Obama apologizes to Muslims all the time. Is it time that the Muslims apologize to us?

by Wyzard Posted 2012/03/15 01:28:16

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I had to take my car in today for some work. Got to talking with Sam, a 30 year civil service veteran at Kelly AFB here in SA. He brought up a point I'd never thought about. Have any Muslims apoligized for the 13 people a Muslim killed at Ft. Hood, Texas? Have any muslims apologized for the troops we've lost trying to help the people in Iraq and Afghanistan? Yet our president apologizes to the muslims over and over. Total BS.

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jasmine1 2012/04/15 14:52:51 (edited)

Should the Muslims apologize to us?

Islam is not a religion but an ideology that wants to envelope the world. They use barbaric means ie. honor killings, public beatings and beheadings, and stonings, etc. They treat women abominably; woman have little if no rights. Many countries do not believe in educating women and women are not allowed to drive or go out in public without a male relative. They must wear clothes in public that cover their bodies and faces. THIS IS SICK!

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Walaa to jasmine1 2012/05/13 18:04:10

Really, what your saying is very IGNORANT, did you visit one of these "barbaric" places you call. Your source of information is the media. Mine is experience. And as you can see I'm not wearing a veil. Please do not generalize it is very insulting, because you are insulting the religion, not the people.

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jasmine1 to Walaa 2012/05/14 15:04:56

I live in the Detroit area and see these things for myself.

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Walaa to jasmine1 2012/05/14 18:51:19

Detroit isnt an original arab nor muslim teritory. Try somewhere else, and dont base your theories on simply something youve "seen". I'v had my friend getting spat at by a guy RANDOMLY in NY didnt make me generalize things. And you have to keep in mind the number you have seen in Detroit and compare it say to where I live, a easy 1 million.

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jasmine1 to Walaa 2012/05/16 16:19:19

We have a family friend who married someone from a muslim territory and went there to live. They did divorce. She had to "escape", and it wasn't easy, to get back to the the US WITH her children. She still lives in fear. The Detroit area has the largest Arab population in the world outside of the Middle East. It gives us a good picture of how people treat each other, especially women. Can you vote or drive a car? Can you go anywhere you like unescorted? Can you marry anyone you want? Can you pick the education of YOUR choice? You are from Bahrain, which is more liberal than some but how much? I have a friend who was an executive for an auto company. They wanted her to visit Saudi Arabia for business with several others. She was required by the Saudis to get a letter of permission from her husband to travel there. She told them to take a "hike", she wasn't going anywhere she had to ask her husband for "permission" to do anything.

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Walaa to jasmine1 2012/05/16 16:29:14

YES I CAN DRIVE AND VOTE! YES! YES! AND YES! That proves that you dont know about the muslim community so much after all. The ONLY place in the middle east where women are not allowed to drive and do the other things you said is in Saudi. And Bahrain along with the other countries arnt even similar to Saudi . After seeing your reply I can assure you that you do not know enough and you need to broaden your resources. I'd be happy to answer any questions related to this topic of course if thats your desire.

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jasmine1 to Walaa 2012/05/16 17:08:59

Do you cover your head? Can you wear a bikini in public? Can you show affection for a male in public (not in Iran)? Can you criticize your religion on points you may not agree with?

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Walaa to jasmine1 2012/05/16 17:17:25

If you notice my display picture youd notice that I'm not, you see we DONT have too. And yes we do wear bikinis in PUBLIC places. Yes we can show as much affection as long as no organs are involved, and yes I can criticeze a my religion. This tells me you dont really know how is it like in the middle east and I dont find it ignorant what so ever for the media plays a role in this as well as the language barier. If you have any more questions I'd be happy to answer them.

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jasmine1 to Walaa 2012/05/16 19:38:57 (edited)

You live in Bahrain and obviously it is much more liberal there as is some other muslim countries. Iran is not. Iraq is not. You admit Saudi Arabia is not. Here in the US we have had problems with muslims commiting honor killings with the women in their own families. As I said I live in an area with a large number of muslims and see things I would rather not. I am glad for you it is not this way in Bahrain. Afganistan does not want to educate women. You must educate yourself as to what other countries in the middle east are like also, and do what you can so they can live like you do. It is heartening to hear that Bahrain is so open minded.

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Walaa to jasmine1 2012/05/16 20:09:09

Bahrain, along with other countries like Oman, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, and Turkey in some civilized areas.

