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Obama lawyer to yours truly: take down your video! Shall I comply?

Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/04/18 21:29:37
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The Obama eligibility case took a nasty turn today. Lawyers for the
Obama campaign demanded that videos of a New Jersey administrative-law
trial come down. Those same lawyers admitted that they had removed their
associate, Alexandra Hill, from the case.


The Obama eligibility case in New Jersey

Last Tuesday, the case of Purpura and Moran v. Obama, STE
4534-12, came to trial before Administrative Law Judge Jeff S. Masin.
Nick Purpura of Wall, NJ, and Ted Moran of Toms River, NJ, said that
Barack H. Obama should not appear on the ballot of the June 5 New Jersey Democratic Primary. They gave two reasons:


  1. Obama has never shown that he was born in Hawaii, or even who he is.
  2. Obama cannot qualify to be President because his father was a British colonial subject.

CNAV recorded the hearing. So, too, did Dan Haggerty of The
Baer-Haggerty Offensive, a radio program that runs each Wednesday
afternoon at Re-patriot Radio (WNJC, AM 1360).


Judge Masin concluded that Obama had not “failed in any obligation” to make any
showing, either of his identity or that he was a natural-born citizen.
Mario Apuzzo, attorney for Purpura and Moran, confirmed to CNAV that they will still appeal that conclusion.


But the part that has excited observers nationwide happened in the
second hour of the hearing. Alexandra M. Hill, of Genova, Burns,
Giantomasi and Webster, represented the Obama campaign at the hearing.
Apuzzo called Brian Wilcox, an Internet document expert, to the stand,
to attack the Obama birth certificate document that the White House
served to the Internet on April 27, 2011. Ms. Hill then said that the
PDF document was irrelevant to the case at hand, and conceded that Obama never once
gave his birth certificate, or any good copy of it, hard or soft, to
the New Jersey Secretary of State or the Division of Elections. Hill
then claimed that New Jersey law did not force Obama to give anything
to qualify himself for a primary ballot, and that New Jersey residents
could nominate Mickey Mouse if they could get enough signatures to
nominate him.


The Tea Party Tribune, and other media organs quoting them, construed
this as saying that Alexandra Hill “admitted that the Obama birth
certificate is a forgery.” That is not correct. But she clearly did
damage enough to the Obama eligibility argument, and embarrassed the
Obama campaign. Recent events have made this abundantly clear.


Obama lawyers demand: Take down those videos!
Mario Apuzzo, arguing the latest Obama eligibility challenge

Mario Apuzzo walks toward the Office of Administrative Law with his two clients. Photo: CNAV.


Jerome R. Corsi made the latest Obama eligibility issue famous with this story about the hearing. Then, on Tuesday afternoon, Alexandra Hill’s boss called Mario Apuzzo directly. CNAV heard first from Nick Purpura and then directly from Apuzzo.


Apuzzo received a call from a man identifying himself as Angelo Genova, the lead partner
of Genova, Burns, Giantomasi and Webster. Genova was agitated and
almost overwrought. He demanded to know why Apuzzo had videotaped the
proceedings (a thing Apuzzo did not do), and then said that he would
“move to strike the video from the record.” Genova also said that:


  • Alexandra M. Hill is not working on the case of Purpura and Moran v. Obama any longer. Angelo Genova has taken that case over and is handling it personally.
  • Death threats have come to the firm. Apuzzo told CNAV that Ms. Hill was the main target of these threats. Billy Baer also talked to Apuzzo, after CNAV
    called Dan Haggerty for comment. Apuzzo apparently told Baer that
    Genova never made clear whether the threatening person was threatening
    Ms. Hill alone or “the firm in general,” whatever that might mean.

Apuzzo offered to Genova to condemn the threats for the record, on his blog.
Genova hastily declined. He then dwelt at length on the making of the
video or videos and accused Apuzzo of making them without the court’s
permission.


For the record

CNAV has long suspected that the Obama eligibility case has
stalled because some person or persons is/are applying pressure to
witnesses and media organs to keep quiet. Now CNAV finds itself a direct target, as is the Baer-Haggerty Offensive.


