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Obama getting credit for pursuing mean nasty folks around the world.. Laughing.. because he is married to Michelle .. now who could be nastier.. plus he only has to say OK

iamnothere 2011/10/21 14:02:49

After rolling up a string of successes at capturing and killing the worst of the worst, President Obama polls 10 to 15 points higher on national security than on almost any other issue. On the economy, there is a 20-point gap with his numbers on national security. Barack Obama
going after bad guys all over the globe is not what the American people
expected when they elected him, and it’s not the Obama that Republicans
thought they would be running against.


Obama has made some big bets on national security, and they’ve paid
off handsomely. Republicans and some Democrats criticized his decision
to intervene militarily in Libya: some saying he waited too long or shouldn’t have put NATO in charge, others that he should have stayed out. But the news Thursday that longtime dictator Muammar Gaddafi had been killed—his regime toppled at minimal cost and with no loss of American life—vindicates the president’s decision.


“Reagan tried to get Gaddafi and missed; Obama got him,” says Lawrence Korb,
an assistant secretary of defense in the Reagan administration, and now
a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress. “Bush tried to get
bin Laden; Obama got him. He got Awlaki (the American-born cleric who
became a terrorist leader). Twelve of the 16 top al Qaeda leaders are
dead, and he’s done that.”

When it comes to national security,
Obama has been surprisingly decisive, especially when compared with his
record on the economy, which has been marred by a lack of focus, mixed
messages, and false starts. The demise of Gaddafi
adds a much-needed layer of insulation against GOP attacks as the 2012
campaign heats up. “It doesn’t mean they [Republicans] won’t try, but
they’ll have trouble making the weak-leader charge stick,” says Matt
Bennett of the centrist Democratic group, Third Way.


Republicans are working to cast the president as another Jimmy Carter,
beset by economic difficulties and unable to cope with the complexities
of the job. The difference is that Obama has proven himself as
commander in chief, which Carter was unable to do, especially in the
Iranian hostage crisis—opening the door to Ronald Reagan’s robust style
of leadership in both the Cold War and economic woes at home. Obama has
neutered half the opposition’s argument with his record on national
security. Even with a weakened economy, he is still in the game, which
might not be the case if he were failing on national security.


“The main thing it does for Obama is make it impossible to Jimmy Carterize him,”
says Norm Ornstein, a longtime analyst with the American Enterprise
Institute. “The idea you’ll criticize him for a feckless foreign policy
is ludicrous.”


The deaths of Gaddafi and a host of high-value terrorists make up but
a partial list of Obama’s high-risk calls. The Third Way’s Bennett also
includes the firing of Afghanistan commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal for making intemperate remarks in the presence of a reporter, and replacing him with the highly regarded David Petraeus,
whose credibility on Capitol Hill bought time to stabilize a volatile
situation in Afghanistan. The list includes “even the pirates,” says
Bennett, referring to the Navy snipers who fired three shots to take out
three pirates in a lifeboat, rescuing an American cargo ship
captain.


These actions were the result of judgment calls by Obama, and yet he doesn’t seem to get much credit. Even the killing of Osama bin Laden,
the 9/11 mastermind who eluded President Bush for almost eight years,
didn’t gain Obama much in the polls. “The great irony of this president
is, he started with foreign policy,” says Korb, recalling how Obama
entered the race in 2007 on the strength of his opposition to the Iraq
War. “Now he’s gotten that fixed—but he’s going to win or lose on the
economy.”


Just as Bush did with Iraq, Obama took a chance with Libya. “These
were not wars of necessity; they were wars of choice,” says Korb. “And
when you have a war of choice, you do a cost-benefit analysis. Are the
benefits greater than the cost? In Iraq, if you told the American people
in 2003 it would cost two to three trillion and we’re going to kill a
couple hundred thousand Iraqis, that 4,500 Americans would be killed,
40,000 physically wounded, and four to five hundred thousand with mental
problems, you’d be laughed out of the ballpark.”

