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Obama giving transgender illegal alien detainees ‘hormone therapy’ courtesy of the US taxpayer: yay or nay?

tncdel 2012/03/07 16:15:12
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  • Demonic Rat Hunter 2012/03/07 18:20:13 (edited)
    Nay! [explain].
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +4
    Look at what he's doing to the Health Care of the Military (active & retired) and now just more butt kissing to illegals, gays, trannies and other deviants.

    illegals go home illegals go home illegals gtfo

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  • Viet Era medic 2012/03/07 22:39:41
    Nay! [explain].
    Viet Era medic
    +2
    Fluke NO... and they're not just talking one shot or a couple dozen pills, they're talking contitnuous therapy aren't they? You can treat transgender with one shot.. They constantly need the hormone so again, an emphatic fluke no. that butt-wipe in Washington just keeps on hurtin' us and he doesn't care. God that man (and the liberals) make me angry.
  • Viet Er... Viet Er... 2012/03/07 22:43:30
    Viet Era medic
    +2
    ICE Director John Morton is most likely an oblamer puppet and mandated to do this or is just brainwashed like so many others we know. Now they can come across for free abortions at our expense too. Read the article above if you want to get ticked off...
  • doofiegirl BTO-t- BCRA-F ~... 2012/03/07 21:20:24
    Nay! [explain].
    doofiegirl  BTO-t- BCRA-F ~PWCM~
    +3
    I had heard our country is almost bankrupt. With stupidity like his happening, it's no wonder!
  • tncdel doofieg... 2012/03/07 23:35:14
    tncdel
    +2
    And Obama has promised LaRaza he will give illegals college at taxpayer expense, plus other things, if he gets a 2nd term!
  • Fred 2012/03/07 20:41:50
    Nay! [explain].
    Fred
    +2
    He thought one was pretty cute
  • the fuze 2012/03/07 20:36:33
    Nay! [explain].
    the fuze
    +3
    Could we put our taxes towards real issues please?
  • Mr Wayne 2012/03/07 20:02:22 (edited)
  • RobHom 2012/03/07 19:10:48
  • none 2012/03/07 18:43:43
    Nay! [explain].
    none
    +3
    What doesn't that jackass understand about the word 'ILLEGAL'? Close and guard the border and send ILLEGAL alien criminals back to where ever they came from, that's where taxpayer dollars should be going.
    NOBAMA in 2012!
  • 4570GOVT 2012/03/07 18:43:40
    Nay! [explain].
    4570GOVT
    +3
    WTF ???????????????????????????? Even for Obama , this is insane !
  • tncdel 4570GOVT 2012/03/07 23:37:31
    tncdel
    +2
    I wouldn't quite say that is any worse than last year him giving 300,000 work permits to illegal alien, especially not when over 20 million of our own citizens need jobs. See:
    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • Demonic Rat Hunter 2012/03/07 18:20:13 (edited)
    Nay! [explain].
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +4
    Look at what he's doing to the Health Care of the Military (active & retired) and now just more butt kissing to illegals, gays, trannies and other deviants.

    illegals go home illegals go home illegals gtfo
  • CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY 2012/03/07 18:07:52
    Nay! [explain].
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +4
    I think BeeHO has a special love and affinity for the transexual and transgender communities.
  • Demonic... CUDDLY ... 2012/03/07 18:14:01 (edited)
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +5
    He loves them like himself. obama tranvestite
  • Joanie 2012/03/07 16:31:23
    Yay! [explain].
    Joanie
    When our government incarcerates someone, as it is incarcerating these people charged with being here illegally, our government is under a moral and legal duty to provide him or her with adequate health care. The government cannot incarcerate someone, thereby preventing that person from accessing healthcare for him or herself, and then deny that person necessary health care. These new standards are entirely appropriate.
  • Demonic... Joanie 2012/03/07 18:16:42
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +4
    They're a Foreign Invasion force and should be treated as such. illegals go home illegals go home
  • Joanie Demonic... 2012/03/07 20:04:59
    Joanie
    Not until their cases have been decided. In this country a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. While we are incarcerating them prior to disposition of their cases, and we are thereby preventing them from accessing health care, we have a duty to provide it.
  • Demonic... Joanie 2012/03/07 20:52:09
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +3
    We have no duty to any piece of crap trash that isn't here legally. You see them as sweet things, I see them as Foreign Invaders ala the Viet Cong and think they should be treated as such.
  • Joanie Demonic... 2012/03/07 20:54:38
    Joanie
    The disagreement isn't over what we feel about people who are here illegally, although I would imagine we disagree about that as well. The disagreement is over whether our government, when it incarcerates someone, has a duty to provide that person with medical care.
  • Demonic... Joanie 2012/03/07 21:06:39
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +2
    Oh I know we do, Bottom line we don't need to be responsible for someone not here legally.
    Illegals deserve no amnesty or path to citizenship. Time to get serious from top to bottom on illegals. They are a FOREIGN INVASION FORCE.