CNAV emphasizes that Mario Apuzzo did not commission CNAV to record the video footage of the Obama eligibility hearing. Neither did he so commission Baer or Haggerty, as both men confirmed to CNAV today.


The New Jersey Administrative Code says that anyone may
record a public hearing. The judge may restrict such recording so that
it does not disrupt the hearing. On April 10, before the hearing began,
Judge Masin summoned Apuzzo and Hill to his chambers. There, as Apuzzo
said later, the judge asked about persons wanting to record the hearings
on video. Apuzzo knew that CNAV and Dan Haggerty had brought
cameras. He had also given an interview to Station WHYY-TV (Channel 12,
Philadelphia, PA), who told him they would come to the hearing. Judge
Masin said that he would allow video cameras, so long as their operators
mounted them on fixed tripod stands. Haggerty and CNAV agreed to this. (See also Commander Kerchner’s blog entry.)


CNAV and Haggerty recorded the entire hearing. WHYY-TV came in late, recorded for five minutes, then left.


Thus Judge Masin, acting according to law, let CNAV
and Dan Haggerty record the hearing. At least, both our sets of videos
are citizen observations of public hearings. They are also work products
of the press. Therefore, the US Constitution and
New Jersey law protect this content. For Genova to try to suppress this
content a week after the fact is the silliest moment in the entire
Obama eligibility saga. No court can “strike the content from the
record,” because the content is not part of any court record. Nor can
anyone enjoin a citizen journalist, or any other citizen, from recording a public hearing.


CNAV condemns, in the strongest possible terms, any threat that anyone makes against any
lawyer, journalist, or other person taking part in the political or
legal process, recording it for posterity, or simply watching it. This
applies especially to any threats that anyone might or might not have
made to Alexandra M. Hill or any member or employee of Genova, Burns,
Giantomasi and Webster.


But CNAV also knows its rights under the Constitution and New Jersey law. Therefore, CNAV will not remove any video footage
that it took at the New Jersey Obama eligibility hearing. Baer and
Haggerty confirmed that they will not remove their footage, either.

Herewith the footage that has Lawyer Genova's boxers in a wad:

Read More: http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2012/04/18...

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  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/04/18 21:38:54
    No
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +37
    No, I will NOT comply with this arrogant, unfounded, ridiculous, and downright silly demand that someone is making, and not even knowing whom to make it to. I was a citizen journalist, making a perfectly permissible recording of a public hearing under NJAC 1:1 Section D. What's more, the judge gave his permission, and I distinctly heard him give it. For this lawyer to start burning up the phone lines A WEEK AFTER THE FACT is the stupidest thing that any lawyer on the whole Obama eligibility controversy has ever done. (So don't talk to me about Orly Taitz! Whatever you think of her, she never tried to pull a stunt like this.)

    But the real stunner is that Alexandra Hill got thrown off the case. This after a bunch of O-bots called that firm to complain about her performance. Play my video and you'll see what I'm talking about, and what caused all the excitement.

    (And before anybody asks: no, I do NOT condone anyone making death threats against Miss Hill, and I don't care WHO IT IS.)

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  • dispatcher 2012/04/19 15:52:07
    No
    dispatcher
    +5
    Screw them, there is no violations & the fact remains, MILLIONS OF AMERICANS STILL BELIEVE OBAMA IS NOT ELIGABLE TO BE PRESIDENT !!!
  • Tammy A... dispatcher 2012/04/19 17:00:12
    Tammy Ambos
    +1
    So your point is that millions of Americans are unbelievably stupid? I agree. Anyone who thinks Obama is not eligible to be president is an idiot! Thanks!
  • dispatcher Tammy A... 2012/04/19 17:08:35
    dispatcher
    +3
    No many AMERICANS BELIEVE HE IS A FRAUD & A NO GOOD LYING SOCIALIST SCUMBAG THUG who DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION OR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