By organizing
NATO airstrikes on behalf of a ragtag Libyan opposition, Obama won his
gamble, perhaps establishing a precedent of international engagement
that will continue beyond his presidency. He waged war in Libya quietly
but unapologetically, rarely drawing attention to the intervention, and
stressing that no boots would be put on the ground. As weeks turned into
months and the critics got louder, he stuck with the mission.

The
president took credit in a low-key statement before the cameras
Thursday, praising America’s soldiers and sailors as well as “our
leadership at NATO” that “helped guide our coalition…Working in Libya
with friends and allies, we’ve demonstrated what collective action can
achieve in the 21st century.” There was no “Mission Accomplished”
landing on an aircraft carrier, but then, the president had lowered the
risks by arranging for Britain and France to lead the bombing missions.

Voters
can be forgiven for not dancing in the streets now that Gaddafi is
gone. “People basically assumed he was dead already with the liberation
of Libya,” says Bennett. “The entire Libya campaign was waged so
quietly, it was really an elites’ discussion.” The string of successes
may not help Obama in 2012, but they have defused what might have been a
major vulnerability.

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  • OPOA912 2011/10/21 14:07:22
    OPOA912
    +6
    Ineptocracy (in-ept-oc-ra-cy).....

    A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

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  • Todd *RP 2012* 2011/10/25 22:06:03
    Todd *RP 2012*
    +1
    well, it helps when he takes credit for what the intel and military services are doing.
  • Common Sense 2011/10/25 21:59:32
    Common Sense
    +1
    It's a little more than just saying..."okay". Let's remember that Obama hand picked many of the people involved in the intelligence community, those responsible for gathering the intel necessary to capture/kill these terrorists. He's done a lot more than Bush, who had access to the same resources, I might add.
  • Bob DiN 2011/10/22 20:08:53
    Bob DiN
    +1
    Obama is a loser, enough said.
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2011/10/21 21:10:21
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +4
    And the leftwing hypocrites have shown up to support obaaaamas ILLEGAL oil war. Remember what they said about Bush and his LEGAL war against terrorism? Remember when our military caught the bad guy, Saddam Hussein? Leftwing hypocrites.
  • dogs voice 2011/10/21 20:48:10
    dogs voice
    +3
    He still gets his first letter of his last name as my poll indicates - A BIG FAT ZERO! Actually that goes for BOTH OF THEM!! They are both nothing but ZEROS!!! NOBAMA IN 2012!! BE SURE TO PASS IT ON!!
  • Rob. 2011/10/21 18:37:17
    Rob.
    +2
    She is Nasty for sure but in a small way I am glad she is Obama deserves it I love it when she throws him under the bus every day it good stuff.
  • Embalmer 2011/10/21 18:21:09
    Embalmer
    +1
    The economic situation is the same around the world. With the exception of China and possibly Germany we are doing much better than most everyone else. Obama's job approval rating today is 39%, but the Republican led congress has a rating of only 14%. More Americans are becoming aware of the fact that 1% of Americans control 40% of our country's wealth and Occupy Wall Street bears that out.

    Libya was a humanitarian effort and Obama stuck to his guns when the GOP complained about the War Powers Resolution being violated. But Clinton did the same thing in Kosovo and the courts sided with Clinton, just like they will with Obama.

    Remember, Libya was a part of the Arab Spring, just like in Tunisia, Egypt and Syria, among others. Syria is also killing it's revolvers as Gaddafi did, but the situation is different and difficult to explain because the foreign policy in that area with Iran and Syria being close allies is not easy to get around. Iran will help Syria fight off any type of revolution because Iran doesn't want it to spread there, it's as simple as that.
  • mich52 2011/10/21 16:40:32
    mich52
    +1
    I see being a SH Guru doesn't mean you're intelligent or not disgusting person...
  • iamnothere mich52 2011/10/25 20:48:37
    iamnothere
    sure I am intelligent.. I did not ask you to be a friend here
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2011/10/21 16:30:29
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +3
    Actually, his worst fault in this Libyan affair lay in not getting a Congressional authorization-of-force (the modern equivalent of a declaration of war) before involving US forces in the first place.

