yes
    ☆astac☆
    +4
    America really needs to do some soul searching on if they are going to continue to support obama and the progressives
  • rustyshackelford 2012/08/07 02:59:44
  • Phyl *In God i Trust* 2012/08/07 02:58:55
    Yes
    Phyl *In God i Trust*
    +1
    I have seen and read it was in the works now.I think people will all ways be able to get guns.They would have to buy underground. Just my thinking.Sad we are have so much hate in America now days.
  • princess 2012/08/07 02:58:52
    Yes
    princess
    +4
    LMAO....Yeah right OVomit, the majority of Americans don't need to do "soul searching" over our 2nd Amendment rights, we know where we stand---and YOU don't have a soul, you soul-less SOB.
  • Peggy 2012/08/07 02:46:28
    No
    Peggy
    +3
    He is a deceitful liar. He will tickle the ears of the ignorant until it is too late. Then not only will he take away amendment 1 but he will get 2 also. Once our guns are gone there is nothing to stop him from becoming the next Hitler.
  • Soup Man 2012/08/07 02:42:13
  • firelooker Soup Man 2012/08/07 03:26:31
    firelooker
    +3
    But this isn't a emotional an idea as gun control. Guns are scary to the libs and can be used to stop them from committig the US to socialism.
  • Korgull firelooker 2012/08/07 09:38:56
    Korgull
    If you honestly think any politician in the US is anywhere close to Socialist, you are mentally dim. US politics has been pushed so far right, you think anyone centre-right (which is what Obama is) is Leftist or Socialist.

    You would have a heart attack if a real Socialist got anywhere near the White House.
  • jennandian Korgull 2012/08/07 22:32:36
    jennandian
    LMAO!!!! Compared to Stalin or Hitler maybe! Thats what hes trying to do BTW. For the US however, he is the farthest left you can get. The most liberal we have had.
  • Korgull jennandian 2012/08/07 23:09:17
    Korgull
    Hitler was far right. Stalin was an authoritarian douchebag who does not, at all, represent the left in any way.

    Obama is centre-right. It's an insult to any left-leaning person to call him a socialist or anything of the sort.
  • firelooker Korgull 2012/08/08 20:21:00
    firelooker
    Does he or does he not believe that the gov't is the answer to all our problems, has he or has he not ignored the constitution at every turn and used Exectutive orders to push his agenda. Has he or has he not endangered this country w/ his backdoor amnesty plan? Does he or doesn't he believe the UN should be the ones we answer to for everything. If he gets elected for another term you will see his Socialist/ Marxist philosophies emerge full bore.
  • Korgull firelooker 2012/08/08 21:06:18
    Korgull
    Oh please. Aside from try to bring in a proper Healthcare system, and do some pro-gay rights stuff, the most he's done is follow in Bush's footsteps. You want to call Bush a Socialist, too? I think not.

    I say again: Obama is centre-right on any proper political spectrum. Calling him a Socialist shows a completely lack of understanding as to what Socialism is.
  • firelooker Korgull 2012/08/08 21:33:46
    firelooker
    No sense talking to you, you believe Obama's the next coming of Christ and nothing will change that until his decisions affect you personally even then you'll probably bend over and ask him to do it again.
  • Korgull firelooker 2012/08/09 00:49:48
    Korgull
    Are you..
    Are you stupid?

    I'm just saying Obama is not the Socialist that Republicans make him out to be. I just finished saying that the majority of what he has done is follow in the footsteps of Bush, how exactly do you turn that into me thinking he is some Christ figure?

    The only reason a real left-leaning person would vote for him is because the other choices are far-right religious nuts, not because Obama is some Leftist saviour and hero.
  • InoYama... Soup Man 2012/08/07 21:38:56
    InoYamanaka
    +1
    Uh...Great metaphor, but wouldn't it more be 'give up your liquor'.
  • Soup Man InoYama... 2012/08/07 23:56:53
    Soup Man
    +1
    indeed good point.
  • Matthew Schwarz 2012/08/07 02:33:31
    Yes
    Matthew Schwarz
    +3
    Yes. He already does ( maybe not officially). This its yet another reason to get this clown out of office
  • Tracie Richards 2012/08/07 02:29:43
    Yes
    Tracie Richards
    +6
    He, and so many others, want us disarmed so that we can offer no real resistance. Many dictators turn to gun control before they impose horrific rules on their populace. They fear, and rightly so, that an armed citizenry could fight back against them.

