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Obama Has 21 Days to Drop Biden: Would Dumping Biden Signal Desperation?

Fef 2012/08/16 22:00:00
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President Obama has a lot of pressure to dump Vice President Joe Biden from the 2012 election campaign. Biden would not likely run for president in 2016 at the age of 73. Biden, a former Senator from Delaware, doesn't help with voters in the swing states like Florida, Virginia, Ohio or Pennsylvania. And Biden continues to bore people except with his gaffes ("20th Century") or outlandish rhetoric (accusing Republicans of enslaving people).

President Obama could shake things up by replacing Biden with Secretary Hillary Clinton as his vice president on his 2012 re-election ticket. Some pundits argue that would signal desperation by the Obama 2012 campaign because it would look as if Obama made a bad choice in picking Biden in 2008. Dumping Biden would only happen in desperation.

Then again, maybe President Obama would dump Biden for a candidate like Hillary Clinton because even Biden considers her more qualified for vice president (watch the video).

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  • Roger 2012/08/19 15:24:31
    Yes
    Roger
    +3
    He is gone either way
  • wale63 2012/08/19 15:10:45
    Yes
    wale63
    +5
    Imam Obama has NOTHING left except desparation as he has NO record to run on and it's obvious to the public.
    Andy
  • Bevos 2012/08/19 11:34:15 (edited)
    Yes
    Bevos
    +4
    But he won't dump Biden. Biden is dumb enough to do whatever owebama tells him to. He is the perfect pet for owebama!
  • jc Bevos 2012/08/19 17:36:46
  • Bevos jc 2012/08/20 16:04:49
    Bevos
    +1
    LOL!!!
  • Lanikai Bevos 2012/08/20 17:29:02
    Lanikai
    And job REALLY wants all those perks that go with being a retired VP-free money, free security, free travel, free pretty much anything.
  • Bevos Lanikai 2012/08/21 14:28:54
    Bevos
    The HIGHER ECHELON of WELFARE!!! That is another thing that needs to be stopped. We need to get the vote back into the hands of the people.
  • darthtbone 2012/08/19 11:32:24
    Yes
    darthtbone
    +2
    I don't know who else he would pick. I mean last time John Edwards was a contender, but I think he has baggage. Pelosi and Reid are almost as reviled as Obama. At least people can laugh at Biden. He's like the Michael Scott of politics.

    Rumor has it that he asked Hillary Clinton and that she refused. I suppose, that Obama really wouldn't like to spend the next few years having people check his food for him.
  • bmacklowe darthtbone 2012/08/20 07:40:19
    bmacklowe
    +1
    You think he has baggage? Is that the understatement of the year or what?
  • darthtbone bmacklowe 2012/08/25 11:25:41
    darthtbone
    +1
    Yes that was a joke.
  • ProVega 2012/08/19 10:53:16
    Yes
    ProVega
    +3
    I meant to click on NO. He won't because they have nothing to be desperate about.
  • TheTruth1313 2012/08/19 06:48:03
    Yes
    TheTruth1313
    +1
    Amongst other things.
  • CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY 2012/08/19 06:19:18
    Yes
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +3
    How you Progressive Democrats can keep straight faces as we near this election is beyond me.

    I predict an epic, historic landslide sized election defeat for Obama and crew IF we can keep the progressive voter fraud to a minimum. We're on to you vermin, and we're watching. Unlike in 2008.

    BHO = WORST.PRESIDENT.EVER
  • luke CUDDLY ... 2012/08/20 19:49:11
    luke
    +1
    YEP BUT THE DEMON-RATS CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH EVER
  • Dave 2012/08/19 05:41:01
    Yes
    Dave
    +1
    This is a crazy poll. lol Why would he dump Biden? Biden speaks the truth, and states the things that Obama can't say without being ridiculed (even more than he is).

    I love Joe Biden.

    Now - Mittens - boy! That's a whole different story. The Republicons are doing what they did with W. The actual presidential candidate is Paul Ryan - Mittens is only a spokesperson. Ryan will be the mastermind behind the presidency - just like Cheney.
  • CUDDLY ... Dave 2012/08/19 06:20:45
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +3
    Just like Obama ...... the "acting" president. The "real" President is factually Valerie Jarrett.

