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NRA continues to fight for gunrunners

Roger47 2012/06/30 16:39:39
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Even after the border agent was killed in 2010, the NRA continued its fight to defend gunrunners from laws that would make gunrunning a crime.

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  • kir 2012/06/30 16:44:04
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    kir
    +8
    Buddy, it's not the NRA that was giving gunrunners their guns; it was the United States government in an attempt to make the NRA look bad.

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  • KrSpo 2012/07/03 18:08:43
    I support the NRA
    KrSpo
    I support the NRA, but what is THIS topic talking about?
  • truthman 2012/07/01 20:59:49
    I support the NRA
    truthman
    It has nothing to do with the NRA. Fast & Furious was Holders baby and it backfired.
  • Mel the Witch POTL PWCM~JLA 2012/07/01 12:38:22
    I support the NRA
    Mel the Witch POTL PWCM~JLA
    +2
    He we go again, a Brady Bunch, Idiot, who has drank has Koolaid, spewing lies and distortions. First it was your heroes that came up with Fast and Furious. You left tards seem to forget. your bunch trying to enact back door gun control made this nightmare. Now go back a suck Josh Sugarmans .... and tell people an "Assault weapon" (Ban since 1937) have the thing that goes "Up"
  • mwg0735 2012/07/01 09:41:46
  • Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F 2012/07/01 05:25:43
    I support the NRA
    Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F
    +1
    You're a hoot, fella.
  • Schläue~© 2012/07/01 01:26:18
    I support the NRA
    Schläue~©
    +2
    OOPs

    Somebody found an E-Mail.... didn't do their research and wound up getting their butt kicked ................................ again.
  • SemperRick 2012/06/30 23:12:09
    I support the NRA
    SemperRick
    +2
    The NRA has blood on its hands? What NRA are you describing? The NRA DOES NOT support gunrunners and that is a lame blanket statement by somebody who obviously lacks the ability to think in a critical manner. I would be pointing the finger at this outlaw administration and the Attorney General brown noser who thought it would be a terrific idea to put thousands of guns in the hands of drug runners, dealers, assassins and petty drug users. What were these idiots thinking? Oh yeah I forgot, they don't think, they base their decisions by emotions and that everybody is good and we should all sing kumbya in a circle holding hands and smoking weed from a bong or in Obummers case maybe a nice couple of lines of coke with his bruthas. I will never understand the demented mind of a liberal hack.
  • SK-pro impeachment 2012/06/30 22:14:33
    I support the NRA
    SK-pro impeachment
    +3
    Get off the internet, you are stinking it up!!
  • dasimon1 2012/06/30 21:53:45
    I support the NRA
    dasimon1
    +2
    I'm a lifetime member of the NRA.Always for the good of the people!
  • TheCouchF*cker 2012/06/30 21:05:15
  • RobHom 2012/06/30 19:54:45
    I support the NRA
    RobHom
    +3
    The 2d Amendment guarantees the citizens right to own firearms. This right has been affirmed by the courts, including SCOTUS.

    Certain people within the current administration want to see the citizens of this country disarmed and firearms possession made illegal. It is that violation of the 2d Amendment that the NRA is battling. Holder is a lackey for the Brady group and other anti-gun lobbies.
    Holder and the DOJ ran the "Fast & Furious" scam to try and justify laws against the sale and purchase of firearms.

    I would be willing to bet that most criminals south of the border get most of their weapons from international weapons brokers....seeing as how some of the cartels have some rather sophisticated automatic weapons.

    What is most amazing...is that all the gullible twits buy the crap that the anti-gun nuts spread...
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/06/30 17:15:37
    I support the NRA
    jackolantyrn356
    +4
    You Commies are just perfect aint you. Always sitting in a plate of your own excrement. Disarm, disarm you scream and then you arm yourselves to murder those who disagree with you. May God Damn you real good
  • Roger47 jackola... 2012/06/30 18:26:47
    Roger47
    +1
    Mr. Lantern, why do you resort to name calling? Is this the way you debate when you know the facts go against you? This post has nothing to do with disarming anyone. Do you believe that letting anyone buy as many assault weapons at a time as they wish, and resell them to anyone at any time with no tracking, makes our country safer? That ia the way the laws are now.
  • RED DAWN Roger47 2012/07/01 17:30:41
    RED DAWN
    NO one is doing that except holder and his nappy headed friend in the white house.There are laws already on the books that prevent multiple sales of weaponry.
  • Roger47 RED DAWN 2012/07/03 20:45:28
    Roger47
    not true. Arizona, and federal law have no limit.
  • Roger47 2012/06/30 17:14:11
    The NRA has blood on its hands
    Roger47
    +1
    Responding to reports that Mexican drug cartels have bulked up on weapons bought north of the border, House Democrats are pushing legislation aimed at combating the trafficking of U.S—purchased guns to the cartels.