    "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
    Thomas Jefferson
  • joe mauro 2012/08/07 02:24:18
    Yes
    joe mauro
    +3
    after the election
  • Haley 2012/08/07 02:09:03
    Yes
    Haley
    I hope so. Its time for rational gun control laws
  • ray Haley 2012/08/07 02:22:18
    ray
    +5
    We already have over 20,000 guns laws that restricts the guns and ammo we buy so there would be less massacres. We do not need another that takes away our guns completely leaves us defenseless.
  • burning... ray 2012/08/07 02:26:37
    burningsnowman
    +4
    Not only that but almost everyone that has seriously studied these sorts of things agree that "school shootings" are essentially a moral panic. You're about as likely to die from lightning as die from some maniac or sociopathic 14-22 year old firing rounds everywhere. I'd imagine the statistics for theater shootings or church/mosque/temple/whatever shootings are about the same. Most gun crime has to do with gang violence or robberies.
  • Haley burning... 2012/08/07 03:32:01 (edited)
    Haley
    +1
    We have had 3 major mass shooting, that ik of, in the past 2 years; what other country has this dishonorable distinction? This isn't a moral panic of school shootings, but dismay at this fact. Reasonable action needs to be taken.
  • ray Haley 2012/08/07 03:37:11
    ray
    Action needs to be taken? Notice how 3 massacres happened while the UN gun treaty was being passed.

    Nothing needs to be done. Doing something will only make it worse.
  • Haley ray 2012/08/07 03:57:41
    Haley
    +1
    I tend to think the UN is mostly a powerless organization. Yes action does need to be taken. it is absurd that a country like the usa will do nothing and allow mass shootings to continue.
  • ray Haley 2012/08/07 04:03:54 (edited)
    ray
    Do nothing? We have 22,000 gun laws. No action needs to be taken. 3 massacres have happened since the UN gun control has been created.
  • Haley ray 2012/08/07 03:18:18 (edited)
    Haley
    +1
    I'm not arguing for no more guns, but I no longer want semi-automatic and assault rifles to be so easy to buy. I am ashamed that this country has so many mass shootings. Something needs to be done. We have had 3 major mass shooting, that ik of, in the past 2 years what other country has this dishonorable distinction?
  • ray Haley 2012/08/07 03:28:17 (edited)
    ray
    There are not easy to buy. There are 20,000 guns laws that ban things like extended clips so there is less massacres. And why is having it easy bad? Switzerland gives out FREE assault rifles and trains them and because of that they have the lowest crime rates.

    Nothing needs to be done. 2 mass shooting happened in Colorado.A liberal state which means more gun control than other states.
  • Haley ray 2012/08/07 03:54:05
    Haley
    +1
    You may colorado as liberal state, but it has lax gun laws
    http://blogs.denverpost.com/o...
    And there have been mass shootings very recently in Wisconsin and in Arizona.

    It's good to make it harder to obtain these weapons because their purpose is to kill a room full of people. And yes criminals don't obey laws, but if we create laws making it harder to obtain these sorts of weapons nationwide, then it will be harder for criminals to get their hands on these sorts of weapons.

    the United States and Switzerland have similarly high levels of gun ownership but very different crime rates, and this variance does not support a positive correlation between gun prevalence and the prevention of violence.Switzerland's low crime level is due to having more social equality.
  • ray Haley 2012/08/07 03:58:27 (edited)
    ray
    It is already hard to obtain many types of weapons. We have over 22,000 gun laws. Lager clips are banned along with many,many,many,many guns and ammo. Criminals do not obey laws. Even if we ban all guns they will still find a way to obtain guns leaving us defenseless. We have 22,000 gun laws,so we do not need anymore.
  • Haley ray 2012/08/07 06:01:52
    Haley
    +1
    You just repeated yourself. I'm not saying ban guns. I'm saying strengthen the laws on gun control and limit the sale of semi-automatic weapons. Criminals don't obey laws, no, but we can make it harder for them to achieve their goals.
  • firelooker ray 2012/08/08 20:26:55
    firelooker
    +1
    No sense arguing w/ a liberal anti gun zealot, they refuse to believe the facts. It's been shown that state w/ less gun control have lower crime rates than states w/ strict gun control policies. But the anti's refuse to believe the FBI statistics because oit goes agains t what they believe. You notice these so called massacres happen in gun free zones where the crtiminal believes his vicftims will disarmed. Let's see one try something at a gun club or a pistol/ rifle target shoot!
  • firelooker Haley 2012/08/07 03:33:57
    firelooker
    +1
    How about this- we catch the bad guy sentence him to death, take him out and hang him by the neck until dead and publiize it so that every wacko who thinks of doing something understands that they will die for what they do. Our courts are too lenient on the criminals. The Aurora killer is already using the insanity plea to get away with what he did. You think if we outlaw guns the gangs and other criminals will abide by that law and give up their guns?
  • Haley firelooker 2012/08/07 03:55:34
    Haley
    +1
    No criminals don't obey laws, but if we create laws making it harder to obtain these sorts of weapons nationwide, then it will be harder for criminals to get their hands on these sorts of weapons.
    And I have no problem with the death penalty for people like Holmes. I do not believe he is criminally insane. I'm just not sure if the death penalty will do as much to deter future acts like this as much as potential gun control laws could.
  • firelooker Haley 2012/08/07 04:06:19
    firelooker
    You just said it criminals don't obey the law, During prohibition alcohol was illegal and almost impossible to btain yet the criminals like Al Capone still managed to get all they wanted and even made lot's of money off of it. Criminals will always ge hat they want or need to get what they want and all the gun control laws in the world wont stop them. Wake up & smell the coffee!
  • Haley firelooker 2012/08/07 05:55:17
    Haley
    +1
    Then y have laws at all. why don't we just let everyone do whatever they want since we can't stop them anyway? No we should have laws to regulate certain things and the shameful number of mass shootings in the usa has convinced me we need better regulations and limitations on semi-automatic weapons.
  • firelooker Haley 2012/08/07 06:16:10
    firelooker
    Why? It wasn't the weapon it was the person wielding it. Your reaction is typical lib philosophy if you don't like it ban it, gun control isn't about guns it's about people control go back and look at your history, All the dictators in the past instituted gun control to control the people.
  • Haley firelooker 2012/08/07 06:27:28
    Haley
    +1
    I'm not saying ban guns. If someone wants to buy a gun, then that's their prerogative. I'm pretty sure I never said we should ban anything. I just want the sale of semi-automatic weapons to be restricted and I want to strengthen gun control laws or better enforce the ones we already have because they are clearly too weak.

