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ComeOnNow 2012/07/13 20:41:33
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The Obama administration has proposed a waiver of Clintn's requirement to require welfare recipients to work. Do you think this is a good move?

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration has quietly opened the
door for states to seek major changes in how they meet federal
welfare-to-work requirements for some of their poorest residents, and
leading conservatives are crying foul.

In a
memo to states issued with little notice late Thursday, the federal
Health and Human Services Department said it is interested in approving
state experiments that will help "find more effective mechanisms for
helping families succeed in employment."

States
will not be able to escape the work requirements of the landmark 1996
federal welfare reform law, the administration said, but they may get
federal approval to try to accomplish the same goals by using different
methods than those spelled out in the legislation.

Signed
by Democratic President Bill Clinton as he steered his administration
toward the political center, the welfare reform law replaced a federal
entitlement with grants to the states, while putting a time limit on how
long families can get aid and requiring recipients to eventually go to
work. The program is now called Temporary Assistance for Needy Families,
or TANF for short.

House Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp, R-Mich., and Sen. Orrin
Hatch of Utah, the senior Republican on the committee that oversees
welfare. Camp called the waiver plan "a brazen and unwarranted
unraveling of welfare reform," while Hatch called it a "power grab."

In
a letter to HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, the two lawmakers demanded
an explanation, saying the work requirements have remained untouched
for 16 years and may not be waived. "No other administration ... has
ever arrived at the conclusion that TANF work requirements can be
waived," said the two lawmakers.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=156741426

Welfare reform replaced the old Aid to Families with Dependent
Children with a new program, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families
(TANF). The underlying concept of welfare reform was that able-bodied
adults should be required to work or prepare for work as a condition of
receiving welfare aid.


The welfare reform law was very successful.
In the four decades prior to welfare reform, the welfare caseload never
experienced a significant decline. But, in the four years after welfare
reform, the caseload dropped by nearly half. Employment surged and
child poverty among blacks and single mothers plummeted to historic
lows. What was the catalyst for these improvements? Rigorous new federal
work requirements contained in TANF.


Contrary to some perceptions, the formula that made welfare reform a
success was not giving state governments more flexibility in operating
federally funded welfare programs. The active ingredient that made the
difference was requiring state governments to implement those rigorous
new federal work standards.


Today the Obama administration issued a
dramatic new directive stating that the traditional TANF work
requirements will be waived or overridden by a legal device called a
section 1115 waiver authority under the Social Security law (42 U.S.C.
1315)

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  • John Hall 2012/07/13 21:59:10
    No
    John Hall
    +5
    In my world you don't work you don't eat . If you receive welfare you should work ( community service) I think this is why we have so many on welfare we make it to damn easy .

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  • Kathy 2014/01/13 01:58:44
    Yes
    Kathy
    I don't know about other states, but here in Illinois they have this work requirement and no kind of support so that it is possible for single mothers of preschool children to be able to do the work and also when you break down how much they get for this work it comes to about $2 and hour. Not even an illegal immigrant will work for that kind of slave wage.

    When welfare reform was new it was easier to get government help with paying for child care while a mother worked for the 1st year at least. I think it was called welfare to work. There were all kinds of supports to help people get started. Just what are single mothers with pre-school children supposed to do with their children while they do this work for slave wages. Not everyone has family nearby who can or will help out. Watching young children is work itself and friends might be willing to help out once in a while, but getting a regular babysitter who will work for free and isn't a close relative is a pretty tall order. Around here people don't even collect TANF because of that, so TANF is all but dead and gone.

    Another thing, racist people, not everyone on these programs is black. While I was never unfortunate enough to need something like this, I know many white people who use these programs. Some are forme...
    I don't know about other states, but here in Illinois they have this work requirement and no kind of support so that it is possible for single mothers of preschool children to be able to do the work and also when you break down how much they get for this work it comes to about $2 and hour. Not even an illegal immigrant will work for that kind of slave wage.

    When welfare reform was new it was easier to get government help with paying for child care while a mother worked for the 1st year at least. I think it was called welfare to work. There were all kinds of supports to help people get started. Just what are single mothers with pre-school children supposed to do with their children while they do this work for slave wages. Not everyone has family nearby who can or will help out. Watching young children is work itself and friends might be willing to help out once in a while, but getting a regular babysitter who will work for free and isn't a close relative is a pretty tall order. Around here people don't even collect TANF because of that, so TANF is all but dead and gone.