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Wyzard 2012/04/02 13:55:05

Should the Muslims apologize to us?

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For all you that believe that Muslims are peaceful go have a look at the Muslim Brotherhood and the new Black Panthers, both are Muslim organizations. Both condone violence!

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T4yy1b 2012/04/02 11:06:37

Should the Muslims apologize to us?

considering the us has killed millions of innocent muslims i thin th muslims do not have to apologise to you

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Wyzard to T4yy1b 2012/04/02 13:26:19 (edited)

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Millions? Do you exaggerate ? Maybe if the muslims were not a violent religion, and were not tied to terrorist we would not need to be in wars with them!!!

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Walaa to Wyzard 2012/05/13 18:07:08

Okay, look both parties have appologized and thats enough, however, Osama got what he deserved for killing 3000 people, what happened to the person responsible for killing a number thats a multiple of these 3000?

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Wyzard to T4yy1b 2012/04/02 13:55:41

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For all you that believe that Muslims are peaceful go have a look at the Muslim Brotherhood and the new Black Panthers, both are Muslim organizations. Both condone violence!

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T4yy1b to Wyzard 2012/04/02 15:47:43

by that logic christianity is an even worse religion since the kkk were christians and they killed people and the fact that most the nazis were christians.

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Wyzard to T4yy1b 2012/04/03 13:59:19 (edited)

KKK and Nazis were not true Christians, they did not follow what the Bible says and teaches. Muslim Brotherhood and Black Panthers are doing exactly what the Koran says and teaches. Now what do you have to say?

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Wyzard to Wyzard 2012/04/03 14:06:13

The KKK, Nazis and Muslims all have one thing in common, they are all evil!!

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T4yy1b to Wyzard 2012/04/03 23:50:32

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT) according to this verse you should kill people who dont listen to the priest explain this one

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Wyzard to T4yy1b 2012/04/04 17:45:34

Learn your Bible, that was a man made law back then....that was not what God commanded.

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T4yy1b to Wyzard 2012/04/04 19:42:16

go on bible gate way and then find out deuteronomy 17:12

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Wyzard to T4yy1b 2012/04/04 20:55:32 (edited)

All man made laws and rules of that time....heres it all....notice it never says "God says to do this"...

Deu 17:1 Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the LORD thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Deu 17:2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,

Deu 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;

Deu 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:

Deu 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

Deu 17:6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

Deu 17:7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, a...

All man made laws and rules of that time....heres it all....notice it never says "God says to do this"...

Deu 17:1 Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the LORD thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Deu 17:2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,

Deu 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;

Deu 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:

Deu 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

Deu 17:6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

Deu 17:7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.

Deu 17:8 If there arise a matter too hard for thee in judgment, between blood and blood, between plea and plea, and between stroke and stroke, being matters of controversy within thy gates: then shalt thou arise, and get thee up into the place which the LORD thy God shall choose;

Deu 17:9 And thou shalt come unto the priests the Levites, and unto the judge that shall be in those days, and enquire; and they shall shew thee the sentence of judgment:

Deu 17:10 And thou shalt do according to the sentence, which they of that place which the LORD shall choose shall shew thee; and thou shalt observe to do according to all that they inform thee:

Deu 17:11 According to the sentence of the law which they shall teach thee, and according to the judgment which they shall tell thee, thou shalt do: thou shalt not decline from the sentence which they shall shew thee, to the right hand, nor to the left.

Deu 17:12 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel.

Deu 17:13 And all the people shall hear, and fear, and do no more presumptuously.

Deu 17:14 When thou art come unto the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, and shalt possess it, and shalt dwell therein, and shalt say, I will set a king over me, like as all the nations that are about me;

Deu 17:15 Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother.

Deu 17:16 But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.

Deu 17:17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

Deu 17:18 And it shall be, when he sitteth upon the throne of his kingdom, that he shall write him a copy of this law in a book out of that which is before the priests the Levites:

Deu 17:19 And it shall be with him, and he shall read therein all the days of his life: that he may learn to fear the LORD his God, to keep all the words of this law and these statutes, to do them:

Deu 17:20 That his heart be not lifted up above his brethren, and that he turn not aside from the commandment, to the right hand, or to the left: to the end that he may prolong his days in his kingdom, he, and his children, in the midst of Israel.
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T4yy1b to Wyzard 2012/04/04 21:32:09

go on bible gateway and search deuteronoomy 17:12 and see that it differs how could it be changed if theres 1 bible.

