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We're six months from the general election, and things are starting to get serious. After months of focus on the GOP primary, President Obama is taking a preliminary shot at policy. In an interview with ABC News on Wednesday, Obama became the first U.S. president to publicly support gay marriage. This is a significant change in perspective from his 2008 campaign, when he supported civil unions but opposed gay marriage.

He told ABC News, "For me personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couple should be able to get married." Many suspect the sudden shift is in response to public opinion, which has been steadily moving in the direction of support for gay marriage, and while it certainly won't be the focus of the election, it has vast implications for the direction Obama's campaign might head. Do you think it will help Obama get reelected, or will this breaking news do more harm than good?

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  • Chelsea 2012/05/09 23:04:30
    Hurt
    Chelsea
    +60
    More proof that Obama has no moral compass or developed conscience. He truly is a empty suit. obama is immoral

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  • jimmy d 2012/05/09 21:23:26
    Hurt
    jimmy d
    +4
    I heard his speech. It didn't sound sincere. He's only doing it for political gain but I think it will backfire and hurt him. At least, I hope so......
  • Kigan 2012/05/09 21:22:14
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    Kigan
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    It will help him get more voters for sure.

    What really matters, though, is whether or not this is just a campaign tactic in light of the disaster that is Amendment 1 in North Carolina. Will he stick with it or drop it once re-elected?
  • Herb Kigan 2012/05/09 21:27:00
    Herb
    how he will loose the church big block lol. and women and blacks men they dont like gay marriage lol. or hispanic men. probably some church independents.
  • Angie ♥... Herb 2012/05/09 21:39:59
    Angie ♥♡Obama♡♥
    +2
    women love gay ppl :) and there are A LOT of black and Hispanic gays, so try again. It's rich, old, white, religious, bigoted men that don't like gays, and they were all voting for romney anyways ;)
  • Herb Angie ♥... 2012/05/09 21:57:04
    Herb
    +1
    the major proponaites against gay marrigage in califonia was black men lol and chuch people that were going to vote for him will not

    Religion % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Protestant (43%) 65% 35%
    Catholic (30%) 64% 36%
    Other (11%) 33% 67%
    None (16%) 10% 90%

    As Protestants and Catholics constitute Western Christianity, which in turn accounts for about 90% of Christians in the world (most likely more than 90% in California), it is highly unlikely that a significant portion of the "Other" group are Christians. Therefore, further simplification of the data:

    Religion % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Christian (73%) 65% 35%
    Non-Christian (27%) 18% 82%

    shows people voted for or against Proposition 8 primarily based on whether an individual considered him or herself not simply religious, but specifically Christian. Given another statistic:

    Church Attendance % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Weekly (32%) 84% 16%
    Occasionally (44%) 46% 54%
    Never (21%) 17% 83%

    One can quite accurately pre...















































    the major proponaites against gay marrigage in califonia was black men lol and chuch people that were going to vote for him will not

    Religion % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Protestant (43%) 65% 35%
    Catholic (30%) 64% 36%
    Other (11%) 33% 67%
    None (16%) 10% 90%

    As Protestants and Catholics constitute Western Christianity, which in turn accounts for about 90% of Christians in the world (most likely more than 90% in California), it is highly unlikely that a significant portion of the "Other" group are Christians. Therefore, further simplification of the data:

    Religion % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Christian (73%) 65% 35%
    Non-Christian (27%) 18% 82%

    shows people voted for or against Proposition 8 primarily based on whether an individual considered him or herself not simply religious, but specifically Christian. Given another statistic:

    Church Attendance % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Weekly (32%) 84% 16%
    Occasionally (44%) 46% 54%
    Never (21%) 17% 83%

    One can quite accurately predict whether someone voted yes or no on Proposition 8 with this algorithm.

    Does the person consider him or herself Christian?
    If no, figure that person voted no.
    If yes, ask the person how often they attend church.
    If they answer weekly, figure they voted yes,
    if some other frequency, they likely voted no.

    Based on the exit poll data, this algorithm should lead to a correct prediction 3 out of 4 times.

    The California Government is supposed to be secular. If one makes the argument that marriage is a religious institution, then no definition of it should exist in a government document such as a constitution. If a definition of it does exist in a government document, then the content of it should not be influenced by religious beliefs. By that logic, the passing of Prop 8 is a sham.

