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Obama Has 21 Days to Drop Biden: Would Dumping Biden Signal Desperation?

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President Obama has a lot of pressure to dump Vice President Joe Biden from the 2012 election campaign. Biden would not likely run for president in 2016 at the age of 73. Biden, a former Senator from Delaware, doesn't help with voters in the swing states like Florida, Virginia, Ohio or Pennsylvania. And Biden continues to bore people except with his gaffes ("20th Century") or outlandish rhetoric (accusing Republicans of enslaving people).

President Obama could shake things up by replacing Biden with Secretary Hillary Clinton as his vice president on his 2012 re-election ticket. Some pundits argue that would signal desperation by the Obama 2012 campaign because it would look as if Obama made a bad choice in picking Biden in 2008. Dumping Biden would only happen in desperation.

Then again, maybe President Obama would dump Biden for a candidate like Hillary Clinton because even Biden considers her more qualified for vice president (watch the video).

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  • Stephen Lanikai 2012/08/22 03:06:32
    Stephen
    Just what mess are you talking about? If I may ask?
  • Lanikai Stephen 2012/08/22 14:57:17
    Lanikai
    +1
    Adding more to the debt than all other presidents combined, loss of jobs at record levels, more people on welfare/food stamps than any other time in history, loss of credit rating, government takeovers of private businesses.........
  • Stephen Lanikai 2012/08/22 15:23:40
    Stephen
    Where to start??? First let's talk debt. Obama had a very viable plan. The republican congress, refussed it,wrote their own, and then blamed him for the shortfall. In addition. The policies of an outgoing president are untouchable for the first two years. That means that bush still had control of some aspects of U.S. law. Now if re-elected, the ultra rich will have to pay thier fair share. That includes corperate america. They, like the crying babies they are. Are withholdinding job increases and downsizeing production. Because to pay off the deficit. Means they would have to pay more thus make less. Example.... Mr. corperate american is so unhappy today. Why could that be?? He only made $14,000,000.00 (Fourteen million) clear and clean profit. This year. Poor baby. That is why jobs are down and people are on welfare and the debt is being paid slower and why the government should completly take over every business that wants to take an obscene amout of money out of the hands of "WE THE PEOPLE" and keep it for themselves. Any other questions?

    corperate greed
  • Lanikai Stephen 2012/09/06 14:29:53
    Lanikai
    The rich already pay a larger share then most. They pay a disproportionate share higher than the rest of us, and the WELFARE class pays ZERO, so there has to be some balance.


    Here is an Abe Lincoln thought on this one:
    You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
    You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong
    You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.
    You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
    You cannot build character and courage by taking away man's initiative and independence.
    You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
    You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
    You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.
    You cannot establish security on borrowed money.
    You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they will not do for themselves.


    So maybe, it is time to stop GIVING everyone, everything, and start EXPECTING people to PAY for things themselves, and PAY some taxes.

    It is time to STOP giving so much to foreign governments and start paying off debt at home,.

    It is time to STOP offering free everything for life, in exchange for voting support.

    How about everyone living (lifestyle choice) on welfare PAY 15% of total benefits back in taxes, and NOT get a "earned income tax credit".
  • Stephen Lanikai 2012/09/13 09:25:19
    Stephen
    First, I'm not sure you really know what rich is. In my opinion. No one should need to make more than $5,000,000.00 a year. Second the strong Lincoln was talking about were "WE THE PEOPLE". To date 300,000,000 in the United States alone. And anytime we want can band together and just take whatever we want. We don't need Corperate presidents or C.E.O.'S OR C.F.O.'S or any of the rest of them. "WE THE PEOPLE" already know how to do everything without these overpaid loosers. As far as i'm concerned, we should just take it from them. never give them another penny and they better be able to pawn those $2,000,000.00 bra's they bought for their ho's on the side.
  • Dave Ryan Lanikai 2012/09/06 05:03:03
    Dave Ryan
    +1
    The Obama-Jugend truly blind themselves to the facts.

    It's amazing what levels of delusion are possible when the media reduce themselves to be the servile Obama Ministry of Truth.