    I read that Holmes did use a semi-automatic weapon. And yes if he couldn't get his hands on that I'm sure he would have used a handgun. And if he couldn't obtain one of those then he would have used a knife. But the thing is if he did use a handgun, then the number of dead would probably have been lower. If he used a knife and the number of the dead would have been even smaller.
    Everyone realizes that people kill people, that's why we send them and not the weapon to prison, but the gun sure as hell helps them out.
  • Red Branch Haley 2012/08/07 03:52:24
    Red Branch
    If you don't want them, I suggest that you don't by any semi automatics.

    - Loughner, should have been on the prohibited list, the police could not take the time to do that. They knew he was crazy.
    -Holmes, probably should have been put on the prohibited list since I read today that his psychiatrist had called the police.
    The most recent shooting, I have to wait for details.
    -Ishmael Axe, he is the one who shot up VA Tech a few years ago. 2 women reported him for stalking, but would not sign a complaint, one of them would have put him on the prohibited list. I can't remember his name, but that was tattooed on his arm. "It translates as 'Son of Sacrifice'. are reference to Ishmael found of Arab peoples. Also, a judge had ordered him to take a psychological because an English teacher reported some deranged writings. The judge could have thrown him in jail for contempt of court and placed him on the list. 3 times the laws weren't enforced in this case.

    Unless existing laws are enforced, what is the sense in passing more laws?

    No one can legally buy a firearm until their name is run through the FBI computer.

    You cannot legally buy firearms through the mail or over the internet. No carrier will ship them either.

    The penalty for attempting to purchase a firearm when you are pr...
    If you don't want them, I suggest that you don't by any semi automatics.

    - Loughner, should have been on the prohibited list, the police could not take the time to do that. They knew he was crazy.
    -Holmes, probably should have been put on the prohibited list since I read today that his psychiatrist had called the police.
    The most recent shooting, I have to wait for details.
    -Ishmael Axe, he is the one who shot up VA Tech a few years ago. 2 women reported him for stalking, but would not sign a complaint, one of them would have put him on the prohibited list. I can't remember his name, but that was tattooed on his arm. "It translates as 'Son of Sacrifice'. are reference to Ishmael found of Arab peoples. Also, a judge had ordered him to take a psychological because an English teacher reported some deranged writings. The judge could have thrown him in jail for contempt of court and placed him on the list. 3 times the laws weren't enforced in this case.

    Unless existing laws are enforced, what is the sense in passing more laws?

    No one can legally buy a firearm until their name is run through the FBI computer.

    You cannot legally buy firearms through the mail or over the internet. No carrier will ship them either.

    The penalty for attempting to purchase a firearm when you are prohibited from owning firearms can get you 30 to 50 years in prison, depending on the circumstances.
    Clinton bragged about preventing 600,000 people from buying firearms, which is great. The problem was that he only prosecuted a couple thousand. Bush stopped about that many and only prosecuted a few more, but not enough to notice.
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