    Race
    Looking at the vote by race reveals a curious detail:

    Race % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    White (63%) 49% 51%
    African-American (10%) 70% 30%
    Latino (18%) 53% 47%
    Asian (6%) 49% 51%
    Other (3%) 51% 49%

    That data can be reduced to:

    Race % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    African-American (10%) 70% 30%
    Other (90%) 50% 50%

    Why are African-Americans 40% more likely to have cast a vote in favor of Prop 8? Unfortunately one can only speculate as the exit poll data doesn't provide any other data allowing further refinement. However, another curious detail arises when one looks at sex and race:

    Sex % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Male (46%) 53% 47%
    Female (54%) 52% 48%

    On the surface, whether one is male or female doesn't seem to play much of a part in how an individual votes. However, adding race into the mix:

    Sex and Race % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    White Men (31%) 51% 49%
    White Women (32%) 47% 53%
    Black Men (4%) N/A N/A
    Black Women (6%) 75% 25%
    Latino Men (8%) 54% 46%
    Latino Women (11%) 52% 48%
    All Other Races (9%) 49% 51%

    And calculating the missing black men percentages:

    Sex and Race % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Black Men (4%) 62.5% 37.5%
    (more)
  • Kigan Herb 2012/05/09 21:40:01
    Kigan
    Are you supposed to be serious here?

    You're copying and pasting that same thing to a bunch of people and you expect anyone to think you are serious? Especially with your nonexistent capitalization and issues with sentence structure.
  • Herb Kigan 2012/05/09 21:57:56
    Herb
    my point is church people dont like it here are pro 8 numbers
    Religion % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Protestant (43%) 65% 35%
    Catholic (30%) 64% 36%
    Other (11%) 33% 67%
    None (16%) 10% 90%

    As Protestants and Catholics constitute Western Christianity, which in turn accounts for about 90% of Christians in the world (most likely more than 90% in California), it is highly unlikely that a significant portion of the "Other" group are Christians. Therefore, further simplification of the data:

    Religion % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Christian (73%) 65% 35%
    Non-Christian (27%) 18% 82%

    shows people voted for or against Proposition 8 primarily based on whether an individual considered him or herself not simply religious, but specifically Christian. Given another statistic:

    Church Attendance % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Weekly (32%) 84% 16%
    Occasionally (44%) 46% 54%
    Never (21%) 17% 83%

    One can quite accurately predict whether someone voted yes or no on Proposition 8 with this algori...















































    my point is church people dont like it here are pro 8 numbers
    Religion % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Protestant (43%) 65% 35%
    Catholic (30%) 64% 36%
    Other (11%) 33% 67%
    None (16%) 10% 90%

    As Protestants and Catholics constitute Western Christianity, which in turn accounts for about 90% of Christians in the world (most likely more than 90% in California), it is highly unlikely that a significant portion of the "Other" group are Christians. Therefore, further simplification of the data:

    Religion % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Christian (73%) 65% 35%
    Non-Christian (27%) 18% 82%

    shows people voted for or against Proposition 8 primarily based on whether an individual considered him or herself not simply religious, but specifically Christian. Given another statistic:

    Church Attendance % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Weekly (32%) 84% 16%
    Occasionally (44%) 46% 54%
    Never (21%) 17% 83%

    One can quite accurately predict whether someone voted yes or no on Proposition 8 with this algorithm.

    Does the person consider him or herself Christian?
    If no, figure that person voted no.
    If yes, ask the person how often they attend church.
    If they answer weekly, figure they voted yes,
    if some other frequency, they likely voted no.

    Based on the exit poll data, this algorithm should lead to a correct prediction 3 out of 4 times.

    The California Government is supposed to be secular. If one makes the argument that marriage is a religious institution, then no definition of it should exist in a government document such as a constitution. If a definition of it does exist in a government document, then the content of it should not be influenced by religious beliefs. By that logic, the passing of Prop 8 is a sham.

    Race
    Looking at the vote by race reveals a curious detail:

    Race % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    White (63%) 49% 51%
    African-American (10%) 70% 30%
    Latino (18%) 53% 47%
    Asian (6%) 49% 51%
    Other (3%) 51% 49%

    That data can be reduced to:

    Race % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    African-American (10%) 70% 30%
    Other (90%) 50% 50%

    Why are African-Americans 40% more likely to have cast a vote in favor of Prop 8? Unfortunately one can only speculate as the exit poll data doesn't provide any other data allowing further refinement. However, another curious detail arises when one looks at sex and race:

    Sex % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Male (46%) 53% 47%
    Female (54%) 52% 48%

    On the surface, whether one is male or female doesn't seem to play much of a part in how an individual votes. However, adding race into the mix:

    Sex and Race % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    White Men (31%) 51% 49%
    White Women (32%) 47% 53%
    Black Men (4%) N/A N/A
    Black Women (6%) 75% 25%
    Latino Men (8%) 54% 46%
    Latino Women (11%) 52% 48%
    All Other Races (9%) 49% 51%

    And calculating the missing black men percentages:

    Sex and Race % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Black Men (4%) 62.5% 37.5%
    (more)
  • Joey Herb 2012/05/09 21:56:31
    Joey
    Most black people will not turn on Obama for supporting gay people.
  • Herb Joey 2012/05/09 22:04:31
    Herb
    the church people will faith somes first over race or color wanna bet me
  • Joey Herb 2012/05/09 22:06:07
    Joey
    Black people are not going to a party that hates them just for this .
  • Herb Joey 2012/05/09 22:09:21
    Herb
    they may not vote which is the same thing lol
  • Korgull Herb 2012/05/09 21:57:14
    Korgull
    +1
    It amazes me any black man would be against gay marriage, considering the same people who are against it are also the ones who would have been against interracial marriage. Hell, they'd also be the ones who were against giving black people basic rights in the first place!

