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Obama eligibility: fresh warning

Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/09/04 21:55:37
Right! Obama has established nothing. Anyone who says he has, is a liar.
Wrong! We've settled this already. He was born in Hawaii; that's enough.
Obama's birthplace doesn't matter anyhow; his father was a British colonial subject, and that shuts him out.
Neither his birthplace nor his parentage ought to matter, for POTUS is equal to POTE; hence anyone should be eligible!
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Larry Klayman, of Freedom Watch, laid it on the line to Robert Bauer, general counsel of the Democratic National Committee. The Democrats must not certify Barack Obama as eligible to the office of President. For if they do, they will commit perjury.

Klayman based his reasoning on Alvin Onaka's failure to answer Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett's letter. Maybe Ken Bennett accepted that partial answer, but Klayman pointed out that this was not according to the law. And the only reason why Onaka didn't verify the information that Bennett asked for was that he couldn't.

Klayman carefully laid the groundwork for challenging any certification that comes through, after Obama delivers his acceptance speech in Charlotte on Thursday, September 6.

Only one thing can satisfy the law, says Klayman. And that is for Dr. Onaka to produce an actual long-form birth certificate and put it up before a judge or ALJ. Until that happens, says Klayman, we cannot legally be sure that Obama is even old enough to be President, let alone a genuine, honest-to-God born-in-the-USA-to-two-citizen-parents Article II Section 1 Clause 5 natural born citizen.

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  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/09/04 21:58:23
    Obama's birthplace doesn't matter anyhow; his father was a British colonial s...
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
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    Emmerich de Vattel says it best: natural born citizens are they were were born in-country to two parents, both of whom were citizens at the time of birth. And in Minor v. Happersett, the Supreme Court used the phrase "natural born citizen" to describe such people, and *did not* use it--ever--to describe anyone who had any alienage whatsoever.

    But this birth certificate has never been settled. And it's important for another reason. If Obama has never been present, then no official act, to which he has ever put his signature, is valid.

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  • ghostrider 2012/10/04 16:55:09
    None of the above
    ghostrider
    .... and the insanely delusional rant on (and on and on and on and ................)
  • Bureauc 0webama 2012/09/10 04:42:09
    Right! Obama has established nothing. Anyone who says he has, is a liar.
    Bureauc 0webama
    +1
    Far to many discrepancies in what we DO know about barack. This issue is to be blamed for barack's grey hairs because we know he doesn't give a rat's behind about the issues facing our nation.
  • Sumātogai 2012/09/08 05:10:38
    Neither his birthplace nor his parentage ought to matter, for POTUS is equal ...
    Sumātogai
    +1
    A warrior is not determined by where he is from nor should a fool care.
  • Bureauc... Sumātogai 2012/09/10 04:45:16
    Bureauc 0webama
    +1
    warrior? barack? warrior, thanks for the laugh!
    So you are saying our Constitution isn't worth the paper it's written on?
  • Sumātogai Bureauc... 2012/09/10 10:34:46
    Sumātogai
    Exactly. And Warrior in this case is used in general terms not directed to a specific person.
  • Zippcodey 2012/09/08 04:45:43
    Right! Obama has established nothing. Anyone who says he has, is a liar.
    Zippcodey
    +1
    Only thing he has established is that he is illegal to be President, and yet these dumbed down Americans, need I say more?
  • Patent1 Zippcodey 2012/09/08 20:01:00
    Patent1
    http://www.conservapedia.com/...
    "FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship." In addition, the site posted high-resolution photographs of the birth certificate, which clearly showed the raised seal, stamp of Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka, and certificate number. The birth date corresponds to a birth announcement published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, August 13, 1961. [6]
  • Zippcodey Patent1 2012/09/08 22:35:11
    Zippcodey
    +2
    You can believe the lie all you want. The guy uses a dead man's Social Security number.
  • Patent1 Zippcodey 2012/09/09 04:16:16
  • Zippcodey Patent1 2012/09/09 04:42:06
    Zippcodey
    +2
    Believe what you want, this guy has lived a lie all his life. He has not proven his citizenship, both certificates have been shown to be messed with. The guy uses a dead man's SS number and has used more than one. His grandmother worked for SS, so it's not hard to know where he got them from. He is a plant and this country will pay dearly, because people like you have believed his lies.
  • Patent1 Zippcodey 2012/09/09 04:45:42
    Patent1
    So you didn't look it up on Snopes Urban Legends? You remain ignorant by choice. That is the most pathetic thing for any human being. To be so consumed by ignorance and fear.
  • Zippcodey Patent1 2012/09/09 04:53:45
    Zippcodey
    +2
    I've read it all, sorry but Obama is a plant in our government to destroy this country and doing a good job at it. By the time people wake up to it, it is going to be too late.
  • Patent1 Zippcodey 2012/09/09 05:01:14
    Patent1
    Robme, Lyin Ryan and his supporters are liars.

