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Now That We Know Obama Will Be The 'Declared' Winner of Tonight's Debate (no matter what) What Will Your Favorite Highlights Be?

heart... Restore The Republic 2008/10/15 21:58:33
It had to be the way he danced around the questions! What moves! He was so smooth!
No, it was definitely his awesomely awesome adequate performance. He's the best!
And how about the way he rewrote evil 'truth', again and again... without batting an eye!
No, no, no. It was the unmitigated arrogance in every breath and glance. He is such a masterful debater!
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And in a related post Obama Gives the media their Talking Points today just to make sure they report them correctly and don't miss any. I wonder what the media would do without his team's invaluable help!?!

Cross posted from: The Drudge Report

OBAMA CAMPAIGN ISSUES TALKING POINTS TO MEDIA AHEAD OF DEBATE
Wed Oct 15 2008 11:13:03 ET

The Obama campaign issued a set of debate 'talking points' to media on Wednesday morning, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

Press Secretary Sean Smith issued the directive in an email from Pennsylvania, 12 hours before the debate.

The memo oddly mirrors much of the main press analysis and theme of the current campaign:

-------- Original Message --------
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:37:27 -0500
From: Sean Smith [s***mith@barackobama.com]
To: Sean Smith [s***mith@barackobama.com]

* This is John McCain's last chance to turn this race around and somehow convince the American people that his erratic response to this economic crisis doesn't disqualify him from being President.

* Just this weekend the weekend, John McCain vowed to "whip Obama's you-know-what" at the debate, and he's indicated that he'll be bringing up Bill Ayers to try to distract voters.

* So we know that Senator McCain will come ready to attack Barack Obama and bring his dishonorable campaign tactics to the debate stage.

* Obama continues to lead on the economic crisis with a rescue plan for Main Street.

* Over the course of the campaign, Barack Obama has laid out a set of policies that will grow our middle class and strengthen our economy.

* But he knows we face an immediate economic emergency that requires urgent action - on top of the plans he's already laid out - to help workers and families and communities struggling right now.

* That's why Barack Obama is introducing a comprehensive four-part Rescue Plan for the Middle Class - to immediately to stabilize our financial system, provide relief to families and communities, and help struggling homeowners.

* This is a plan that can and should be implemented immediately.

* Obama has shown steady leadership during this crisis and offered concrete solutions to move the country forward - and his Rescue Plan for the Middle Class builds on the plans to strengthen the economy and rebuild the middle class that he's laid out over the course of this campaign.

* Already in this campaign, he's unveiled plans to give 95 percent of workers and their families a tax cut, eliminate income taxes for seniors making under $50,000, bring down the cost of health care for families and businesses; and create millions of new jobs by investing in the renewable energy sources.

* John McCain has been erratic and unsteady since this crisis began - staggering from position to position and trying to change the subject away from the economy by launching false character attacks.

END

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashotp.htm



So back to the question at hand...

Now that we know Obama will be the 'declared' winner of tonight's debate (even if he loses badly) what will your favorite highlights be?


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  • Let Freedom Ring 2008/10/17 03:05:16
    Undecided
    Let Freedom Ring
    +1
    I thought he did very poorly against McCain. He stayed on the defense. Stumbled and stammered a lot. I could tell by his body movements and facial expressions that he was Very uncomfortable.
    I thought I'd bust a gut when McCain called him Senator, or Mr. Government! hahaha

    movements facial expressions uncomfortable bust gut mccain senator government hahaha
  • @toninobologny READ b4 VOTI... 2008/10/16 17:10:58
    No, no, no. It was the unmitigated arrogance in every breath and glance. He i...
    @toninobologny READ b4 VOTING #tcot #tpp
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    I'll give him masterful debater, and that is all he is qualified to do.
    What happens to the people who go to wholistic practitioners? What choice do they get?
  • Dale 2008/10/16 03:58:37
    Undecided
    Dale
    +3
    I just want to kinow how to spell sleaze? Is that S-L-E-A-Z-E? If nothing else, no matter if you are on the left or right, that individual is slick. Slicker than the mucus from your nose.
  • silver ... Dale 2008/10/16 11:22:06
    silver eagle
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    OBAMA: "Every dollar that I've proposed, I've proposed an additional cut, so that it matches."