  • Lanikai CUDDLY ... 2012/08/20 17:30:34
    Lanikai
    +1
    Yep, except she did not have the presidential balls to make the SHOT BL call either. Panetta had to do it.
  • Dave CUDDLY ... 2012/08/24 05:30:28
    Dave
    Wow! And where did you stumble across this woman --- Limbaugh or Beck?
  • CUDDLY ... Dave 2012/08/26 04:52:56
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    No stumble. I saw it when it ran live, and You Tubed it for historical perspective.
  • luke Dave 2012/08/20 19:52:30
    luke
    SMOKE SOME MORE OF UR SH#T OR DRINK SOME MORE KOOL-AID ANY WAY U LIKE IT .. U CAN NOT HANDLE THE TRUTH ABOUT HIS ADM.. CAN U? & THE HARM HE HAS CAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.. FACTS R FACTS & U CAN NOT HANDLE THE TRUTH CAN U?
  • Dave luke 2012/08/24 05:31:48 (edited)
    Dave
    I have no problem with Joe Biden, but I'm not a fan of Obama. I like Biden - he speaks the truth.

    You're funny! That was a good Jack Nicholson impersonation.
  • Skye 2012/08/19 05:11:57 (edited)
    No
    Skye
    +3
    Though of course the majority of people on this website are republicans... So it's pretty much biased to be asked on this website.
  • Bevos Skye 2012/08/19 11:49:26
    Bevos
    +2
    Why? Democrats come on here all of the time and speak their minds. As long as they are respectful, nobody bothers them. Several even have some pretty good conversations on here with us Conservatives. But others come on here spewing vile insults, and then they get them right back.
    Sodaheads has a LOT of Democrats as well as Republicans and Independents. Probably as many as. Fef wrote the article so it is his feed. I have never even heard of him so I don't even know what his political affiliations are. I was on another feed this morn, written by an obvious Liberal, and his poll went way against him. So make up your own mind.
  • taitaFa... Bevos 2012/08/19 12:04:49 (edited)
    taitaFalcon23
    heh, that's not true, I come on hear to hear GOP talking points... other than that, it's mostly pure drivel. I am a 20 yr vet, gunowner and small biz operator. If I agree to anything that even remotely makes common sense - I get called almost unlimited names because I have the balls to say I'm a demo on a conservo leaning site. Truth is, I'm a country loving American that supports the constitution and watch as psuedo patriots refused to help my 2 sons with military service. For my 2 son's, 198 of their peers sit out and just watch and then talk about who's *ss WE should kick next
  • Bevos taitaFa... 2012/08/19 13:47:02
    Bevos
    +2
    Why would anybody call you names if you agree with them? And I do not understand your last statements either. Who is refusing to help your 2 sons and what kind of help do they need?
  • taitaFa... Bevos 2012/08/19 17:44:17
    taitaFalcon23
    because people have 'all or nothing' mentalities. Either take their political principles or 'be the enemy'. I often get accused of being a repub because - for a demo, I have conservo viewpoints.

    The fact is, both the extreme versions of both sides are equally unrealistic. On the right, there are always going to be 10% that didn't get the word. They will have failed to plan on some level for something. On the left - there are always going to be some unfortunates who miss out - we can't save them all from themselves. As for military service, in my time as in my sons' there are the sick, lame and lazy who fail to show up when their country calls. Nothing new - just noted. Even in WWII the rate was about 21% or about 10.5 times higher than what we currently field
  • Bevos taitaFa... 2012/08/20 16:10:44
    Bevos
    I don't have an all or nothing mentality. Nor do most that I converse with on here. There are a LOT of people on here that are Democrats that are very unhappy with owebama and what he is doing. They are conservative Dems. They are respectful of me and I am of them. When someone comes on telling me how stupid I am for thinking for myself, I tell them how stupid they are for saying it.
  • taitaFa... Bevos 2012/08/21 04:18:37
    taitaFalcon23
    That is all fine for you; but your view is not my experience on this site. I don't particularly like this president any more than any other president. But I'm not disaffected anymore so that I trust the opposite party all of a sudden.

