Obama Helping Mexico Drug War: Should he renew the gun ban instead?
President Barack Obama is helping Mexico fight their drug war by stepping up enforcement of laws that ban the transfer of assault weapons across the border. This was instead of reinstating the US a...
President Barack Obama is helping Mexico fight their drug war by stepping up enforcement of laws that ban the transfer of assault weapons across the border. This was instead of reinstating the US assault weapon ban. During Obama campaign days, he pledged that he would try to get the gun ban renewed, but has decided that enforcing laws on the Mexico border was a better choice. Even Mexican President Felipe Calderon wanted Obama to reinstate the gun ban.
Should Obama have reinstated the gun ban, or do you agree with his choice to step up enforcement laws on the Mexican border? (more)
Should Obama have reinstated the gun ban, or do you agree with his choice to step up enforcement laws on the Mexican border? (more)
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Obama is right in trying to help stop the mexican drug war.
However, he'll go about it all wrong. The US military has several special forces units that could do a lot of good if just given a goal and the tools; don't tell them how, just what, and my "whats" are: stop drugs and illegal immigrants *before* they get into the US, and keep trade routes open and free of pirates.
As far a government regulation of our guns, the only gun law we need, the absolute one and only is The Second Amendment to The Constitution of The United States of America!
Obama is right in trying to help stop the mexican drug war.
Obama wants to do the gun ban too. He will try. But look, why is it America's fault for the demand for the drugs and America's fault for the supply of the drugs? You can't have it both ways.Look at how gun control has worked down in mexico! It hasn't worked at all. The only armed people are the ones willing to break the law to get them.
The Brady Bill didn't stop one single crime. Not one. Even the most far left don't dare challenge that fact.
Obama has claimed that 90% of the illegal guns are coming from America. The Mexican Gov't has refused to tell us what the serial numbers on the guns are. HE MADE THAT NUMBER UP! There is no way to know. The majority of the guns that are being used are AK-47s and they are coming by the boat load straight from China.
Why didn't Obama just renew the gun ban and step up Mexican border enforcement?
....but didn't we just send these guys to Iraq? More patrols on our soil will help this problem.Obama is right in trying to help stop the mexican drug war.
The gun ban has been in effect for years, but we all know nothing has really changed. Banning guns and letting the drug war continue will meaningless. If we want a solution, we should go to the source and in this case, the source is the drug war.Obama is right in trying to help stop the mexican drug war.
If indeed The Great O is going to help Mexico win the war over the highly armed drug thugs hw is doing the right thing. If he is going to convince the Mexican government to lay down their arms as a gesture of good will to the drug thugs he will be showing his true George Soros colors.One of the best ways to keep the drug thugs from crossing the border would be to supply all border ranchers with assault rifles and announcing a policy of encouraging the killing of anyone sneaking across the border.
Why didn't Obama just renew the gun ban and step up Mexican border enforcement?
But for goodness sakes, lets win the drug war in Mexico like NOW. So many countries are starting to line up to sell drugs to us they had to install the ticket system from the deli. "Now serving..." *grin*Obama is right in trying to help stop the mexican drug war.
he can do whateva he wants as long as he helps usObama is right in trying to help stop the mexican drug war.
it's better to keep this on the south side and work to put a lid on this if possible at all. We would not want to have citzens of the U.S. being killed on this for being at the wrong place and timeObama is right in trying to help stop the mexican drug war.
The laws that are already on the books SHOULD BE ENFORCED first, before any new laws are put in place.Our border would be secure and safe if the Govt. would just follow the laws they enacted.
Obama is right in trying to help stop the mexican drug war.
I think the obvious solution has nothing to do with unconstitutionally trying to strip Second Amendment protections from Americans. Decriminalizing drugs would remove the biggest reason the Mexican drug war is happening: The promise of obscene amounts of profits.Don
I fully support your idea that I have the right to own surface to air missiles (as well as other types of missiles), sophisticated sattelite technology, fighter jets and helicopter gunships. It won't stop tyranny all by itself, but it's not a bad place to start.