    THE FACTS: The bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that his programs would add $281 billion to the deficit at the end of his first term. The analysis includes Obama's proposals for saving money.

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    McCAIN: "We have to stop sending $700 billion a year to countries that don't like us very much."

    THE FACTS: This is a reference to U.S. spending on oil imports. McCain has repeatedly made this claim. But the figure is highly inflated and misleading. According to government agencies that track energy imports, the United States spent $246 billion in 2007 for all imported crude oil, a majority of it coming from friendly nations including neighboring Canada and Mexico. An additional $82 billion was spent on imported refined petroleum products such as gasoline, diesel and fuel oil. A majority of the refined products come from refineries in such friendly countries as the Netherlands, Canada, the United Kingdom, Trinidad-Tobago and the Virgin Islands.

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    OBAMA: "One hundred percent, John, of your ads — 100 percent of them — have been negative."

    THE FACTS: The statement is true when it comes to McCain's current commercial spots. But by saying McCain's ads "have been" ...



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    OBAMA: "Every dollar that I've proposed, I've proposed an additional cut, so that it matches."

    THE FACTS: The bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that his programs would add $281 billion to the deficit at the end of his first term. The analysis includes Obama's proposals for saving money.

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    McCAIN: "We have to stop sending $700 billion a year to countries that don't like us very much."

    THE FACTS: This is a reference to U.S. spending on oil imports. McCain has repeatedly made this claim. But the figure is highly inflated and misleading. According to government agencies that track energy imports, the United States spent $246 billion in 2007 for all imported crude oil, a majority of it coming from friendly nations including neighboring Canada and Mexico. An additional $82 billion was spent on imported refined petroleum products such as gasoline, diesel and fuel oil. A majority of the refined products come from refineries in such friendly countries as the Netherlands, Canada, the United Kingdom, Trinidad-Tobago and the Virgin Islands.

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    OBAMA: "One hundred percent, John, of your ads — 100 percent of them — have been negative."

    THE FACTS: The statement is true when it comes to McCain's current commercial spots. But by saying McCain's ads "have been" 100 percent negative, Obama ventures into misleading territory. McCain is currently running all negative ads, according to a study by the University of Wisconsin-Madison. But he has run a number of positive ads during the campaign.

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    McCAIN: "Sen. Obama is spending unprecedented amounts of money in negative attack ads on me."

    THE FACTS: Obama is spending unprecedented amounts of money on ads, period — negative or otherwise. Obama is outspending McCain and the Republican Party by more than 2-to-1 in presidential ads. At one point in August, 90 percent of the ads Obama was airing were against McCain. A study conducted at the University of Wisconsin-Madison found that about 34 percent of Obama's ads are now negative.

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    OBAMA: "I want to provide a tax cut for 95 percent of working Americans, 95 percent."

    THE FACTS: Obama constantly says this. But the independent Tax Policy Center says his plan cuts taxes for 81.3 percent of all households in 2009.

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    McCAIN: Said of Obama's running mate Sen. Joe Biden: "He had this cockamamie idea of dividing Iraq into three countries."

    THE FACTS: Biden actually proposed dividing Iraq into three semiautonomous regions, not separate countries. He was a prime sponsor of a nonbinding Senate resolution that called for Iraq to have federal regions under the control of Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis in a power-sharing agreement similar to the one that ended the 1990s war in Bosnia.

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    OBAMA: Said he would be "completely supportive" of late-term abortion restrictions "as long as there's an exception for the mother's health and life."

    THE FACTS: Obama leaves himself a lot of latitude in this answer. A woman's "health" has been so broadly interpreted that it can include conditions, including psychological conditions, that are difficult to diagnose or prove. Anti-abortion advocates say that makes the ban meaningless, because it leaves too much subjective judgment in the equation.

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    MCCAIN: "Sen. Obama, as a member of the Illinois state Senate, voted in the Judiciary Committee against a law that would provide immediate medical attention to a child born in a failed abortion. He voted against that."

    OBAMA: "If it sounds incredible that I would vote to withhold lifesaving treatment from an infant, that's because it's not true."