    Look, the right is so pissed and angry - they can't get past the 'I got mine...'; screw yours' attitudes. And the left is so caught up in their psuedo superiority, that the elites figure socialism is all good except for them. To tell the truth, I'm sick of the both of them. I'm just sick of them......I'd like to stay retreate to my little small socal house with the veggie garden, solar panels, wells, barely paved road that gets here and not bother with anybody
  • Bevos taitaFa... 2012/08/21 14:36:35 (edited)
    Bevos
    +1
    We haven't gotten ANYTHING since owebama got in
    If you are attacked, constantly, maybe it is because you come on and attack. I don't know. The right wants more people on their side, so why would they just attack a potential voter, for no reason?
    The Right is trying to bring people back together. The left is tearing them apart. So you tell me.
  • taitaFa... Bevos 2012/08/21 15:54:58
    taitaFalcon23
    I don't agree 'we've gotten nothing'with President Obama in the WH. He has done more for vets than the last 2 presidents combined. We have a healthcare law that does more good than bad. I see it everyday.... I'm in the insurance business and people are hurting from the 'old' way we did things. This is a conservo site... I choose to face the right in their 'own backyard' instead of getting constantly inundated by the looney left like the right get indoctrinated with Faux news. In doing so, I know I buck the trend. Hysterical rantings about politics are the norm instead of rational discussion about governance are expected.

    As for bringing people together - YOU tell me.... How does the GOP platform square with women, gays, latinos, blacks and seniors? Speaking of tearing a people apart - the right excels at it; not that the left doesn't try to keep up..... This is neither a Carter nor Reagan moment.
  • Bevos taitaFa... 2012/08/22 15:55:15
    Bevos
    +1
    Even the left Senators are saying they did not read the Healthcare bill and are just starting to find out how it will only hurt the economy, more!!!
  • taitaFa... Bevos 2012/08/22 22:26:36 (edited)
    taitaFalcon23
    Friend, I have read most of if not all of the bill; ( whew! that took a while) as I am in the business.

    Conclusion: It is simply a way to make medicare available to everyone before 65. What's different now, is that parts A,B,C and D have a different payer and payee. Healthcare is only health insurance; what is insurance? Transfer of risk. That risk is socialized across a wider spectrum of people and the individualized risk is reduced Yours, mine, your kids, parents, etc).

    The backbone of that transferrence is the payroll taxes and 1099 taxes if you're self employed or business owner. With that infrastructure, it's paid for already, but a great reliance is placed on the 20 and 30 somethings. The national statistics show that accidental death has a 1.2% payout. The rest is pure profit. If you had those odds in Vegas, you'd be a fool to not quit working for a living and start gambling instead. Because by definition, the older you get - the less likely you are prone to serious accident. The kids are basically footing the bill until THEIR kids take over in about 30yrs.

    Additionally, seniors (legally, those over 60) are working longer and the requirement to pay for their medicare is delayed for more yrs. I just had a client who retired for the 1st time at 75... that's 10 yrs of me...











    Friend, I have read most of if not all of the bill; ( whew! that took a while) as I am in the business.

    Conclusion: It is simply a way to make medicare available to everyone before 65. What's different now, is that parts A,B,C and D have a different payer and payee. Healthcare is only health insurance; what is insurance? Transfer of risk. That risk is socialized across a wider spectrum of people and the individualized risk is reduced Yours, mine, your kids, parents, etc).

    The backbone of that transferrence is the payroll taxes and 1099 taxes if you're self employed or business owner. With that infrastructure, it's paid for already, but a great reliance is placed on the 20 and 30 somethings. The national statistics show that accidental death has a 1.2% payout. The rest is pure profit. If you had those odds in Vegas, you'd be a fool to not quit working for a living and start gambling instead. Because by definition, the older you get - the less likely you are prone to serious accident. The kids are basically footing the bill until THEIR kids take over in about 30yrs.

    Additionally, seniors (legally, those over 60) are working longer and the requirement to pay for their medicare is delayed for more yrs. I just had a client who retired for the 1st time at 75... that's 10 yrs of medicare on him alone not used and not gonna be used - he has elected to self pay his parts b, c and d. As people take better care of themselves, the expense will reduce - as projections show.

