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Obama Pulls Combat Pay For U.S. Troops.... Why Was This Not Covered By Media...????

ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA* 2012/11/16 22:54:48
Troops Should Be Paid Combat Pay in Any War Zone
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Obama Pulls Combat Pay for U.S. Troops February 4, 2012 | Filed under: Florida Review | Posted by: Javier Manjarres
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Obama Pulls Combat Pay for U.S. Troops
February 4, 2012 | Filed under: Florida Review | Posted by: Javier Manjarres

By Javier Manjarres

President Obama’s latest policy outrage makes no attempt to hide his contempt for our military, as he is ordering that our troops serving overseas in war zones overseas are not to receive combat pay unless they are being shot at, or at risk of being injured by hostile aggression. A Marine who lives in Florida has just posted a note on Facebook which stated that he received a letter from his MyPay account that he would only be receiving his Hazard pay (Imminent Danger Pay) if he is actually in a hostile area and at risk of being shot at.

So I just got a letter from MyPay (the way we get paid in the military), saying that I will only reason Combat Pay while deployed for the days that I take fire or am in a hostile area. Now, as an Infantry Marine, I’m constantly in a combat zone…it may not always be popping off, but for them to take that away from us is bullshit. Now, the aviation tech who sits on Camp Leatherneck, sure, I can see him not getting Combat Pay, but to take it away from the grunts, the ground pounders, the front line of defense…come on, Uncle Sam. You let the Liberals win a big one here… Marine from Florida (We are not posting his name for obvious reasons)

According to Military.com, and the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 (H.R. 1540-7 Sec 616) as of February 1, 2012, this new measure went into effect, and soldiers who are to receive the additional $225/mo. combat pay ‘must’ be in immediate risk of harm. The measure is very specific in its criteria for receiving the additonal pay.

The rules for Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger Pay have changed. Service members will now receive imminent danger pay only for days they actually spend in hazardous areas. This change went in effect on February 1, 2012.

A member of a uniformed service may be entitled to Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger pay at the rate of $225 for any month in which he/she was entitled to basic pay and in which he/she was:

Subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;
On duty in an area in which he was in imminent danger of being exposed to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines and in which, during the period he was on duty in that area, other members of the uniformed services were subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;
Killed, injured, or wounded by hostile fire, explosion of a hostile mine, or any other hostile action; or
On duty in a foreign area in which he was subject to the threat of physical harm or imminent danger on the basis of civil insurrection, civil war, terrorism, or wartime conditions.

The last bullet point speaks volumes as to the sheer stupidity of this measure. The whole point of going to Afghanistan and Iraq was for combat operations- Afghanistan still is a hostile warzone, and both U.S. and NATO forces continue to suffer losses in and out of combat hot zones. Insurgent attacks have accured throughout areas that have been deemed ‘safe’, and in areas where hostilities were not forseen.

Before the regulation went into effect, military personnel would be awarded $225 “combat pay” if they spent a single qualifying day in the combat zone (i.e., “danger pay location). Now, however, the $225 “combat pay” will actually be awarded $7.50 per day for the actual number of days that one spends in an established combat zone. As described by Andrew Tilghman in The Air Force Times, “So, for example, if a service member spends only 7 days of the month in Afghanistan, he or she will have only $52.50 in Imminent Danger Pay added to their paycheck.”