    THE FACTS: As a state senator, Obama opposed three legislative efforts, in 2001, 2002 and 2003, to give legal protections to any aborted fetus that showed signs of life. The 2003 measure was virtually identical to a bill President Bush signed into law in 2002 — a bill that passed before Obama was in the U.S. Senate, but one that Obama said he would have supported. The state of Illinois already had a law to protect aborted fetuses born alive and considered able to survive. Among those opposed to the state effort was the Illinois State Medical Society, which argued that the bill would interfere with the doctor-patient relationship and expand civil liability for doctors. Critics said the proposed legislation would have undermined the landmark Supreme Court case on abortion, Roe v. Wade, in ways the federal law would not.

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    McCAIN: "Senator Obama talks about voting for budgets. He voted twice for a budget resolution that increases the taxes on individuals making $42,000 a year."

    THE FACTS: The vote was on a nonbinding resolution and did not increase taxes. The resolution assumed that President Bush's tax cuts would expire, as scheduled, in 2011. If that actually happened, it could mean higher taxes for people making as little as about $42,000.

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    OBAMA: "We can cut the average family's premium by $2,500 a year."

    THE FACTS: If that sounds like a straight-ahead promise to lower health insurance premiums, it isn't. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggested cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.

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    MCCAIN: Warned a small business owner that he would be fined under Obama's health care plan if he did not provide health insurance for workers.

    THE FACTS: Obama's health care plan does impose mandates on small business. He would provide small businesses with a refundable tax credit of up to 50 percent on health premiums paid on behalf of their employees. Large as well as medium-sized businesses that do not offer meaningful coverage or contribute to the cost of coverage would be required to pay a percentage of payroll toward the costs of a public insurance plan. But small businesses would be exempt from that requirement.

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    McCAIN: "We can eliminate our dependence on foreign oil by building 45 nuclear power plants right away."

    THE FACTS: For nuclear power to lower oil dependency would require a massive shift to electric or hybrid-electric cars, with nuclear power providing the electricity. No new U.S. nuclear reactor has been built since the 1970s. Although 15 utilities have filed applications to build 24 new reactors, none is expected to be built before 2015 at the earliest. Turmoil in the credit markets could force cancellation of some of the projects now planned, much less spur construction of 45 new reactors, as reactor costs have soared to about $9 billion apiece.
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  • dizzyarkie 2008/10/16 03:45:45
    No, it was definitely his awesomely awesome adequate performance. He's the best!
    dizzyarkie
    Very impressed with Obama, and I sure don't believe that it will be a Socialist Government. awesomely awesome adequate performance impressed obama socialist government
  • heart..... dizzyarkie 2008/10/16 04:23:35 (edited)
    heart... Restore The Republic
    +2
    No offense but, irrefutably, Obama's plan for America is socialist at it's very heart. That is not rumor, lies or spin. It is fact. Historical, political, social and financial... it is socialist. We can ignore it or avoid it but that still won't change it.

    How does Obama's plan 'help' Americans? It doesn't. Not beyond the next government subsidized check; a check that gets you a few tanks of gas, a few bags of groceries and, if you're lucky a few bills paid. Then what?

    Bottom line? These are merely more misdirections and rhetoric from Obama to vulnerable Americans. And I find that unconscionable. Obama IS good at psychological manipulation. He repeats the same words and phrases day in and day out, playing on the desperation and fears of many Americans who are looking into a dark tunnel wondering what will come down the tracks next.

    On the surface tax breaks, stimulus packages and more government assistance sounds like a godsend to Americans that are having trouble affording even the most basic necessities and THAT is what Obama and Democratic 'leaders' are *banking* on. What they do NOT want Americans to know is that those are the very same things that will keep them right where they are... down.

    Beyond the dangerous (socialist) meme of 'fair and equitable' there is the ugly truth about 'we...'

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    No offense but, irrefutably, Obama's plan for America is socialist at it's very heart. That is not rumor, lies or spin. It is fact. Historical, political, social and financial... it is socialist. We can ignore it or avoid it but that still won't change it.

    How does Obama's plan 'help' Americans? It doesn't. Not beyond the next government subsidized check; a check that gets you a few tanks of gas, a few bags of groceries and, if you're lucky a few bills paid. Then what?