    Bush and the Democrats combined (senators Obama and McCain included) did vote for the 750 billion TARP bailout.
    But Obama, Reid and Pelosi alone are to blame for ramming through the 787 billion Stimulus, 550 billion Omnibus, trillion-dollar Obamacare bill (that a majority of Americans in multiple polls opposed, and two years later oppose in even higher numbers) and various other wastes of tax dollars and added debt, are the sole responsibility of the Democrats. There is absolutely no proof that ANY of these beyond TARP had the slightest economic benefit. These high-deficit legislations were an elitist liberal tax-and-spend wet dream, and a diversionary agenda from pursuit of jobs and the economy that Obama was elected to focus his priorities on.
  • Lanikai Dave Ryan 2012/09/06 14:25:18
    Lanikai
    I agree. Excellent assessment and summation.
  • Lanikai Dave Ryan 2012/09/13 14:10:07
    Lanikai
    Bet if they personally became rich tomorrow, they would "suddenly" see the light and become repubs.
  • LOU csrdrunner 2012/08/21 04:36:02
    LOU
    +1
    bush cheney jet fuel 911

    Never forget!
  • Lanikai LOU 2012/08/21 15:07:19
    Lanikai
    +1
    I will never forget that terrorists ran planes into buildings built with sub par union contract steel.
  • LOU Lanikai 2012/08/22 04:04:45
    LOU
    [...]
  • Lanikai LOU 2012/09/06 14:26:00
    Lanikai
    THAT was over the line. SO I am reporting you and blocking you.
  • Stephen 2012/08/20 07:43:42
    Yes
    Stephen
    There is no reason to dump him. He's done a good job. He has opinions that may sometimes differ from the President. Trust me. Thats nothing new. He's just more vocal about it because he wants to run for President after President Obama. Same as every other vice President.
  • bmacklowe 2012/08/20 07:31:20
    Yes
    bmacklowe
    If he had made a switch last year, maybe even a recently as this January, it might have helped him to have Hillary Clinton on the ticket. Now it just would seem like a desperate ploy. If they had done it early, they could have had Biden step down for "personal reasons" and they could have rolled out Clinton as the replacement. That would have excited Democrats and some independents. Doing so now, close to the two national conventions, would depress his base and turn off independents. Sure some Democrats would cheer Hillary as VP, but too many people would see it as acknowledging Biden as baggage. No, he must keep the image of a strong team fighting for re-election. (not voting for them, but that's the message they have to send.)
  • Cap 2012/08/19 22:22:58
    Yes
    Cap
    +1
    I don't expect him to do it, but, based on what we've been told by the Obama campaign up until now, there would be little other explanation for him to offer other than he did it "to strengthen the ticket", which would be code for "panic".

    Certainly there might be an intervening event that could explain Biden being dropped from the ticket, such as a health emergency, but I don't think anyone could, with a straight face, accuse a skeptic of cynicism for doubting that were the reason in most cases of "medical emergency". If he compared as well to Ryan as he currently does poorly, he'd likely have to have a stroke, die, and be cremated before Obama would drop him off the ticket - and even then, if the numbers were good enough, he might claim Joe had urned the right to stay on.
  • Scaldar... Cap 2012/08/19 22:42:44
    Scaldari Anitoba
    +1
    "...he might claim Joe had urned the right to stay on." claim joe urned stay
  • luke Cap 2012/08/20 19:42:38
    luke
    +1
    GREAT POST FUNNY ,BUT MIGHT JUST BE THE TRUTH
  • Flamingolady 2012/08/19 22:16:10
    Yes
    Flamingolady
    +1
    Maybe he will ask John Edwards to replace him. Or maybe Hillary?Wait, Nancy Pelosi??http://seattletimes.n... Barak Obama and Hillary http://latimesblogs.latimes.c...
  • Daniel 2012/08/19 22:01:34
    Yes
    Daniel
    +2
    HE IS NOTHING BUT A TOKEN WHITE ANYWAY ! kkk

    BURN THE WHITEY ! BURN BIDEN BURN
  • Lanikai Daniel 2012/08/20 17:24:35
    Lanikai
    Makes me wonder if Biden will have a heart attack like the perfectly healthy Breitbart, or a tragic accident on Amtrak.
  • Daniel Lanikai 2012/08/20 20:35:52
  • Lanikai Daniel 2012/08/20 20:37:31
    Lanikai
    +1
    I saw a list online of all the deaths attributed to the regime. Interesting reading. Just saying.