    The bill, called the Stop Gun Trafficking and Strengthen Law Enforcement Act of 2011, would make gun trafficking a crime under a new federal statute.

    Rep. Carolyn Maloney (AP photo)

    Its sponsor, Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., said at a news conference that currently, there is no federal statute that outlaws gun trafficking to criminal organizations. She called for open discussions with the National Rifle Association on passing the measure. The NRA is a staunch opponent of legislation it views as restricting gun owners’ rights under the Second Amendment.
    http://blog.chron.com/txpotom...
  • T A Roger47 2012/07/01 06:31:30 (edited)
    T A
    "Its sponsor, Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., said at a news conference that currently, there is no federal statute that outlaws gun trafficking to criminal organizations. "

    So THAT'S why people sell guns to the government.
  • TuringsChild 2012/06/30 17:13:37
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    TuringsChild
    +4
    You don't shut down American Freedoms as a first resort. Hell you don't shut them down at ALL if you respect the Constitution. If you want to stop gunrunners, try CONTROLLING THE BORDER.
  • Roger47 Turings... 2012/06/30 18:28:09
    Roger47
    +1
    How does it shut down American Freedoms to limit the number of assault weapons that one person can buy at a time?
  • RobHom Roger47 2012/06/30 19:36:54
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    +1
    99% of the weapons listed as so called "assault weapons" are not...

    And Maloney is wrong:

    "In the United States, straw purchases are a felony violation of the Gun Control Act of 1968 for both the straw purchaser (who can also be charged with lying on Federal Form 4473) and the ultimate possessor. "

    "A straw purchase is any purchase where a person purchases a firearm for another person who is not eligible to purchase it. Although it usually refers to the purchase of illegal firearms, the term can refer to almost anything bought or sold illegally."

    You might want to study up on the reality of gun purchase laws:
    http://www.americanfirearms.o...
  • Turings... Roger47 2012/06/30 21:46:52
    TuringsChild
    Ever hear of the Second Amendment?
  • T A Roger47 2012/07/01 06:36:15 (edited)
    T A
    Correct. It limits American freedoms. Telling people what they can buy, in what quantity is a limitation of freedom. However, since they do not own us (that is impossible) and we have not contracted with them to limit us from doing that which we wish, they have no rightful say in what we do, their authority is derived through force, not agreement, and is thus invalid.
  • Rebel Yell 2012/06/30 17:04:42
    The NRA has blood on its hands
    Rebel Yell
    +4
    The NRA is the most powerful lobby in DC, with Big Pharma running a close second. Even bigger than Big Oil, which gets billions in subsidies it doesn't need. The NRA is a very generous donor to several Republican congressmen and a handful of Democrats who depend on the NRA to continue to give generously during their campaigns or they can't stay in office. The NRA says ' Jump !' and they ask ' How high?'

    Gun rights advocates are much more likely to be single-issue voters than those on the other side of the question. As a result, the NRA can reliably deliver votes by keeping fear of gun laws always in the forefront. This they do well. Former NRA leader Wayne LaPierre famously attacked gun control legislation in 1995 as giving “jack-booted government thugs more power to take away our constitutional rights, break in our doors, seize our guns, destroy our property, and even injure or kill us. They promote fear .

    The NRA is a bunch of tools, feeding one conspiracy after another, whipping up fear, and getting the fools to part with their money for more guns, bigger guns, better guns.... more amo... bigger amo... better amo.... repeat. Fear is very profitable.... then along came Eric Holder, and the NRA had no idea just what he might have in his files. So, Holder had to go. Except he didn't. Holder would have never had any problem if the NRA had not put full court press on a very nervous Issa.
  • Turings... Rebel Yell 2012/06/30 17:16:16
    TuringsChild
    +3
    Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.