    Bottom line? These are merely more misdirections and rhetoric from Obama to vulnerable Americans. And I find that unconscionable. Obama IS good at psychological manipulation. He repeats the same words and phrases day in and day out, playing on the desperation and fears of many Americans who are looking into a dark tunnel wondering what will come down the tracks next.

    On the surface tax breaks, stimulus packages and more government assistance sounds like a godsend to Americans that are having trouble affording even the most basic necessities and THAT is what Obama and Democratic 'leaders' are *banking* on. What they do NOT want Americans to know is that those are the very same things that will keep them right where they are... down.

    Beyond the dangerous (socialist) meme of 'fair and equitable' there is the ugly truth about 'wealth re-distribution'. It simple does not work and creates a welfare state where moving forward and getting ahead become almost impossible. It undermines and even destroys personal incentive to do more or do better for yourself and your family. When government involvement, and more government programs, suppress growth and economic gains then people have far fewer choices and become mired in less... less employment opportunities, fewer new business starts, less growth, less capital and investments to stimulate growth.

    Sadly, more government 'help' simply makes more people dependent on the government, instead of encouraging people to rely on themselves and it severely decreases their ability to reach for the opportunities that America has historically offered to her citizens.

    "Guaranteed equal outcome is socialism." - Cal Thomas

    "The wise and correct course to follow in taxation and in all other economic legislation is not to destroy those who have already secured success, but to create conditions under which everyone will have a better chance to be successful." - Calvin Coolidge
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  • dizzyarkie heart..... 2008/10/16 04:31:32
    dizzyarkie
    I also am not trying to offend you. As you know, we all have opinions of our candidate of choice. I am a wife, mother of 5 children, and even more important, a child of God. I am tired of the economy being in the shape it is in. I am not so naive to believe that prices will always stay the same, but when I go to the grocery store to feed my kids for the month (I am not on welfare of any type) and I pay out 600.00 for groceries that were costing me 400.00. Then I have a problem. Even if I have to work 2 jobs to feed these kids, then that is what I will do. I feel that if McCain is elected into office, then the pockets of the Republicans and anyone who is in a position they are in (oil companies, gas companies, etc.) are going to be thick and full. So what's wrong with Obama trying to help the middle and lower class people, even if it's just long enough or just enough to give us some breathing room.?????
  • heart..... dizzyarkie 2008/10/16 05:13:20
    heart... Restore The Republic
    +2
    Then I would have to say that you are automatically assuming that McCain is Bush and he is not. If you listen to Obama's spin on McCain's record I can understand why you would have that false impression. If you actually look at McCain's record you will see that, more than almost any other Senator *including* Sen. Obama, McCain has worked to cut spending and worked to cut gov't waste; he's worked to stop those pockets being filled. And on that note you might want to examine the record of some top Democrats, including but not limited to Nancy Pelosi. They have done *nothing* to cut back on government spending and can't seem to find a problem they won't throw money at. If you are looking for fiscal responsibility then history, recent and past, will show you plainly that it is NOT the Democrats.
  • bbll26 heart..... 2008/11/08 01:33:15
    bbll26
    Mmmm... somebody doesn't seem to know what "socialism" is. Having studied politics and coming originally from a country that was ruled by a socialist government for 14 years, I feel the need to add my two cents to the debate.
    People can have different opinions, but it would be wise not to throw "big" words out there without knowing what they really mean. I heard Socialism, Marxism, and the best of all... I heard somebody on the radio comparing Obama to Mussolini. It seems obvious to me that whoever uses those words has no political education or knowledge.
    I won't even explain what Marxism is nor will I describe who Mussolini was.
    Socialism: "social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian society"
    Let me give one example: if Obama were a socialist, he would nationalize airlines.
    Socialism is a big word used to scare Americans.
    Obama is more right wing than most European right wings. Socialist European parties are very left of that. So you basically have in order:
    extreme US right wing, US right wing, US left wing, European right wing, European Center, European Left wing, Socialists and at the far end, Communists. In other words.... the US left wing has an extre...'
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    Mmmm... somebody doesn't seem to know what "socialism" is. Having studied politics and coming originally from a country that was ruled by a socialist government for 14 years, I feel the need to add my two cents to the debate.
    People can have different opinions, but it would be wise not to throw "big" words out there without knowing what they really mean. I heard Socialism, Marxism, and the best of all... I heard somebody on the radio comparing Obama to Mussolini. It seems obvious to me that whoever uses those words has no political education or knowledge.
    I won't even explain what Marxism is nor will I describe who Mussolini was.
    Socialism: "social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian society"
    Let me give one example: if Obama were a socialist, he would nationalize airlines.
    Socialism is a big word used to scare Americans.
    Obama is more right wing than most European right wings. Socialist European parties are very left of that. So you basically have in order:
    extreme US right wing, US right wing, US left wing, European right wing, European Center, European Left wing, Socialists and at the far end, Communists. In other words.... the US left wing has an extremely long way to go before getting even close to being socialist. That's why historically, the European right wings are close to the US left wings.
    Does socialism "destroy those who have already secured success"? No, it doesn't. As previously mentionned I used to live under a socialist government (which I never voted for as I don't share their ideas). Does it reduce the gap between the very rich and the very poor? Yes. Do you lose some incentive to become very successful? probably. That's one of the reasons I never voted socialist in my home country.
    You can disagree with Obama opinions and views, but calling him a socialist is only making you look ignorant. He is advocating for a fairer society. Isn't it shocking that some CEOs make 2200 more than some of their employees? Do they have more responsabilities? Absolutely. Should they be paid more? Yes. But 2200 times more when some people work two jobs to make ends meet? And that's the point on which we can disagree. I believe in rewarding people for their work. I also believe in the idea of a fair society (which doesn't mean a society where we all make the same amount of money).
    I voted for Obama. I'm among the people who will see their taxes go up since I make more than $250K a year. But I will be happy to pay to contribute to a better society.
    One more thing...? Would you call Palin a socialist? Of course not! However she's the one who has acted the most like a socialist (and I surely don't believe she is one) with her tax redistribution policy in Alaska (it went up to $3200 per person, her family received $19614 because of how many kids she has).
    It would be nice if people could discuss their political views without using lies or big words as scare tactics.
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  • Saintsfan 2008/10/16 03:41:12
    Undecided
    Saintsfan
    +1
    Definitely, "If you wanted to run against George Bush you should have run 4 years ago".
  • Yoda 2008/10/16 02:32:01
    Undecided
    Yoda
    +2
    I was particularly impressed with McCain verbal slip up to refering to Obama as "Senator Government", that was a classic. Could very well be the biggest truth spoken tonight.
  • Saintsfan Yoda 2008/10/16 03:42:31
    Saintsfan
    +1
    I agree that was a good one, very accidental, but very apropos.
  • Southern Man 2008/10/16 00:52:49
    Undecided
    Southern Man
    +2
    lmao you ment to say obama is the undecided lmao ment obama masterbater
  • deano 2008/10/16 00:10:41
    Undecided
    deano
    +1
    Will not watch it!!! Have some important business to take care of,havent any of you learned these debates accomplish nothing. Poor American still want to believe in the process.If it makes you feel better then enjoy it.
  • Yoda deano 2008/10/16 03:21:02
    Yoda
    +1
    Whoa deano; Thank you for reminding me of how "inferior" I am. (not sure why you took the time to post this but whatever?)
  • deano Yoda 2008/10/16 03:39:25
    deano
    Good Lord i didnt mean to make anyone feel inferior. Just forget it,not worth getting upset over.Hope you enjoyed it and i am sure i will see all the highlights. Chill!
  • Yoda deano 2008/10/16 03:41:21
    Yoda
    +1
    Okey doke deano:
  • deano Yoda 2008/10/16 03:51:50
    deano
    +1
    have a good night.
  • Yoda deano 2008/10/16 03:55:29
    Yoda
    +1
    You too deano;
  • Bill - McGee - 2012 "I am a... 2008/10/15 23:50:53
    Undecided
    Bill - McGee - 2012 "I am a Terrorist "
    +2
    My favorite "highlight" will be if McCain opens up a can of truth on Barry's ass...