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  • terrance 2012/12/01 00:14:49
    I have A Different Answer
    terrance
    +1
    There still is hazardas duty pay wich is about the same. Ex: working on air craft carrier. It still said "or at risk of being injured by hostile aggression". Ex: your deep in Known enemy territory you are at risk of being injured even though your not being shot at. My pops got paid combat zone pay for being at risk. Now if your just on base in a safe zone no bombs or mortor fire you don't get paid, but there is still all kinds of pays they recieve from languge pay, electronic usage, ect...
  • terrance terrance 2012/12/01 00:15:54
    terrance
    +1
    I think they should just pay it creats a mess of paperwork
  • ReconMa... terrance 2012/12/01 00:42:49
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    You Bet....and It is Not that Much anyway....
    Especially since Tax Payers Paid 1.4-Billion each Year to Him and Family...
    Pay The Troops...They Deserve It....
  • ReconMa... terrance 2012/12/01 00:41:05
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    It is Not the Same distinction anymore....
    It use to be War Zone...that meant the Country or Sector you were in that was Declared By Congress....Now, You must be in the Direct Line of Fire or in an Explosive Devise Area...
    and That is paid at $7.50 Per Day in that Line of Fire....which breaks down to $0.32 per Hour....
    Is this How he is going to Create More Jobs...have Monitors to Verfy every Claim for Haz Pay..????
  • santa6642 2012/11/30 21:39:22
    Troops Should Be Paid Combat Pay in Any War Zone
    santa6642
    +1
    He needs the money for his vacation to the islands.
  • ReconMa... santa6642 2012/12/01 00:43:35
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    Taxpayers Spent 1.4-Billion for Him and His Family each Year in Office...
  • snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cl... 2012/11/27 22:27:22
    Troops Should Be Paid Combat Pay in Any War Zone
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    +1
    What we are victim of is a treasonous bunch of greedy liberal bastards posing as 'leaders' on Capitol Hill. In short: We been had America!
  • ReconMa... snell/G... 2012/12/01 00:45:44
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    BINGO....you bet we Have been HAD....
    He Cuts Troops Haz Duty Pay in a War Zone, Unless In Direct Line Of Fire, while Taxpayers Spend 1.4-Billion each Year for Him and His Family....Where is the Logic....????
  • princess 2012/11/23 04:21:43
    Troops Should Be Paid Combat Pay in Any War Zone
    princess
    +1
    This is to be EXPECTED from Dictator OVomit who detests our military and all our troops.
    His actions against our military will only WORSEN from this point on.
    Thanks for posting this Recon.....since OVomit CONTROLS THE MESSAGE that's reported by his lap-dog liberal media.
  • ReconMa... princess 2012/11/24 22:04:26
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    Thank you for your Comment, My Friend...
    ODUMBO definitely controls the Media and you would Never see this reported there...
  • seadog6608PWCM 2012/11/22 03:08:20
  • ReconMa... seadog6... 2012/11/24 22:07:18
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    Thank you for your comment my friend...
    You Bet...Pay them...$220.00 per month can surely be found somewhere from the Budget...Maybe they can find it from their PORK projects....Their Food Stamp Scam Programs...
  • seadog6... ReconMa... 2012/11/25 03:46:17
  • ReconMa... seadog6... 2012/12/01 00:47:58
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    You were a Gov Contractor and as such are treated the Same, fo being in a Combat War Zone....
    $220 per Month is Nothing...But I guess that is all a Life is worth to the Gov....
  • seadog6... ReconMa... 2012/12/01 02:48:16
  • ReconMa... seadog6... 2012/12/01 23:40:35
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    Exactly...especially with all the Perks from Lobbiest
  • seadog6... ReconMa... 2012/12/02 01:45:01
  • ReconMa... seadog6... 2012/12/10 18:12:31
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    Exactly what they are....
    Every Campaign says they are going to stop Lobbyists....Yeah Right...
    Obama is the worst one for allowing them into the WH...
  • OGMGS1 2012/11/20 20:54:39
    I have A Different Answer
    OGMGS1
    +1
    Soldiers should make the best wages in America but did Obama pull the pay or did Congress?
  • Scully+... OGMGS1 2012/11/20 23:38:37
    Scully+MulderWereRight
    +1
    Congress did it. The legislation passed in the House: 283yes, 136no and in the Senate: 86yes, 13no. Greater than 2/3 vote in both Chambers, which means that it was veto-proof.
  • Scully+... Scully+... 2012/11/21 07:16:33
    Scully+MulderWereRight
    Some interesting things to consider about the original post of this thread: At the end of it are links to websites with articles about this issue. Several of those articles make the point that Congress passed this legislation with a large enough margin that it was veto-proof, that it wasn't authored by the POTUS, and that the troops still get combat pay, but based on the actual number of days they're in the theatre of operations.

    Obviously, the author of this post didn't read the articles he referenced, thinking that they supported his contention when, actually, they disprove it.
  • ReconMa... Scully+... 2012/11/24 22:14:46
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    TYP LIB...Give ODUMBO A PASS...
    Yes..I read them and Posted everything...
    I do NOT do just one side as YOU do...
    ODUMBO has Gone around Congress for Illegals..He could Do it for the Troops who are Dying for this Country...
    What are Illegals Doing...Taking Jobs and Giving Nothing in return..