    I guess that makes Ben Franklin a conspiracy nut tool. :p
  • RobHom Rebel Yell 2012/06/30 19:30:52
    RobHom
    +2
    And Holder is a criminal...who has lied under oath to Congress about Fast & Furious.
  • Mr. T 2012/06/30 16:56:55
  • Roger47 Mr. T 2012/06/30 18:29:26
    Roger47
    +1
    There is no federal law against gunrunning.
  • Odinsown 2012/06/30 16:56:18
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    Odinsown
    +3
    Gunrunning already is a crime. Why do we need more laws about things we have laws for?
  • Roger47 Odinsown 2012/06/30 17:01:24
    Roger47
    +1
    There is no federal law against gunrunning.And the laws that help a bit have been limited by court decisions:
    The ATF's efforts to stop drug cartels from smuggling thousands of firearms into Mexico each year are handcuffed, they say, by a debilitating lack of resources and an absence of statutes to outlaw gun trafficking.

    Without a targeted federal gun trafficking law, prosecutors are forced to rely on other statutes that agents and prosecutors say are difficult to enforce and riddled with loopholes.

    Chief among them: a frequently used law against lying on the ATF’s Form 4473 at a gun shop—especially in claiming the buyer is purchasing for himself, rather than someone else. But court decisions have made this “straw buyer” charge difficult to prove and judges often don’t take it seriously. The issue has been highlighted in recent months by both U.S. Attorneys posted along the border and the Justice Department’s inspector general.

    Current laws also keep the ATF in the dark on sales of assault rifles, the cartels’ weapon of choice. Recent efforts to require that border gun stores immediately report multiple sales of these rifles to ATF—which might create investigative leads—have so far gone nowhere.
    http://www.thecuttingedgenews...
  • Odinsown Roger47 2012/06/30 17:06:04
    Odinsown
    +3
    Is it not illegal to transport firearms in bulk across international borders without government dispensation?
  • Reichstolz 2012/06/30 16:54:57 (edited)
    I support the NRA
    Reichstolz
    +5
    Curtailing gun purchases is one step on the slippery slope. Fast and Furious was nothing more than a means to curtail the second amendment and it is Holder's mission to take that right away from all Americans. With the supreme court ignoring the constitution this past week, I would assume gun sales will once again peak beyond what anyone thought possible. Obama and Holder are the best gun salesman the world has ever known. Keep your nanny state, I'll keep buying guns to protect my God given rights.
    http://www.bing.com/videos/se...
  • Kaimeso 2012/06/30 16:45:39 (edited)
    I support the NRA
    Kaimeso
    +4
    NRA supports legal and responsible ownership of guns. The "gunrunners" you speak of were supported and funded by the BATF using various ILLEGAL processes.

    Scary that some people are so dumb as the believe the government will abide by the law.
  • Roger47 Kaimeso 2012/06/30 17:02:31
    Roger47
    +1
    They were not funded by the ATF. The ATF watched them do exactly what they would have done had the ATF not even been there.
  • Kaimeso Roger47 2012/06/30 19:30:49
    Kaimeso
    +2
    No, the BATF went to the gun shops and told the owners NOT to do any checks, NOT to ask any questions, and NOT to report multiple gun sales to suspect people. The shops that did not want to cooperate by doing something ILLEGAL were threatened. The BATF also enlisted certain Mexicans and provided money to do the ILLEGAL purchases.

    The BATF is a bunch of thugs and loose cannons who believe they can do anything they want without regard to whether it is legal or not. There are essentially slime and no better than the drug cartels in Mexico.
  • JoeBtfsplk Kaimeso 2012/06/30 17:06:45
    JoeBtfsplk
    It's roggy after all - logic/truth challenged - Liberal Progressive symptom.
  • kir 2012/06/30 16:44:04
    I support the NRA
    kir
    +8
    Buddy, it's not the NRA that was giving gunrunners their guns; it was the United States government in an attempt to make the NRA look bad.
  • JoeBtfsplk 2012/06/30 16:42:42
    I support the NRA
    JoeBtfsplk
    +5
    Nice try roger-dodger - It so happens that the gov. wanted to use this specifically to outlaw guns to law abiding citizens.

    When do you get your blame priorities in order roggy?

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