    And women. They had to fight for their own rights, too. Now they are on the side they once fought against.
  • Herb Korgull 2012/05/09 22:05:32
    Herb
    +1
    you see the numbers lol they did they were the major deciding vote.
  • CG Kigan 2012/05/09 21:42:28
    CG
    +1
    Of course it's a campaign tactic. He has had the same views on gay marriage as most of the conservatives all along. Now that he's losing so much gay support though because he has done essentially nothing for them, he pipes up with this. The interesting thing is he said he now supports it, not that he will do anything about it. He even said that it is a state issue which again is the conservative mantra.
  • Kigan CG 2012/05/09 21:46:06 (edited)
    Kigan
    +2
    Exactly. He spoke out, but there's no reason to believe he's actually going to do anything.

    He's a campaigner - he never quit doing so.
  • rightside 2012/05/09 21:22:03
    Hurt
    rightside
    +3
    He lied! He's a big fat liar!

  • TruBluT... rightside 2012/05/09 21:27:27
    TruBluTopaz
    +1
    And this surprises you why?
  • rightside TruBluT... 2012/05/09 21:30:55
    rightside
    +3
    Doesn't at all. I knew he was lying then to get Christians to vote for him. I just want to remind them all what a big fat liar he is and hopefully they won't vote for him this time.
    obama big fat liar
  • Red_Horse 2012/05/09 21:20:30
  • merlinskiss 2012/05/09 21:20:27
    Help
    merlinskiss
    +2
    But not with the right winged religious fanatics. Guess he didn't have their vote in any case... ;-)
  • Herb merlins... 2012/05/09 21:27:12
    Herb
    how he will loose the church big block lol. and women and blacks men they dont like gay marriage lol. or hispanic men. probably some church independents.
  • merlins... Herb 2012/05/09 21:30:22
    merlinskiss
    +1
    Maybe, maybe not. It's about 50/50 from what I can tell.
  • Herb merlins... 2012/05/09 21:59:25
    Herb
    Religion % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Protestant (43%) 65% 35%
    Catholic (30%) 64% 36%
    Other (11%) 33% 67%
    None (16%) 10% 90%

    As Protestants and Catholics constitute Western Christianity, which in turn accounts for about 90% of Christians in the world (most likely more than 90% in California), it is highly unlikely that a significant portion of the "Other" group are Christians. Therefore, further simplification of the data:

    Religion % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Christian (73%) 65% 35%
    Non-Christian (27%) 18% 82%

    shows people voted for or against Proposition 8 primarily based on whether an individual considered him or herself not simply religious, but specifically Christian. Given another statistic:

    Church Attendance % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Weekly (32%) 84% 16%
    Occasionally (44%) 46% 54%
    Never (21%) 17% 83%

    One can quite accurately predict whether someone voted yes or no on Proposition 8 with this algorithm.

    Does the person consider him or herself Christian?
    If no, ...












































    Religion % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Protestant (43%) 65% 35%
    Catholic (30%) 64% 36%
    Other (11%) 33% 67%
    None (16%) 10% 90%

    As Protestants and Catholics constitute Western Christianity, which in turn accounts for about 90% of Christians in the world (most likely more than 90% in California), it is highly unlikely that a significant portion of the "Other" group are Christians. Therefore, further simplification of the data:

    Religion % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Christian (73%) 65% 35%
    Non-Christian (27%) 18% 82%

    shows people voted for or against Proposition 8 primarily based on whether an individual considered him or herself not simply religious, but specifically Christian. Given another statistic:

    Church Attendance % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Weekly (32%) 84% 16%
    Occasionally (44%) 46% 54%
    Never (21%) 17% 83%

    One can quite accurately predict whether someone voted yes or no on Proposition 8 with this algorithm.

    Does the person consider him or herself Christian?
    If no, figure that person voted no.
    If yes, ask the person how often they attend church.
    If they answer weekly, figure they voted yes,
    if some other frequency, they likely voted no.

    Based on the exit poll data, this algorithm should lead to a correct prediction 3 out of 4 times.