    undecided highlight mccain opens truth barrys ass
  • heart..... Bill - ... 2008/10/16 01:07:02
    heart... Restore The Republic
    +1
    He can't do much thanks to the media lies about him going negative; he especially can't go to Ayers, Acorn etc. Obama set him up with that childish school yard dare yesterday. So, now more than ever, he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
  • Bill - ... heart..... 2008/10/16 01:54:49
    Bill - McGee - 2012 "I am a Terrorist "
    +1
    well at least it has hit the MSM that McCain's supporters are telling him to take the gloves off.. that's an improvement... maybe that message alone will spark some thought in the undecided folks...
  • heart..... Bill - ... 2008/10/16 03:03:44 (edited)
    heart... Restore The Republic
    +1
    CNN is f*cking amazing. Their focus group had 14 registered Democrats, 7 Republicans and 11 Independents. Biased much? Asshats. They agreed it was Obama's worst debate then (some/many) commentators said he won.WTF? Are they idiots or do they just think America is?

    Oh now they say their after-debate poll was made up of 40% Dems and only 30% Republicans and, again, they expected true results? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
  • Bill - ... heart..... 2008/10/16 11:49:53
    Bill - McGee - 2012 "I am a Terrorist "
    hahaha go figure huh?
  • upthecreek 2008/10/15 23:34:52
    Undecided
    upthecreek
    +1
    Right now the end of it .
  • upthecreek upthecreek 2008/10/16 01:43:47
    upthecreek
    +2
    Oh my did you hear John he actually started putting Obama on the Defence in this Debate.
  • heart..... upthecreek 2008/10/16 03:07:27
    heart... Restore The Republic
    And MSM... even though they admitted McCain stayed on offense and Obama on defenses, still cannot give McCain credit for doing a good job. F'ing amazing.
  • perks-a real PATRIOT 2008/10/15 23:32:50
    Undecided
    perks-a real PATRIOT
    +6
    Wake up America, the media is stealing our country and handing it to a socialist.
  • heart..... perks-a... 2008/10/16 01:13:39
    heart... Restore The Republic
    +3
    Damn damn straight!

    damn damn straight
  • Bill - ... heart..... 2008/10/16 01:57:12
    Bill - McGee - 2012 "I am a Terrorist "
    +1
    once the "for Obama" is added to that, the term "journalists" becomes meaningless though.
  • heart..... Bill - ... 2008/10/16 03:09:18
    heart... Restore The Republic
    +1
    Exactly. I found that at a site called thepeoplescube.com. Totally awesome and irreverent graphics. And totally anti-Obama!!!
  • Bill - ... heart..... 2008/10/16 11:52:10
    Bill - McGee - 2012 "I am a Terrorist "
    yeah they got some humor there, but it's served up with allot of truth too.
  • cutiegran perks-a... 2008/12/04 14:47:16
    cutiegran
    +2
    Boy did you hit that nail on the head!!! What would the media be doing if McCain refused to show his birth certificate? If Obama is legal, then what is the problem of showing his birth certificate? Of course as corrupt as he is,even if it were shown, how do the American public know it wasn't forged?
  • Roberto-Pro-America-Anti Obama 2008/10/15 23:27:23
    It had to be the way he danced around the questions! What moves! He was so sm...
    Roberto-Pro-America-Anti Obama
    +4
    I hope McCain comes across strong.
  • heart..... Roberto... 2008/10/16 01:14:29
    heart... Restore The Republic
    +3
    Ten minutes in and I am pleasantly surprised! McCain hitting him on 'spreading the wealth'!!!
  • Bill - ... heart..... 2008/10/16 01:55:35
    Bill - McGee - 2012 "I am a Terrorist "
    +1
    please keep us updated.. i'm unable to watch it here...
  • heart..... Bill - ... 2008/10/16 03:10:15
    heart... Restore The Republic
    +1
    Right now I could spit nails at the coverage and 'analysis' CNN is giving. Assholes.
  • silver eagle 2008/10/15 22:24:21
    And how about the way he rewrote evil 'truth', again and again... without bat...
    silver eagle
  • silver ... silver ... 2008/10/15 22:33:43
    silver eagle
    +3
    Barack Obama Caught Lying -

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