    1. Finish the fence complete with Razor Wire on top.
    2. Claymores & Landmines first 100 meters our side of the fence. We already can't go into areas of our own country
    3. Militarize the border with Combat Troops, M1A1 tanks, Bradleys, Drones, Apache Attack Helicopters and issue "S. O. S " orders.
    4 Repeal the Anchor Rat Law.
    5. Start a Bounty Hunter Program and issue a bounty on All Illegals.
    6. Severe Fines for any and all buisnesses hiring illegals.
    7. Fines for anyone renting to or harboring illegals.
    8. Cities/States providing sanctuary will lose Federal Dollars in addition to fines.
    9. Deport within 10 days and if they want a lawyer they must pay for them. Remember They are required to carry a Green Card.
    10. No Gov. Benefits or services (i.e. school etc) for illegals. Continue to purge/deport them as we find them.
    11. Any illegal serving time in an American jail/prison will serve it at hard labor on a Chain-Gang.
    12. English only for all Government documents, tests etc.
    As for those protesting if they're citizens throw them back across the border for treason and advocating the overthrow of America.
  • Joanie Demonic... 2012/03/07 21:12:31
    Joanie
    This question was about whether the government should provide health care to persons, who are incarcerated by the government and charged with being here illegally, before they are found guilty or not guilty of being here illegally.
  • Demonic... Joanie 2012/03/07 21:19:19
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +2
    WE Don't, They can pay or tough sht.
    They only get bare basic care not that trash. obama and boys are trashing our miltary H/C benefits which didn't include drugs like that yet want us to pay for illegals NO WAY in hell.
  • Joanie Demonic... 2012/03/07 21:21:33
    Joanie
    They aren't "illegals" before they are found guilty. We will have to agree to disagree.
  • Demonic... Joanie 2012/03/07 21:23:34
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +2
    If you don't have papers you're illegal and guilty.
  • Joanie Demonic... 2012/03/07 21:24:39
    Joanie
    I am sorry. That's not the law. This is not Nazi Germany. We don't have to carry papers in the United States.
  • Demonic... Joanie 2012/03/07 21:29:54
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +2
    Then why does my wife have to have her green card and DL with her at all times, Why does she have to ask permission to come here and stay here, Why does she have to be Fingerprinted and Photo'd to stay here, Why does she have to tell the government every time we may move to a new address.

    And you want to complain because we want them legal and with papers. I don't want obamanism but we're having to live it for a few more months.
  • Joanie Demonic... 2012/03/07 21:32:54
    Joanie
    I am a U.S. citizen. I don't have to carry any papers, and, if I were suspected of being an illegal alien, and if I were incarcerated and got sick, I would expect the jail where I am being held to provide me with medical care.
  • Demonic... Joanie 2012/03/07 21:36:16
  • Joanie Demonic... 2012/03/07 21:43:05
    Joanie
    It's been nice chatting with you.
  • tncdel Joanie 2012/03/07 23:56:16
    tncdel
    +1
    You've got a skewed perception about who the "We the People" are intended by our Constitution.
  • Joanie tncdel 2012/03/07 23:57:41
    Joanie
    Non-citizens are, in fact, protected by certain provisions of the constitution, including the Fourth Amendment and the Equal Protection Clause.
  • tncdel Joanie 2012/03/07 23:55:16
    tncdel
    +1
    You keep speaking of citizens. You're comparing apples to oranges.
  • tncdel Joanie 2012/03/07 23:54:40
    tncdel
    +1
    You keep forgetting. "We," yes. But an illegal is NOT one of the "We the People" intended by OUR Constitution. So all that "We" stuff you refer too is inapplicable to them.

    They've already been accorded SUMMARY JUSTICE, where the burden of proof is ON THEM. Not the government. That is one major difference between what "We" as citizens are entitled to, and what a FOREIGN NATIONAL is entitled to.
  • Joanie tncdel 2012/03/07 23:56:34
    Joanie
    In any criminal case, the burden of proof is on the government. And non-citizens are protected by certain provisions of the constitution, including the Fourth Amendment.
  • tncdel Joanie 2012/03/07 23:50:58
    tncdel
    +1
    The charges they are held under alleges crimes other than the already established fact that they are illegals.
  • Joanie tncdel 2012/03/07 23:54:06
    Joanie
    I believe that people subject to the standards include incarcerated suspected illegal aliens.
  • tncdel Joanie 2012/03/07 23:49:50
    tncdel
    +1
    No it wasn't. It's my topic question. The question asks should [MEDICALLY UNNECESSARY] hormone injections be provided to illegal alien [not "We the People"] detainees [not entitled to OUR constitutional rights, let alone something even our own citizens are not constitutionally entitled to].
  • Joanie tncdel 2012/03/07 23:54:42
    Joanie
    Your posting does not state that hormone injections are not medically necessary, nor would such a statement be true.

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