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Wyzard to T4yy1b 2012/04/05 13:14:03

Obviously Bible gateway has a wrong translation, I used the King James version which history shows to be the correct version.

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lisaokapi to T4yy1b 2012/04/05 13:38:36

http://biblebrowser.com/deute...
scroll down to commentary and it will help you understand what was going on at the time.

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T4yy1b to Wyzard 2012/04/04 21:33:10

so the bible isnt gods word?

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lisaokapi to T4yy1b 2012/04/05 13:29:11

Well the bible is part history describing what is going on at that time. Describing the people and their laws of that time. Parts of the bible are actually Gods words. Such as when the laws were given to Moses, when Jesus spoke (most of the New Testament)...

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Walaa to Wyzard 2012/05/13 18:11:05

The same way you say that they did not follow what the bible have taught, we say that they did not follow what the Quran have taught, what you dont understand is that to kill an infidel it must be at a war zone, a man. Women and children are not to be killed. Christians and muslims lived peacefully in the time of Prophet Mohammed, and the christians helped spread his message. What makes things diffrent is the ignorance people are and the hate they carry for each other as well as the hasty generalization people like yourself practice that systimatically spreads like an epidemic. If one doesnt move on from the past they never will and that would eventually cause an explosion of hate and discomfort among all people. There is also no need to insult one another.

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lisaokapi to T4yy1b 2012/04/05 13:29:43

+1

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T4yy1b to lisaokapi 2012/04/05 23:42:51

if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people Holy Quran,(5:32) this verse clearly states you cant kill None believers.And also according to islam you have to follow the law of the land.and also whats wrong with getting halal food?You dont complain about kosher but halal is a problem.

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lisaokapi to T4yy1b 2012/04/10 01:53:04

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I never said anything about their food. And if they are told in the Koran to follow the laws of the land then why in the hell are they trying to push sharia law here in the US????!?!?!?!

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T4yy1b to lisaokapi 2012/04/10 18:21:04

The Video said about the food.And Sharia law is a moral code so they should be living their life as sharia law dictates and how am i supposed to know why their pushing it in the us?

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lisaokapi to T4yy1b 2012/04/12 02:11:01

They take over where ever they go. Thats why in one video the iman says one day the flag of Islam will fly over the Whitehouse.

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T4yy1b to lisaokapi 2012/04/12 20:50:29

you cant convince me that muslims try and take over everywhere from one guys view i want real evidence thats like me saying that christians hate all none W.A.S.P because of the kkk.

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lisaokapi to T4yy1b 2012/04/14 20:09:07

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lisaokapi to T4yy1b 2012/04/14 20:10:10

OK here are a bunch of muslim leaders. Study islam and what it means. Then come on here and defend them.

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T4yy1b to lisaokapi 2012/04/14 22:59:07

Yes doesnt mean anything if their the leaders i have read scriptures and alot of what you say is bull.Thats like me saying hitler was a leader and he wanted to kill all jews so all christians main goal is to kill jews.

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lisaokapi to T4yy1b 2012/04/14 23:42:27

Ha Ha Ok I just state facts. Muslims yelling their beliefs and you still cant face it. If you picked 100 Christian leaders and they were all yelling how all unbelievers needed to be killed then you would be screaming about violent Christians. Point being you wont find that. So it goes to say if you see 100s of muslims yelling that infidels need to be killed and how they will take over the world. If you see them dancing in the streets when they hear about 9/11. Then it isnt BULL!!!!!! Please pull your head out!!

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T4yy1b to lisaokapi 2012/04/19 17:23:25

Ahh because there arent christians that spread hate you need to get your head out of your ass. Ever heard of the westborough baptist church ? The KKK etc I see you dont look into your religion.You have not stated any facts. If you are going to be such a logical person why do you believe jesus is god? He prayed to god theres also many other points that backup my point that jesus isnt gof.

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lisaokapi to T4yy1b 2012/04/19 22:27:09

Do you see hundreds of thousands of Christians taking over countries bombing cars, martyr killings, honor killings, running through the streets bombing places????!?!! NO all the worlds problems are caused by terrorist muslims. You are talking about a few SO CALLED groups that exist of a few weirdos.
Yes Jesus was God. God is omnipotent so he can be in several places at one time that is how he was man on earth and still God in heaven. I know my faith far better than you ever could.

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