Obama giving transgender illegal alien detainees ‘hormone therapy’ courtesy of the US taxpayer: yay or nay?

by tncdel Posted 2012/03/07 16:15:12

Related Topics: Obama, Illegal Alien, Transgender, Alien, US, Taxpayer

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Demonic Rat Hunter 2012/03/07 18:20:13 (edited)

Nay! [explain].

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Look at what he's doing to the Health Care of the Military (active & retired) and now just more butt kissing to illegals, gays, trannies and other deviants.

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tncdel to Joanie 2012/03/07 23:45:53

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First of all, elective hormonal injection are NOT necessary medical care. Secondly, they are not entitled to our constitutional rights.

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Joanie to tncdel 2012/03/07 23:48:57

I believe that you are mistaken when you refer to hormone therapy as elective. Moreover, hormone therapy is not always performed by injection, but often is administered by pills. In any case, for some transgender persons, hormone therapy is necessary medical care.

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doofieg... to Joanie 2012/03/07 21:30:17

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You seem to not understand the word ILLEGAL! We Owe them nothing but deportation!

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Joanie to doofieg... 2012/03/07 21:44:10

These standards apply to people who have been incarcerated by our government before there has been any finding that they are here illegally. When they are found to be here illegally, they are deported.

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tncdel to Joanie 2012/03/07 23:57:10

NO! Not "people." CITIZENS only are the "We the People."

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Joanie to tncdel 2012/03/08 00:01:51

Some provisions in the United States Constitution protect "persons" as opposed to "citizens". You may not like that, but that is what the Constitution says, and that is how it has been interpreted.

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tncdel to Joanie 2012/03/07 23:44:09

Illegals are NOT the "We the People" intended by our Constitution, and the constitutions of Mexico, etc. have no jurisdiction here. Ergo, they are NOT constitutionally entitled to Due Process or any other constitutional rights, only SUMMARY JUSTICE, same as military tribunals dispense to captured enemies.

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Joanie to tncdel 2012/03/07 23:49:30

The people subject to these policies include people who have not been determined to be illegal aliens.

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BUCCANE... to Joanie 2012/03/07 18:20:50 (edited)

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Open your eyes girlie,look at the state we are in,thanks to muddled liberal thinking

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Joanie to BUCCANE... 2012/03/07 20:05:46

My eyes are quite open. I don't know what point you are trying to make.

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doofieg... to Joanie 2012/03/07 21:47:26

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Dear , if your eyes were open, you would be answering in quite another manner! His point is that America is becoming like Britain-------overrun with people who didn't see what was happening because of foolish , progressive ideas. You must be one of those who is willing to be enslaved. Well, most Americans are Not so willing!

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Joanie to doofieg... 2012/03/07 21:53:37

No, darling. I just believe, as most civilized people do, that, if our government incarcerates someone, and thereby prevents that person from accessing health care on his or her own, our government has a moral and legal duty to provide that person with health care.

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tncdel to Joanie 2012/03/07 23:59:23

Nope. Not "someone." Someone lumps together each and every human on the planet. OUR Constitution applies only to "We the People," and that means CITIZENS. Not foreign nationals.

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Joanie to tncdel 2012/03/08 00:04:54

Sir, you are mistaken. Some provisions of the Constitution apply to "persons" as opposed to "citizens". You may not like it, but that is how the Constitution is written, and how it has been interpreted.

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tncdel to Joanie 2012/03/07 23:57:50

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Sad. Closed, and dreaming, but think the dreams are real. :)~

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doofieg... to tncdel 2012/03/08 00:17:09 (edited)

Not worth wasting anymore time on that one. Her record is stuck on Osimwity's needel!

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doofieg... to Joanie 2012/03/07 21:28:00

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The operative word here is necessary., certainly not cosmetic!. Who the heck Needs transgender operations? That sort of thing comes under like to have , not Must have!

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Joanie to doofieg... 2012/03/07 21:34:50 (edited)

No one is talking about transgender operations. What is referenced here is hormone therapy. Hormone therapy is not a cosmetic treatment for transgender people. There can be medical consequences making a person who is on hormone therapy stop his or her therapy cold turkey.

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doofieg... to Joanie 2012/03/07 21:37:39

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Too bad, so sad! They shouldn't have come here illegally, if they were getting what they wanted in their homeland!

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Joanie to doofieg... 2012/03/07 21:45:58

I am sorry. If you are arrested on suspicion of being an illegal immigrant, and you are incarcerated prior to trial, and you get sick, would you want the jail to provide you with a doctor?

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tncdel to Joanie 2012/03/08 00:02:07

SUMMARY JUSTICE requires only a deposition supported by factual proof that a person held is a foreign national.

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tncdel to Joanie 2012/03/08 00:00:49

Same with heroin addicts. Tough!

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tncdel to doofieg... 2012/03/08 00:00:14

There are two "operative words." That and CITIZENS. Not foreign nationals.

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tncdel to Joanie 2012/03/07 23:41:39

If it were incarcerated U.S. citizens, there is no constitutional right to hormone injection therapy. But we're talking about FOREIGN NATIONALS here illegally, who are NOT the "We the People"intended by our Constitution, and the constitutions of Mexico, etc. have no jurisdiction here.

Accordingly, they have no constitutional rights whatsoever, let alone a right our own citizens aren't entitled to.

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Joanie to tncdel 2012/03/07 23:45:46

I believe that you are wrong on both points. Incarcerated U.S. citizens, do, indeed, have a right to hormone therapy if they are transgender and such treatment is deemed medically necessary by a physician. And people subject to these new standards include suspected illegal aliens, i.e., people who have been arrested on suspicion of being here illegally, but who have not yet gone to trial--in other words, people who have not yet been determined to be illegal aliens.

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tncdel 2012/03/07 16:17:35

Nay! [explain].

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This is yet another example of how Obama wants to give illegals even more than our own citizens get. Same as the SCHEME Act he and Harry Reid have been trying to shove down our throats to give college to illegals at taxpayer expense.

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Faith † 2012/03/07 16:17:02

Nay! [explain].

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being transy is their choice it should not come out of my pocket they are illegal

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tncdel to Faith † 2012/03/07 16:19:23

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Our own citizens who want to change their gender outwardly can't get hormone therapy at taxpayer expense.

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Faith † to tncdel 2012/03/07 16:23:40

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anouther reason to say no way

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