    Letting the rebels "do it" was a smart move. Now at least you have somebody local who has proved himself.
  • Frank 2011/10/21 16:18:18
    Frank
    +4
    How about him taking care of business on our Southern border???????
  • David 2011/10/21 16:06:00
    David
    +1
    " ... Now who could be nastier ..."

    The person asking the question is a good canidate!
  • ♒ßεllεchεvεllε®♒ 2011/10/21 14:37:06
    ♒ßεllεchεvεllε®♒
    +4
    Polls by conservatives YESTERDAY indicated they *did* give him credit (or blame)....but then again, there is a degree of blame, hatred, and fickleness to all fanatics.

    **disclaimer** I do not like obama, and did not vote for obama...just not a fan of willful ignorance and double standards.
  • iamnothere ♒ßεllεc... 2011/10/21 14:42:29
    iamnothere
    +2
    I just find the topic interesting.. I am glad he is actually doing something.. Better overseas than in our own back yard.. Now if he would consider the southern border that would be darn effective and people would really take notice that is it not the CIA or our special forces who are well away from the real influence of the WH
  • ♒ßεllεc... iamnothere 2011/10/21 14:44:20
    ♒ßεllεchεvεllε®♒
    +2
    Lawd hunny, you are conversing with a Texan on that topic....need I say more. BUT...I'm pretty sure he's in bed with Calderon...
  • iamnothere ♒ßεllεc... 2011/10/21 14:45:04
    iamnothere
    +2
    and we all know what boy toys do LOL
  • Bella 2011/10/21 14:21:56
    Bella
    +1
    Michelle Obama is the most popular person in America right now
  • iamnothere Bella 2011/10/21 14:30:14
    iamnothere
    +4
    compared to whom?? personally I am much more taken with you than I have ever been with her.. Figure she is a lying cheating so and so.. who lived off the public dole to get thru law school then had to forfeit her license.. does not speak well does it?
  • Bella iamnothere 2011/10/21 15:39:21
    Bella
    +1
    "Personally" is followed by just an opinion.
  • Bob DiN Bella 2011/10/22 20:11:21
    Bob DiN
    Popular or infamous?
  • Jimbo 2011/10/21 14:16:51
    Jimbo
    +2
    Our CIC listens to the generals, sending out our armed forces as the Legion of Doom to punish those that have harmed America. Osama Bin Laden got justice for 9/11, Al Awlaki got justice for Ft. Hood, Gadhafi got justice for Lockerbie 103.

    For those of us that are not RWNJs, Obama has helped the economy, while the GOP has hurt the economy.
    http://www.bls.gov/news.relea...
    obama helped economy gop hurt economy httpwww bls govnews relea
  • iamnothere Jimbo 2011/10/21 14:18:28
    iamnothere
    +4
    laughing because there are only three other people he listens to
  • Jimbo iamnothere 2011/10/21 17:26:06 (edited)
    Jimbo
    Laughing because Nixon selling China sophisticated radar forced the bear to put an add'l 1 million men on the Chinese border and Carter built 7 boomers (all in service today) forcing the bear to build 16 to avoid a first strike capability. Building those boomers bankrupted the Bear, Reagan helped by selling arms for oil production, not filling Carter's Strategic reserve. Of the three Reagan had the least to do with the downfall of Russia.
  • OPOA912 2011/10/21 14:07:22
    OPOA912
    +6
    Ineptocracy (in-ept-oc-ra-cy).....

    A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.
  • bman~AVA OPOA912 2011/10/21 15:12:59
    bman~AVA
    +2
    That sounds about what we've got in the office right now.
  • Rocky 2011/10/21 14:07:12
    Rocky
    +3
    I with hold my judgement on Obama's "See and Kill" Policy against Jihadists and International Terrorists. I think History will not be so kind to him *Obama* when all the paperwork is eventually released.
  • Tom 2011/10/21 14:05:44
    Tom
    +6
    Okay, so less Carter and more Nixon. He is still an abject failure as a President, and a such needs to be voted out next year.
  • bman~AVA Tom 2011/10/21 15:13:23
    bman~AVA
    +2
    Agreed

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