    Another thing, racist people, not everyone on these programs is black. While I was never unfortunate enough to need something like this, I know many white people who use these programs. Some are formerly middle class white single mothers who have temporarily fallen on hard times and some are very low class white folks who take advantage of the system and spend their money on drugs and things, while they cheat the system. I am sure that the black single mothers on these programs range from deadbeat drug addicts to middle class single mothers fallen on hard times, just like the white women on the system. The low class types who use their money for drugs and cigarettes, while cheating the system disgust me just as much as they disgust the most conservative Republican, but there are many people who truly need the help. After Welfare reform started way back when they made a law with a lifetime limit of 5 years for a person to be able to collect welfare (in total, not you collect for 4 years here go back to work for a while and then collect again). This was and is an excellent idea, because it stopped inter-generational welfare, which used to be common among certain classes of people, but let's be a compassionate society. Anyone can fall on hard times with the right combination of circumstances. We need to help people help themselves if necessary.
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  • Kat ♪ ~ ♪ 2012/09/01 14:30:47
    No
    Kat ♪ ~ ♪
    +1
    Obama is an idiot.
  • Blue Dog 2012/07/15 10:41:20
    No
    Blue Dog
    +1
    Just another low for obowels! Gotta keep that entitlement population up!
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/07/14 01:11:55
    No
    jackolantyrn356
    +1
    Obummer just gotta kleep dem welfare people all gathered up amd tota;;y dependent of Obam,a....... He jus' loves to keep that Black SLAVE mentality going. He promotes sloth and what they used to call :being Shiftless"
  • ed 2012/07/13 23:02:10
    No
    ed
    +1
    this will help him get the black vote
  • Stix 2012/07/13 22:44:11
    No
    Stix
    +2
    Obama has never seen a law he couldn't get around somehow...
  • red 2012/07/13 22:20:55 (edited)
    No
    red
    +2
    We have enough grown "children" who think they were born for their parents to support for life. "You had me now you can support me". Obama has that same mentality, if your not already rich, Americans will support you and you don't even have to be a legal citizen..We'll just borrow more money from China, and your great-grand-children will pay it back.
  • John Hall 2012/07/13 21:59:10
    No
    John Hall
    +5
    In my world you don't work you don't eat . If you receive welfare you should work ( community service) I think this is why we have so many on welfare we make it to damn easy .
  • Mel the Witch POTL PWCM~JLA 2012/07/13 21:48:39
    No
    Mel the Witch POTL PWCM~JLA
    +3
    This P.O.S. will do anything to buy the vote. The "Bama" simply says "F*** the country...
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/07/13 21:05:31
    No
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +4
    A good move for the country? No. It teaches people to be lazy.

    A good move for Obama and his Cloward-Piven plans? Yes. That's the idea.
  • ProudPr... Temlako... 2012/07/13 21:08:27
    ProudProgressive
    +1
    It doesn't teach people to be lazy since it is NOT a waiver of the work requirement. They are merely looking into the possibility of waiving some of the SPECIFIC work rules IF a state comes up with viable alternative ways to provide these people with work.
  • Temlako... ProudPr... 2012/07/14 03:04:40
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +2
    Spinning like a top, as usual.
  • Arel 2012/07/13 20:59:42
    No
    Arel
    +3
    Not for America but then this isn't about what is best for our country this is about getting votes.
  • Schläue~© 2012/07/13 20:57:15 (edited)
    No
    Schläue~©
    +3
    "Getting a free ride in America had become far too burdensome so I had to cancel some reforms, energize and expand the Democrat voting bloc."

    "Damn .... I love this pen"
  • ProudProgressive 2012/07/13 20:56:07
    No
    ProudProgressive
    Don't you folks even bother to read your own articles before you totally distort and lie about what they say? There is no proposal for waiving the work requirement under TANF.

    "States will not be able to escape the work requirements of the landmark 1996 federal welfare reform law, the administration said, but they may get federal approval to try to accomplish the same goals by using different methods than those spelled out in the legislation."

    What part of "STATES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ESCAPE THE WORK REQUIREMENTS" is too difficult for you to understand?
  • ComeOnNow ProudPr... 2012/07/13 21:02:09
    ComeOnNow
    +2
    Come on, we know what it is really about. Buying votes from lazy democrats.
  • ProudPr... ComeOnNow 2012/07/13 21:07:13
    ProudProgressive
    Democrats aren't the lazy ones. Democrats have been trying to create jobs for the people who need them so we won't have many people on welfare. Republicans seem to want to put 99% of the country out of work.
  • ComeOnNow ProudPr... 2012/07/13 21:41:25
    ComeOnNow
    +1
    Ha ha ha ha. Democrats want too kill jobs through taxes and innovations for hand outs so they do not have to take personal responsibility. Don't you remember them crying about even paying $9 per month for their own birth control? We see right through you.
  • HOMBRE 2012/07/13 20:49:31 (edited)
    No
    HOMBRE
    +2
    WHAT A DIC HEAD
  • Aurora 2012/07/13 20:43:25
    No
    Aurora
    +1
    But it will be to his voter base.

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