    The California Government is supposed to be secular. If one makes the argument that marriage is a religious institution, then no definition of it should exist in a government document such as a constitution. If a definition of it does exist in a government document, then the content of it should not be influenced by religious beliefs. By that logic, the passing of Prop 8 is a sham.

    Race
    Looking at the vote by race reveals a curious detail:

    Race % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    White (63%) 49% 51%
    African-American (10%) 70% 30%
    Latino (18%) 53% 47%
    Asian (6%) 49% 51%
    Other (3%) 51% 49%

    That data can be reduced to:

    Race % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    African-American (10%) 70% 30%
    Other (90%) 50% 50%

    Why are African-Americans 40% more likely to have cast a vote in favor of Prop 8? Unfortunately one can only speculate as the exit poll data doesn't provide any other data allowing further refinement. However, another curious detail arises when one looks at sex and race:

    Sex % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Male (46%) 53% 47%
    Female (54%) 52% 48%

    On the surface, whether one is male or female doesn't seem to play much of a part in how an individual votes. However, adding race into the mix:

    Sex and Race % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    White Men (31%) 51% 49%
    White Women (32%) 47% 53%
    Black Men (4%) N/A N/A
    Black Women (6%) 75% 25%
    Latino Men (8%) 54% 46%
    Latino Women (11%) 52% 48%
    All Other Races (9%) 49% 51%

    And calculating the missing black men percentages:

    Sex and Race % of respondents Yes on prop 8 No on prop 8
    Black Men (4%) 62.5% 37.5%
    (more)
  • merlins... Herb 2012/05/09 23:09:10
    merlinskiss
    +1
    Quite a diatribe. But goes back to what I said. Have a good one.
  • Bilingual required sucks 2012/05/09 21:18:57
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    Bilingual required sucks
    +4
    This president just kicks ass. He speaks his mind and walks where Republicans fear to tread.
  • Herb Bilingu... 2012/05/09 21:27:20
    Herb
    how he will loose the church big block lol. and women and blacks men they dont like gay marriage lol. or hispanic men. probably some church independents.
  • Bilingu... Herb 2012/05/09 21:50:18
    Bilingual required sucks
    +1
    He never had the "church big block" and neither does Romney because he is in the Mormon cult. TRUST me on this......blacks are NOT going to vote against Obama and vote for a rich white guy who says he doesn't care about poor people because they don't like gays. The Hispanics with the exception of the Cubans in Miami, despise Republican immigration policies.

    He has nothing to lose by making that statement.
  • Herb Bilingu... 2012/05/09 22:00:54
    Herb
    i think he will lose though gop will get hispanics they take rubio black christains will vote against him sorry faith not color.
  • Bilingu... Herb 2012/05/09 22:05:38
    Bilingual required sucks
    +1
    We shall see Herb...who is going to be sworn in next January. Let's just say I highly doubt it's going to be Mitt. I understand you feel differently.
  • Herb Bilingu... 2012/05/09 22:07:07
    Herb
    even is obama eveyone say the senate and house will be gop how much will he get done he will be like clinton.
  • Bilingu... Herb 2012/05/09 22:10:20
    Bilingual required sucks
    +1
    We SHALL SEE HERB.
  • Herb Bilingu... 2012/05/09 22:22:42
    Herb
    +1
    im 7- 1 sir i've called the last seven since chrisy and brown lol im on record her i have been doing politics since i was 16 i'm 43 now.
    history has shown no president has ever been reelected in a bad economy lets say carter was one. ue has been at 8.3 for 3yrs gas prices risen more then any president. obama has les job creation the bush 1 bush 2 reagan or clinton history has proven the numbers. he has spent more then bush in 3 then he did in 8. when the gop make obama run on his recored us things like we were supposed to be at 6% ue and run adds with etc obamas going down my freind lol.
  • Bilingu... Herb 2012/05/09 22:34:31
  • Herb Bilingu... 2012/05/09 22:42:44
    Herb
    +1
    oh and 10% of blacks voted gop in 2008 lol we will see how many cross this year.
  • KoolGuyL Herb 2012/05/09 22:01:01
    KoolGuyL
    +2
    No, women actually support gay marriage. Blacks will vote for him for economic reasons. Hispanics support him also.
  • MR. 2012/05/09 21:17:25
    Hurt
    MR.
    +3
    Half the nation must support this "foolishness",...they voted for him. *(ROMNEY 2012)
  • Red_Horse MR. 2012/05/09 21:20:47
  • Bilingu... Red_Horse 2012/05/09 21:53:02
    Bilingual required sucks
    F*ck Romney2012
  • Charge 2012/05/09 21:14:30
    Hurt
    Charge
    +5
    It will solidify the gay and lesbian vote but may alienate some Blacks, Hispanics and other Christians; not to mention the average people seeing him flip-flop on another issue.
  • Red_Horse Charge 2012/05/09 21:21:34

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