    OMG = OBAMA MUST GO !!!!
  • stadium status 2012/04/19 15:45:03
    No
    stadium status
  • The Black Dagger 2012/04/19 15:44:48
    No
    The Black Dagger
    +8
    Do not comply or you will be giving these dictator wannabes what they want. Silence.
  • nverumind 2012/04/19 15:32:11
    No
    nverumind
    +6
    no you shall not comply..and if there is no "valid" evidence stating that he is not a US citizen and he IS in fact an eligable Candidate than he shouldnt be so worried as to try and intimidate in order to have this removed .. keep on keep on ..let freedom ring and when the time comes..let him be tried and prosecuted for his crimes against america! obama is an imposter
  • stadium... nverumind 2012/04/19 16:06:31
    stadium status
    +2
    wonder what Donald Trump is saying now
  • nverumind stadium... 2012/04/19 16:15:15
    nverumind
    +3
    no idea... but this is only one..state! we need everyone to get involved ..because one state can be silenced if we all get involved BIG Government will have no choice but to listen! Yes its a very liberal state and if he loses his name on NJ ballot ..lol itll be a big setback!
  • Izariel 2012/04/19 15:29:29
    No
    Izariel
    +4
    It's a matter of public record. Unless they have a court order then you have no obligation to take it down. Send it to the news for good measure.
  • bluelady 2012/04/19 15:28:53
    No
    bluelady
    +5
    first ammendament, Obamination...I know you dont care for the Constitution,...but there it is
  • The Bla... bluelady 2012/04/19 15:46:39 (edited)
    The Black Dagger
    +3
    Actually the Obama-Nation does care for the First Ammendment...






    Providing they agree with what's said first. ;)
  • bluelady The Bla... 2012/04/19 19:34:23
  • Stacy F 2012/04/19 15:02:07
    No
    Stacy F
    +4
    Stay the course! No laws have been violated, so keep the video posted. More people need to see this!
  • cindy 2012/04/19 14:59:26
    No
    cindy
    +2
    Ask yourself this ? If you have nothing to ( HIDE why not send it with your Lawyer who represents you, to prove its the real thing right there in Court ....................
  • niviongo R ☮ P ☮ 12-20 2012/04/19 14:15:27
    No
    niviongo R ☮ P ☮ 12-20
    +4
    Keep it up and on.!
  • Bella 2012/04/19 14:15:20
    Undecided
    Bella
    +2
    Birthers just go on and on and on
  • The Bla... Bella 2012/04/19 15:47:42
    The Black Dagger
    +5
    It really eggs you on that they might be right and all your new freebies get taken away.
  • Bella The Bla... 2012/04/19 16:05:07
    Bella
    +2
    Like I said, Birthers go on and on and on...they have no facts, but go on and on and on.
  • The Bla... Bella 2012/04/19 16:15:17 (edited)
    The Black Dagger
    +4
    But none of you have presented facts to counter the birthers' "supposed" facts. You've presented nothing but more of the same labeling and ridiculous hatred because they do not agree with you. And no, all the supposed documents have already been shown to be falacies so you cannot argue that point either.

    So it simply comes down to this, who is right?

    You, because you say so? Or the birthers because they say so?

    EDIT: And you know damn good and well Obama could clear this up in a heartbeat. So let me ask you, if he's clean with nothing to hide, why doesn't he just show and tell?
  • Bella The Bla... 2012/04/19 17:39:56
    Bella
    +1
    LOL. Birthers have no facts. Don't attack me then accuse me of "hatred." Fact is the BC has been provided, birthers just don't like it.
  • The Bla... Bella 2012/04/19 17:49:18
    The Black Dagger
    Which has also been shown by MANY reliable sources, to be a fraud.

    Simply use google. You know google. It was started by a pair of Liberals so you know they will offer up no Conservative bias.

    You are a hater because your deity is under attack by people who follow the rule of law instead of the rule of Bella. So you label them, make fun, name-call and so on.

    And frankly, while I am skeptical of the birther motives, you and high lord Obama still have unequivocally failed to prove your case despite your lame attempts.

    Funny how the court of public opinion slashes you when it's not your agenda.