    Wink.
  • Daniel Lanikai 2012/08/21 09:20:28 (edited)
    Daniel
    +1
    The Clinton's have a body count that is well over 300 mysterious deaths from suicides to unexplained executions.
  • Lanikai Daniel 2012/08/21 15:06:11
    Lanikai
    +1
    I saw that, and I saw a link FROM his presidential library site to that list as if they were proud of it.
  • Linda Lanikai 2012/08/25 02:23:15
    Linda
    Unless you have facts, I wouldn't assume anything.
    http://www.thefix.com/content...
  • RJeffreySavlov 2012/08/19 20:35:00
    Yes
    RJeffreySavlov
    +2
    But BIden should drop him.
  • Ashley 2012/08/19 20:04:54
    Yes
    Ashley
    +2
    It will be Obama / Biden ticket.
  • jere.chievres 2012/08/19 19:47:07
    Yes
    jere.chievres
    +2
    Is a pigs butt pork!
  • Derbyhat 2012/08/19 18:34:06
    Yes
    Derbyhat
    +1
    Some people rise up to their level of incompetence. Biden has gone from a degree of relevance to a level like those decision devices where you ask a question, shake it and the result is displayed for you. With Biden in a baseball analogy, he is often on third base on a series of issues and in a flash, steal second!
  • Lanikai Derbyhat 2012/08/20 17:26:05 (edited)
    Lanikai
    More like court fool/jester Biden Jester
  • Derbyhat Lanikai 2012/08/26 18:41:00
    Derbyhat
    +1
    I love Danny Kaye's Court Jester as one of a comedy master's finest works. Sadly Joe Biden fill the bill as the court fool instead of the first in line if we lost our figurative leader.
  • Pistol Pete 2012/08/19 17:32:39
    Yes
    Pistol Pete
    +2
    He IS desperate 3.5 years into this, he spent $6 TRILLION DOLLARS and we got NOTHING in return. WHERE did that cash go? Not one major project. It ALL went to the crooked banks. Yet, NOW Obama is calling one investment bank, BAIN CAPITAL, a job killer. When BofA, Goldman Sachs, etc. killed tens of thousands of jobs!!!

    Worst President in my lifetime, right behind LBJ with his GREAT SOCIETY failure and useless war. Just like Obama's Welfare/Food Stamp, Section 8 fiasco and HIS useless war, Afghanistan. The both make Jimmy Carter and Bush, jr. look like saints.
  • Lanikai Pistol ... 2012/08/20 17:27:25
    Lanikai
    +1
    You forgot to mention GE and the GE-Presidential connection. Immelt from GE is the jobs czar and was allowed to kill 25,000 jobs here, and create 20,000 jobs in India and China.
  • sodabox 2012/08/19 15:42:32 (edited)
    Yes
    sodabox
    You are nuts if you think he would drop him. Bush senior didn't even drop Quayle!

    dan Quayle
  • bmacklowe sodabox 2012/08/20 07:37:49
    bmacklowe
    +1
    Dan Quayle was a former member of the House of Representatives (like his son Ben is now) and a Senator from Indiana. I've actually heard professors lecturing on C-Span that said Dan Quayle is "brilliant." Anyone can make a mistake. Legend has it that the wrong spelling was written on a cue card given to the Vice-president. Now it may be that he wasn't "ready for Prime-time," as some have also alleged, but that doesn't mean he's a dummy.
  • sodabox bmacklowe 2012/08/20 14:24:22
    sodabox
    I guess you didn't live through it.
  • Dave Ryan sodabox 2012/09/06 10:08:31 (edited)
    Dave Ryan
    The only two errors I ever saw Dan Quayle make were mis-spelling Potato in a classroom photo-op (I believe he spelled it Potatoe, one letter off)

    And another comment about a Murphy Brown episode, where he said the title character presented a bad role model that encouraged women to pursue single motherhood as an "alternative lifestyle choice".
    Which in the months and years after being touted as a political mistake, many experts in the field came out in pretty much a consensus that "Dan Quayle was right". But of course the liberal media ignored support of that opinion, and continued to portray Dan Quayle as stupid. For no real reason.

    The only other thing Quayle was in that bordered on a gaff was his 1988 V.P. debate with Lloyd Bentson, who gave him the "I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack was a friend of mine... and Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy."
    Which was just insult, with nothing to really back it up, but the Dems loved it.

    But through media-orchestrated perception rather than fact, Quayle was smeared as an idiot.
  • sodabox Dave Ryan 2012/09/06 13:46:37 (edited)
  • Lanikai bmacklowe 2012/08/20 17:28:20
    Lanikai
    +1
    I agree, Funny how they STILL harp on one mispelled word while ignoring Bidens gaffes, and obies gaffes.
  • bmacklowe Lanikai 2012/08/21 05:00:26
    bmacklowe
    Actually the 1992 campaign was the first one I followed closely. We had a mock election in my high school where, if I'm recalling accurately, Bush actually won.

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