    Very pathetic Attempt to Protect your King Allah Obama....Pathetic at Best...
  • ReconMa... Scully+... 2012/11/24 22:10:04
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    HE has Over Ridden Congress Before, so a VETO was Not of off his realm...
    He Over Rode the Dream Act...he could Over Ride This..
    ODUMBO does Not get a Free Pass on this...
  • ReconMa... OGMGS1 2012/11/24 22:08:27
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    Both...He had the Last word by the Stroke Of The Pen....Called VETO...he did not exercise that so HE is the one who gets the Credit...
  • Semper Fi 2012/11/19 15:06:01
    Troops Should Be Paid Combat Pay in Any War Zone
    Semper Fi
    +3
    A war zone is a war zone. When you are constantly under threat of rocket attacks, IED's, small arms fire, etc., you are in a war zone.
  • ReconMa... Semper Fi 2012/11/24 22:17:43
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +2
    BINGO.....AMEN...
    Those of US who have been there understand...
    These Areswhole LIB's Haven't and Seem to think the Troops do not deserve The Low Pay as It is....Yet they Believe the ILLEGALS here deserve the Free Welfare, and Food Stamps they receive...
    Very Warped Attitude of Who is Deserving...
  • Zepland 2012/11/18 21:52:58
    Troops Should Be Paid Combat Pay in Any War Zone
    Zepland
    +2
    Benghazi. Military, DOD and government officials should get hazardous duty pay while in a war zone.
  • ReconMa... Zepland 2012/11/24 22:18:07
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +2
    AMEN.....
  • linda ~PWCM~JLA 2012/11/18 20:40:10
    Troops Should Be Paid Combat Pay in Any War Zone
    linda   ~PWCM~JLA
    +4
    The Military deserves the best of everything. I can see why they dislike Obama. Cutting their combat pay, not even counting all their paper ballots, and being himself. My Brother and many others are still suffering the results of being in combat. This should be our first priority elevated above the fake disabled and Mexicans.
  • ReconMa... linda ... 2012/11/24 22:19:21
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +3
    AMEN....Well Said My Friend...
  • linda ... ReconMa... 2012/11/25 11:05:08
    linda   ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    My Brother just got compensation for Agent Orange 40 yrs. after the fact. Something's wrong with this picture.
  • ReconMa... linda ... 2012/12/01 00:49:02
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    I hear ya....It takes the Gov years to act...AFTER, you come Home...If your are Lucky enough to Come Home...
  • linda ... ReconMa... 2012/12/01 05:14:49
    linda   ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    I think they wait so long they think you'll die before they have to pay you. Everyone that goes to War pays a heavy price. God bless you all.
  • ReconMa... linda ... 2012/12/01 23:41:49
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    Sure seems to be that way....
  • derek 2012/11/18 17:13:26
  • ReconMa... derek 2012/11/24 22:20:12
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +2
    Well Said and So True...
  • addie 2012/11/18 17:00:40
    Troops Should Be Paid Combat Pay in Any War Zone
    addie
    +2
    I am not sure i understand the issue. If combat pay is awarded for being in combat, why would it be given to someone who has not in combat? Is it that anywhere they are that is away from home is potentially hostile? I guess that makes sense.

    You should not attack liberals over this because liberals are not against the troops, they are against how they are used maybe, but not the troops. I'm a liberal and I think the soldiers should be treated 100% better than they are by the US government.
  • ReconMa... addie 2012/11/24 22:25:09
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    There are Many places out of Country that are Not War Zones....Combat Pay is awarded to those in a War Zone...Afghanastan, or Iraq, for Instance....ODUMBO signed Into law, that Combat pay only be received if in the "Direct Line Of Fire, or in a Explosive Device area",
    He has reduced the War Zone to actual Fighting...yet discounts other areas that Can Be Attacked, because you are in a War Zone...
    From Many polls on SH over the Years I have been On it...I find Most LIB's do NOT support our Troops....They Support Obama and Islam....PERIOD
  • addie ReconMa... 2012/11/25 01:08:22
    addie
    +1
    When you talk about it I feel like saying they should be charged a fee for being in harms way. lol
  • ReconMa... addie 2012/12/01 00:52:18
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    Had to read it a few times before it Clicked ...
    You are Right...If Obama Could Have his Way..he Would Charge the Troops for Being Their...
    He did try in 2010 to Have Troops in a Combat Area pay their Own health Care...It Did get Voted Down....
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