    Can you say Zimmerman? I knew you could.
  • Bella The Bla... 2012/04/19 18:03:37
    Bella
    +1
    The BC has never been proven to be a fraud, no matter how much you birthers want it to be a fraud it's the real thing. It's been certified by the state of Hawaii and so has the copy. Don't attack me then Call me the "hater" it's the birthers who carry hate.
  • The Bla... Bella 2012/04/20 11:03:11
    The Black Dagger
    Really? Obama's own attorney, Alexandra Hill, said it was a fake.

    Is she a birther?
  • Bella The Bla... 2012/04/20 16:00:03
    Bella
    Provide the quote, not opinion articles...LOL good luck
  • Stacy F Bella 2012/04/20 02:31:47
    Stacy F
    WHICH birth certificate?
    This one?
    obama birth certificate

    or this one?
    obama s birth certificate

    or is it this one?
    barack obama birth certificate

    or is it THIS one?
    obama kenya birth certificate

    Sorry, I had to throw that last one in for comedic relief, lol!

    Seriously, though, why HASN'T Obama cleared this up? Why did he have ALL of his records SEALED? It created too much scrutiny, and controversy. More importantly, it created too much skepticism, and DISTRUST. He has only himself to blame for this problem.
  • Bella Stacy F 2012/04/20 03:16:23
    Bella
    Obama doesn't have to clear anything up birther, all documentation was provided prior to the 2008 election, end of story. Only birthers reject these facts
  • Stacy F Bella 2012/04/20 03:46:37
    Stacy F
    +1
    Oh, the hostility! Try being civil.
    NO, Obama did NOT provide all of his documentation. As a matter of fact, he STILL hasn't disclosed all of his documentation from when he was a State Senator in Illinois.
    I'm not rejecting any "facts", since you haven't provided any. The only person rejecting anything is you.
  • Bella Stacy F 2012/04/20 03:53:02
    Bella
    Excuse me??? Just because you don't accept (reject) Obama's documentation as fact doesn't make it any less legal.
  • Stacy F Bella 2012/04/20 04:02:45
    Stacy F
    I am not accepting nor rejecting anything. As I said, you haven't provided any facts. What FACTS do you have to support your comments?
    Or, instead, let me ask you this... How many birth certificates do YOU have? I only have one. Why does Obama need more than that?

    Whether you believe it or not, this is a legitimate question. Can you provide the FACTS to substantiate your opinions?
  • Bella Stacy F 2012/04/20 04:23:46
    Bella
    You don't need me, Obama's BC is on line. My opinion is irrelevant, Obama is the legally elected POTUS.
  • Stacy F Bella 2012/04/20 04:29:03
    Stacy F
    "My opinion is irrelevant,..." Hey! YOU said it, not me! ;)
  • Bella Stacy F 2012/04/20 04:45:31
    Bella
    IDoesn't matter what my opinion is about the presiden'ts eligibility because it's already been determined.
  • Stacy F The Bla... 2012/04/20 02:10:11
    Stacy F
    +1
    My thoughts, exactly.
  • Tammy A... Bella 2012/04/19 17:02:43
    Tammy Ambos
    +2
    They are idiots. They are so full of hate and so stupid that they believe all the ridiculous lies they hear on FAUX news. It's almost a shame that intelligence is not a pre-requisite to voting.
  • The Bla... Tammy A... 2012/04/19 17:08:08
    The Black Dagger
    *Begin sarcasm*

    Ooooh. A backpat between Liberals. That's new.

    *End Sarcasm*
  • "Shoote... Tammy A... 2012/04/19 17:12:43
    "Shooter" E-7 ™
    +1
    how is that algae in your car gas tank working out for you??
  • Bella Tammy A... 2012/04/19 17:41:08
    Bella
    So true.
  • Eastexn25 Tammy A... 2012/04/19 17:53:02
    Eastexn25
    +2
    FAUX news?? Fox News says Obamas birth certificate is not real? HHmm here they are putting out a story from 'another expert' claiming it is not a fraud and is legitimate. This is an example of a reliable news source being balanced. You wouldn't know that since you seem biased yourself.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politi...
  • Stacy F Bella 2012/04/20 02:09:27
    Stacy F
    Well, on that note, Obama hasn't shown anyone any "facts", either... has he?
  • Bella Stacy F 2012/04/20 03:17:11
    Bella
    Only birthers reject the facts

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