    http://www.inquisitr.com/3151...
  • Zippcodey Patent1 2012/09/09 05:10:45
    Zippcodey
    +1
    Obama is a bigger liar than BIll Clinton. I'd go with anyone to get rid of Obama out of the White House, he acts like a dictator instead of a President, a illegal one at that. He is killing this country.
  • Patent1 Zippcodey 2012/09/09 05:17:10
    Patent1
    Look what bush2 did. He almost killed the country. Robme and Lyin Ryan will do the same. They have already said that, and they have also said they would hire 80% of the same advisers bush2 had. What do you think is going to happen? THE SAME THING. Now, the economy is growing. The Dow is over 13,300. Robme will take it back down to 6,500 or so, and we will be losing hundreds of thousands of jobs a month. You can take that to the bank. We have heard that tune already.
  • Zippcodey Patent1 2012/09/09 12:40:46 (edited)
    Zippcodey
    +1
    LOL, you are an idiot, Obama has most of Bill Clinton's Administration and even his wife. Like you said, what do you think will happen? THE SAME THING NOW. Do I need to say more. The economy is not growing. what is growing is government welfare and food stamps, and the number of the Middle Class that use to be Middle Class are on the rise.

    Obama can't run a government, the guy is a boy trying to do a man's job, but his problem is he is out to destroy this country while people like you believe his lies. He is a puppet, nothing more, his teleprompter tells him what to say.
  • Patent1 Zippcodey 2012/09/11 01:53:58
  • Zippcodey Patent1 2012/09/11 02:33:01 (edited)
    Zippcodey
    +1
    You are really an idiot aren't you? Plus a foul mouth, your parents should have kicked your butt growing up.

    Clinton had a Republican Congress for most of his Presidency.. President Clinton worked with Republicans in Congress to have a budget agreement to cut spending.

    Plus, Clinton took the Social Security money to pay the debt off and the surplus never went back into S.S. but stayed so he could have a surplus. That's why S.S. is in so much trouble.

    I'm not sticking up for Bush, he is in on what's happening to this country too, he is a quiet Socialist. At the end of Bush's term, things were still a lot better than what it is now with Obama.

    I have to add this, the housing market crashed on Bush's watch, and Clinton and the Democrats was the reason for the crash.
  • Patent1 Zippcodey 2012/09/11 03:29:26
    Patent1
    Clinton didn't have a repug or teabuger minority whose no. 1 priority was to make the president fail at all costs. They have said that many times.

    Social Security has taken in about 2.5 trillion dollars, which is owed to the SS Fund by the Treasury.

    So if SS has a 49 billion deficit, it has a 50 times that amount owed. So to say that it has contributed to the national debt or deficit is false; in fact, the opposite is true: It has contributed to keeping the external debt smaller.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2011...

    So its OK for you to call people idiots, but not for me. Screw you.
  • Zippcodey Patent1 2012/09/11 03:59:25
    Zippcodey
    +1
    No wonder you are a liberal, your mind doesn't work at all.

    I'm a guy queer.
  • Patent1 Zippcodey 2012/09/12 02:55:00
    Patent1
    That's all you got? Repugs and teabuggers can't do arithmetic. And it doesn't matter whether you are a log cabin repug or not.
  • Zippcodey Patent1 2012/09/12 03:19:46
    Zippcodey
    +1
    Quit watching the liberal news, you never will get the facts, just kool-aid.
  • Patent1 Zippcodey 2012/09/12 03:23:05
    Patent1
    You probably don't even know the origin of "kool aid".
  • Zippcodey Patent1 2012/09/12 03:37:18
    Zippcodey
    +1
    Don't have to, just as long as you know what I'm talking about, if you don't I will explain it to you.
  • Patent1 Zippcodey 2012/09/12 03:44:32
    Patent1
    I don't think you know what you are talking about. Quick! Look it up!
  • Zippcodey Patent1 2012/09/12 12:05:09
    Zippcodey
    +1
    Like I said don't have to, just keep drinking Obama's kool-aid, Michelle sleeps with the pitcher.
  • Patent1 Zippcodey 2012/09/15 02:54:37
    Patent1
    Like I said. You don't even know what that means. I like Kool aid. It keeps me connected to reality. Repugs and teabugers, on the other hand, live in an alternate universe.
  • Zippcodey Patent1 2012/09/15 03:05:49
    Zippcodey
    +1
    Sure I know what it means, you fall for all Obama's lies, and the liberal news.
  • Bureauc... Patent1 2012/09/10 04:32:10
    Bureauc 0webama
    Robme, Lyin Ryan? Yep, you are an objective observer.
    Did you get that from Snopes¿
  • Patent1 Bureauc... 2012/09/11 01:54:51 (edited)
    Patent1
    As objective as it takes. Robme wants to raise my taxes by $2000. And Lyin Ryan is nothing but the truth.
  • Bureauc... Patent1 2012/09/11 03:44:50
    Bureauc 0webama
    Prove to me that Romney plans to raise your taxes. Real proof, not some liberal left wing spin doctors assessment.