You are obviously anti-gun and are under-informed on the issue. Obama is vehemently anti-gun as is Joe Biden. Banning guns will only do the same as what banning drugs has accomplished. They will simply go underground in the black market. Then they will be more available to criminals. Also, the only people who would not abide by these laws are the people that you're trying to take then from. If you look at the statistics on Concealed carry; you will find that after every state that has passed their CCW law, crime went down. The places with the highest crime is where you will find rising crime. It's not rocket science. True gun control is using both hands to steady your hold. The person who said to just legalize drugs hit the mark straight on. There is a silver lining doing that. Tax the drugs, stop socialism, and get the budget under control.
Don
I have nothing against guns. I have often fired them, including a 45, a 12 gage pump and a 30 aught 6. My brother is a marksman and I'm a fair shot myself. I have no intention of taking his toys away from him or your toys from you.
As for socialism or communism or tyranny goes, where were you when George Bush was president? For 8 years not a peep out of anyone as the former president turned us into a Stalinesque police state. I won't argue that all of our civil liberties, not merely the second amendment are still at risk. But if you think a republican controlled military police state will continue to allow you to keep your guns you are mistaken. And giving mo... Just because I think someone buying a gun should be properly screened before they buy a gun does not make me anti gun, though I would argue who besides a criminal would need an assault rifle? Also criminals aren't allowed to have guns yet they still get them, usually as stolen goods from legal gun owners. And just like illegal drugs people get illegal guns. I do agree the war on drugs is a canard and I support legalization. Just like the lift on prohibition in the 1930's it would take away any need for criminal street gangs to be shooting up our towns and cities. It would render the drug cartels out of business overnight.
I have nothing against guns. I have often fired them, including a 45, a 12 gage pump and a 30 aught 6. My brother is a marksman and I'm a fair shot myself. I have no intention of taking his toys away from him or your toys from you.
As for socialism or communism or tyranny goes, where were you when George Bush was president? For 8 years not a peep out of anyone as the former president turned us into a Stalinesque police state. I won't argue that all of our civil liberties, not merely the second amendment are still at risk. But if you think a republican controlled military police state will continue to allow you to keep your guns you are mistaken. And giving money and tax breaks to power wealth is corporate socialism or as Mussolini used to put it, corporatism. Another term is fascism. Makes me wonder if anyone on the right even knows what socialism or communism is, or what the difference is between the two. (more)
Obama is right in trying to help stop the mexican drug war.
If you knew your facts and not listen to the leftist news it's already been proven that he amount of drug guns are less than 15% that the drug lords have that came from the USA. Many American guns in fact came from the Mexican Military when the United States sold them weapons in the 1990's to fight these drug lords.Our 2nd amendment rights are far more important. Obama is looking to take our guns away and he sure won't right now when he's trying to get his health care plan pulled over on us.
Our guns aren't the problem...and our whole nation shouldn't be pentalized because someone is feeding the freezy so they can find a way to take our guns away.
We aren't fools. Obama keeps letting the illegals in here in the first place. Send them home and protect our own country first.
He's acting like a dictator anyway.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/0...
The New York Times(which is not mine) is major media and in spite of what Rupert Murdoch, a foreigner no less tells you about them they are still sponsored corporate media. I would tell you to visit the Center for Public Integrity or other credible sources to prove this point and show who is actually behind major media everywhere. But of course to many news is based upon political ideology rather than reality.
The NYTimes is going bankrupt....good thing they've turned into a Rag to wipe streaks off the window with as the content isn't any better than Star magazine. Star at least tells us they are lying.
Obama is right in trying to help stop the mexican drug war.
We have been to war with Mexico more than any other country. Both world wars, Mexico were allied with first the Kiaser and second, the Nazis. We should lock the border and consider that anyone crossing any where but a legalport of call, would be invading, subject to live fire. I have no problems with LEGAL immigration, but the illegals and the drug running has to stop.Obama and his croneys have wanted to ban all forms of firearms for years. They know that they cannot achieve their version of the perfect socialist society while the lower class have the means to resist them. I hope and pray that we can stop them this time. (But even if we do, their ugly heads will rear up again in the future)
Obama should have renewed the US assault weapong gun ban instead.