    The kids are too young to realize that the binge drinking, burgers and video games are shortening their lives- at least right now. But they will learn as mortality becomes more real after 40.

    I myself am looking forward to my 55th birthday next month and have a routine of morning road racing rides on my bike that I do 4-5 times a week. I'm not as fast and strong as my optimum yrs of 30-38 but my bp measured 116/76 yesterday and my diet consists of 90% fruits and vegetables. My resting heart rate is in the mid 40's to the low 50's during the day and most probably sub-40 at night in my sleep. Where it is normal for the avg adult to be around 72-90/bpm.

    My pants are falling off of me. I just paid $60 to have them tailored just to lose additional weight since I took them in. I now have the body the body I had 25 yrs ago. I just went thru 3 surgeries and the doctor's were alarmed that my BPM was too low to continue beyond the 1st of the 3 until they were assured that it was 'normal' for me.

    If and when people but down the pizzas and big macs, reductions of chronic illness will reduce the cost of healthcare. You may have a tough time believing or understanding that as you suck down another beer while you're reading this, but if I hit the nail on the head - you're part of the problem, not the healthcare system. Hence the FLOTUS's crusade on fat kids and type 2 diabetes. To get type 2 - you have to eat your way there.

    Type 1 is a defect at birth - normally not detectable before about 22 yrs of age. If you are type 2, you most likely have BP trouble, heart and kidney troubles and open the door to alzheimer's and will most probably have a heart attack or stroke. Kidney disease is the 'canary in the coal mine' but people don't pay attention. Until they're hit by 'random' with some form of cancer - it's all related.

    You need to stop relying on GOP driven rumor and pay more attention to national statistics regardless of your politics in regards to healthcare issues.
    (more)
  • Bevos taitaFa... 2012/08/23 16:20:51
    Bevos
    Seniors 75 and older are ALREADY losing care. 2013, they will ALL lose their care. That is where the Death Panels come in. Did you read THAT part? My husband is 86 yrs old. That means if he gets sick in 2013, he will be allowed to die. Because I cannot afford to pay for major Health Bills.
  • taitaFa... Bevos 2012/08/24 04:16:45 (edited)
    taitaFalcon23
    I live in the same world and country you do, as an insurance agent, I promise you that we have not received that training on how to 'kill' someone's loved ones for fun and profit.

    But if you go to any insurance company and get a policy in any state (they're all available regardless where you live as they're regulated at the federal level - there are 12 of them) and purchase an affordable med supp F. Not only would he be covered but most likely cheaper than if you used any other option.

    Medicare is not going away, who pays what to whom is changing maybe but the care is still there. Medicare and med supplements are two wildly different things.

    Think about it - while death is inevitable, it is almost always less profitable than allowing people to live as long as they can... A corpse needs no more care, while someone with stage 4 cancer but covered with insurance, produces more income for SOMEBODY, whether they mean to or not.
  • paul Skye 2012/08/20 15:27:04
    paul
    This web site is EQUALLY open to Liberal Democrats as well.
  • Skye paul 2012/08/21 22:44:47
    Skye
    I know that. All I said is that the majority is republican.
  • Lanikai Skye 2012/08/20 17:30:59
    Lanikai
    Then leave.

    This is an opinion site. Opinions exist. Leave if you don't like it.
  • Skye Lanikai 2012/08/21 22:42:50
    Skye
    Who said I didn't like it? Don't jump to conclusions.
  • luke Skye 2012/08/20 19:59:57
    luke
    +1
    EVER WONDER WHY THIS SITE GETS EVERYONE TO EXPRESS THEIR OPTION?. U SEE IT RAISES MY BLOOD PRESSURE UP SEVERAL POINTS, I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, IS OUR NATION REALLY THAT DAMN DUMB THAT THEY DO NOT SEE WHAT THIS ADM HAS DONE TO US,(PS: I HAVE THE CAP LOCKS ON SO I CAN SEE WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN SO SOME OF U SMART ASSES CAN RESPOND TO THE CAPS, AS I AM 73 YRS. YOUNG
  • Skye luke 2012/08/21 22:44:02 (edited)
    Skye
    Who said I didn't like it? Don't jump to conclusions. All I said is that the majority of people on this website are republicans, lol.

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