    Meanwhile barack does spell huge tax increases.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch_...
  • Patent1 Bureauc... 2012/09/12 02:59:00
    Patent1
    Robme wants to eliminate the deduction for home mortgages, and many other deductions and exemptions. Him and Lyin Ryan have said that many times. That is a tax increase.

    The prez has said many times that his proposed tax increase is on those making $250,000 and above. And the highest Clinton tax rate was 39.5%. From 35 % TO 39.5%. Is that so terrible?
  • Bureauc... Patent1 2012/09/12 04:17:59
    Bureauc 0webama
    ''eliminate the deduction for home mortgages, and many other deductions and exemptions.......That is a tax increase.''
    Wrong, it's eliminating a deduction and leveling the playing field. It will cost the 'rich' more than anyone else. The less fortunate never get to take advantage of the Mortgage deduction as many will rent all their lives. Some Buy such an inexpensive house that the mortgage deduction is only available for the first few years of the loan, if ever. Either way, wage earners at the lower end are subsidizing housing for the wealthiest, who always get to take advantage of mortgage interest deduction because their mortgages are bigger. And they get that deduction for 2nd homes as well.

    Wrong, the pResident intends to raise taxes on households making 250K plus.
  • Patent1 Bureauc... 2012/09/15 02:58:32
    Patent1
    eliminating the home mortgage deduction alone is a $2000 tax increase on everybody in the middle class who own their home. Eliminating other middle class deductions will add to that tax increase.

    Those who make $250,000 plus and above own 80% of everything in America. They should pay 80% of all taxes.
  • Bureauc... Patent1 2012/09/15 03:28:45
    Bureauc 0webama
    +2
    If you are worried about taxing the middle class, barack's obama-care is the biggest middle class tax in crease in history. You are a wealth redistribution socialist. You can not make the impoverished prosper by impoverishing the wealthy no more than barack can spend his way out of this recession.
  • Patent1 Bureauc... 2012/09/15 03:38:35
  • Bureauc... Patent1 2012/09/15 04:25:10
    Bureauc 0webama
    +2
    Bullsh!t?¿? Oh, gosh, Did I strike a nerve?

    ''It might not appear that way at first, because the dollars are collected via a 40% tax on sales by insurers of “Cadillac” policies, fees on health insurers, drug companies and device manufacturers, and an assortment of odds and ends.

    But the economics are clear. These costs will be passed on to consumers by either directly raising insurance premiums, or by fueling higher health-care costs that inevitably lead to higher premiums. Consumers will pay the excise tax on high-cost plans. The Joint Committee on Taxation http://www.google.com/url?sa=...
    indicates that 87% of the burden would fall on Americans making less than $200,000, and more than half on those earning under $100,000.''

    Do you offer HC for your employees? Don't let your small business grow or you will be forced to purchase HC or you'll be Fined (taxed).
  • Zippcodey Patent1 2012/09/15 19:37:04
    Zippcodey
    +2
    Obama is out to get rid of small business, and governmentize all the corporations. There will be no middle class when Obama is done with the agenda he is pushing.

    Obamacare is not even in full swing yet, they still don't know what is all in it.
  • Zippcodey Patent1 2012/09/15 19:34:45
    Zippcodey
    +2
    Do you realize, there are 23 taxes just in the so called Obamacare? Do you realize that Obama said if he can't tax the rich then he will tax everyone. Did you know that if Obama didn't get his way about something a few months ago that the military would not get paid. Are you really that brainwashed to believe the middle class won't end up paying higher taxes with Obama? Another 4 years of this guy and this country won't be but a memory of what it was before this idiot was put in the office through lies, cheating, building him up to be some kind of messiah to the people, when he is a puppet for those above him who rule over him.
  • Temlako... Patent1 2012/09/09 00:29:10
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +2
    Nice try. By now the sysops have scrubbed that page and made sure that it will stay scrubbed.
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