This is to excuse the pun, a loaded question because first off Obama should ban the sales of assault rifles. Even Barry Goldwater supported that idea! We have witnessed first hand and in real time the results of people owning assault weapons. But the truth is Obama will never reinstate that ban because to do so is political suicide. That is why today there are more than 65 pro gun house democrats who are siding with their republican counterparts. The democrats saw the assault ban in political losses in the congress back when Clinton was president and they have made the adjustment. All this fear mongering about Obama or the democrats permanently banning all guns is complete bullshit manifested by idiots like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Mike Savage.I would further add that this drug war is in reality America's drug war not Mexico's. We are the ones who declared an international war on drugs back when Nixon was president. Since then the need for illegal drugs have consistently grown( We are the number one consumer of illegal drugs in the world) along with the wealth and power of the cartels who get 95% of their weapons from the United States which of course is great for US munitions manufacturers. Of course munitions are America's number one export so really none of this sho... This is to excuse the pun, a loaded question because first off Obama should ban the sales of assault rifles. Even Barry Goldwater supported that idea! We have witnessed first hand and in real time the results of people owning assault weapons. But the truth is Obama will never reinstate that ban because to do so is political suicide. That is why today there are more than 65 pro gun house democrats who are siding with their republican counterparts. The democrats saw the assault ban in political losses in the congress back when Clinton was president and they have made the adjustment. All this fear mongering about Obama or the democrats permanently banning all guns is complete bullshit manifested by idiots like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Mike Savage.
I would further add that this drug war is in reality America's drug war not Mexico's. We are the ones who declared an international war on drugs back when Nixon was president. Since then the need for illegal drugs have consistently grown( We are the number one consumer of illegal drugs in the world) along with the wealth and power of the cartels who get 95% of their weapons from the United States which of course is great for US munitions manufacturers. Of course munitions are America's number one export so really none of this should come as much of a surprise.
The war on drugs is a complete failure, except for the three strikes folks, the gun manufacturers and the corporations who profit from our justice system and dole out tons in campaign finance to the very people whose interest lies in a continued drug problem. They and apparently the cartels have been the only real winners.
Obama certainly does have other options. What he ought to do is the exact same thing FDR did back in the 1930's. Appeal prohibition. Then make sure these drugs are manufactured under the guidelines of the FDA, tax their sales and use the proceeds for health care, rehabilitation and education. This would put a complete end to drug smuggling and an end to the war on drugs. In fact it would make our city street much safer then they are today.
Since Obama won't dare move in that direction, his only option is to further commit to the failed war on drugs in the hope if will prevent further escalation into the US. Well the truth is it already has escalated in the form of the gang wars that are exploding in every city in the nation. All of them vying for domination and control of the drugs smuggled in. This trend will only continue to get worse if we stay the course and that appears to be exactly what Obama and all of his predecessors since Nixon has in mind. All those military operations that have been going on for decades in Latin America and costing the taxpayers tens of billions of dollars have not stopped the drug cartels. In fact here they are banging on our doors. You would think by now we would have learned our lesson but the truth is the war on drugs is very profitable for the few and devastating for everyone else who foots the bill. (more)
You're completely confused. Both the illegal gun trade and the illegal drug trade are equal problems. The reason the gun problem exists is that there are bans on drugs. Banning guns and legalizing drugs will just make guns the new black market item. Keeping them both legal is the answer. Guns are the "Teeth" of American freedom. The "Bill of Rights" did not create rights, it enumerated those that were cornerstones of freedom. They are protections from a totalitarian government.
BTW: The so called assault weapons ban did not ban any assault weapons; it banned legal semi-automatic sporting guns that simply looked like an assault weapon. The difference is not appearance it's about their functionality. Assault weapons are full automatic. Not one gun on their list was full automatic. These have been severely restricted since 1934 by F. D. Roosevelt. Gun control has had the inverse effect that was intended. It has served criminals safety not citizens safety.
Don
Obama is right in trying to help stop the mexican drug war.
Obama is trying to take away all our guns.Then with the economy in the shitter, and only criminals with guns, WE are going to be the new Mexico and have our own gang murders on a daily basis and all the trouble they have south of the border will be here!
IS this the CHANGE folks wanted?
All folks could see was the color of his skin and couldn't see the lies that so many could see but everyone else said poo poo. The change is coming. Hopes it's what you voted for.